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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 8:40:22 GMT
and dare I say that it was better than the first?
I mean the first one for me was such a surprise hit as I knew absolutely nothing about any of these characters. I mean a talking racoon and a giant tree that only says I am Groot? It all seemed so dumb to me. However it was those trailers and the songs that they used that really got me into the theater to see that movie. I loved that movie but after watching GOTGv2 part of me is thinking that maybe I liked GOTG so much was because of just how much of a surprise it was for me. I had no expectations going into the movie like I do with Spider-Man or X-Men where I tend to critique a bit too harshly because they're my favorite characters. With GOTG I had no issue with that so what I was given was all fresh and I loved how they embraced the idiocy of the concept and I grew to love some of these characters like Peter, Gamora, Rocket, and Groot. (Drax is hit or miss for me)
This 2nd film I felt honestly had a better story but it lacked in humor. Now I am fine with that as these films don't need to be stacked with puns and jokes constantly. The things I did funny were Baby Groot, Star-Lord's Pac Man scene, and as much as I didn't expect to like it I did actually enjoy the Drax and Mantis relationship. The clips they show don't do that justice at all.
I also feel like the 2nd film had more heart to it. It really brought you in on the whole family aspect of it and I believe that it all came around full circle with how these characters now are relating to one another. Peter with Ego and Yondu, Rocket with Yondu and everybody, Gamora with Nebula and Peter, Drax with Mantis. Groot well he's still Groot but they really get you with the family aspect of it and I got to say the ending scene really had me. It was great even though it was very foreshadowed earlier in the film.
What else did 2 do better than 1? Ego was such a much more compelling villain than Ronin was. Now I'm not entirely sure of WHY exactly he wanted to kill everybody outside of him being disappointed in living beings. I also am not sure why he did what he did to Peter's mom as I don't think he had the chance to explain that further before Peter got pissed off. But he was just so much more engaging of a villain to me and I think a lot of that has to go with the fact that this was Kurt Russell playing him and not some actor I never heard of covered in blue pant that was really boring. This film had no infinity stone drama just a good story about a man finding out who his real father is only to have to fight him in order to save his friends and his REAL family. Also the ending action/fight scene was levels beyond the ending of 1 where they just hold hands and such.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 8, 2017 11:03:53 GMT
and dare I say that it was better than the first? I mean the first one for me was such a surprise hit as I knew absolutely nothing about any of these characters. I mean a talking racoon and a giant tree that only says I am Groot? It all seemed so dumb to me. However it was those trailers and the songs that they used that really got me into the theater to see that movie. I loved that movie but after watching GOTGv2 part of me is thinking that maybe I liked GOTG so much was because of just how much of a surprise it was for me. I had no expectations going into the movie like I do with Spider-Man or X-Men where I tend to critique a bit too harshly because they're my favorite characters. With GOTG I had no issue with that so what I was given was all fresh and I loved how they embraced the idiocy of the concept and I grew to love some of these characters like Peter, Gamora, Rocket, and Groot. (Drax is hit or miss for me) This 2nd film I felt honestly had a better story but it lacked in humor. Now I am fine with that as these films don't need to be stacked with puns and jokes constantly. The things I did funny were Baby Groot, Star-Lord's Pac Man scene, and as much as I didn't expect to like it I did actually enjoy the Drax and Mantis relationship. The clips they show don't do that justice at all. I also feel like the 2nd film had more heart to it. It really brought you in on the whole family aspect of it and I believe that it all came around full circle with how these characters now are relating to one another. Peter with Ego and Yondu, Rocket with Yondu and everybody, Gamora with Nebula and Peter, Drax with Mantis. Groot well he's still Groot but they really get you with the family aspect of it and I got to say the ending scene really had me. It was great even though it was very foreshadowed earlier in the film. What else did 2 do better than 1? Ego was such a much more compelling villain than Ronin was. Now I'm not entirely sure of WHY exactly he wanted to kill everybody outside of him being disappointed in living beings. I also am not sure why he did what he did to Peter's mom as I don't think he had the chance to explain that further before Peter got pissed off. But he was just so much more engaging of a villain to me and I think a lot of that has to go with the fact that this was Kurt Russell playing him and not some actor I never heard of covered in blue pant that was really boring. This film had no infinity stone drama just a good story about a man finding out who his real father is only to have to fight him in order to save his friends and his REAL family. Also the ending action/fight scene was levels beyond the ending of 1 where they just hold hands and such. I am so glad to hear you appreciated the direction they took. It was a little bold to go character development over action, but it was the right move and I loved it.
As a fan of the comics, I have to say I still loved the first film as well as this one. They are very true to the source in tone and aesthetic.
I will say the endings to both are fantastic to me. I know you look at the first one as just holding hands, but when Gamora reaches out to him with the flashbacks to his mother, that is some powerful stuff. It is one of the very best scenes in the entire MCU if you ask me, although I agree, I do love the ending to GOTG2 very much as well.
And I also agree that I am curious to know more about Ego and his Mom's relationship, but from what I can tell, it's all about Ego's ego. He thinks he knows what it's like to care and love, but in the end, he only really wants what's good for him. That's the moral of the movie is that people with this kind of ego, can't see what their actions cause to others because they truly only value themselves. So in the end he killed her in a way that he didn't have to be there to watch it happen so that he didn't have to suffer watching it, but ultimately because he didn't want an excuse to see her again. It was that petty.
And the way they integrated Mantis, Nebula, and Yondu, while maintaining who they were as characters was spectacular. I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed the Drax/Mantis stuff. It was hilarious because they're both socially awkward as fuck, lol. "You're beautiful,,, on the inside".
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Post by Peter B. Parker on Aug 8, 2017 19:46:50 GMT
and dare I say that it was better than the first? I mean the first one for me was such a surprise hit as I knew absolutely nothing about any of these characters. I mean a talking racoon and a giant tree that only says I am Groot? It all seemed so dumb to me. However it was those trailers and the songs that they used that really got me into the theater to see that movie. I loved that movie but after watching GOTGv2 part of me is thinking that maybe I liked GOTG so much was because of just how much of a surprise it was for me. I had no expectations going into the movie like I do with Spider-Man or X-Men where I tend to critique a bit too harshly because they're my favorite characters. With GOTG I had no issue with that so what I was given was all fresh and I loved how they embraced the idiocy of the concept and I grew to love some of these characters like Peter, Gamora, Rocket, and Groot. (Drax is hit or miss for me) This 2nd film I felt honestly had a better story but it lacked in humor. Now I am fine with that as these films don't need to be stacked with puns and jokes constantly. The things I did funny were Baby Groot, Star-Lord's Pac Man scene, and as much as I didn't expect to like it I did actually enjoy the Drax and Mantis relationship. The clips they show don't do that justice at all. I also feel like the 2nd film had more heart to it. It really brought you in on the whole family aspect of it and I believe that it all came around full circle with how these characters now are relating to one another. Peter with Ego and Yondu, Rocket with Yondu and everybody, Gamora with Nebula and Peter, Drax with Mantis. Groot well he's still Groot but they really get you with the family aspect of it and I got to say the ending scene really had me. It was great even though it was very foreshadowed earlier in the film. What else did 2 do better than 1? Ego was such a much more compelling villain than Ronin was. Now I'm not entirely sure of WHY exactly he wanted to kill everybody outside of him being disappointed in living beings. I also am not sure why he did what he did to Peter's mom as I don't think he had the chance to explain that further before Peter got pissed off. But he was just so much more engaging of a villain to me and I think a lot of that has to go with the fact that this was Kurt Russell playing him and not some actor I never heard of covered in blue pant that was really boring. This film had no infinity stone drama just a good story about a man finding out who his real father is only to have to fight him in order to save his friends and his REAL family. Also the ending action/fight scene was levels beyond the ending of 1 where they just hold hands and such. I agree with this. Marvel are taking back the villains. |
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Aug 8, 2017 21:07:56 GMT
i liked it too but i think it was a fair notch below the first one. the humor wasn't as sharp and, despite being a bit weirder, it wasn't as subversive. i do like the climax a lot more than Vol 1's, though, which i think they just barely landed.
i'm tempted to change my avatar to hyperspace Rocket now it's out.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 8, 2017 21:51:28 GMT
i liked it too but i think it was a fair notch below the first one. the humor wasn't as sharp and, despite being a bit weirder, it wasn't as subversive. i do like the climax a lot more than Vol 1's, though, which i think they just barely landed. i'm tempted to change my avatar to hyperspace Rocket now it's out. It's interesting to me when people don't like the climax of Vol 1, a scene that I find to be one of the very best in the entire MCU. Him reaching out to his mother almost brings me to tears. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Aug 8, 2017 22:38:20 GMT
I thought this was worse than tbe first film,it feels even more like a kids movie
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 22:56:02 GMT
i liked it too but i think it was a fair notch below the first one. the humor wasn't as sharp and, despite being a bit weirder, it wasn't as subversive. i do like the climax a lot more than Vol 1's, though, which i think they just barely landed. i'm tempted to change my avatar to hyperspace Rocket now it's out. It's interesting to me when people don't like the climax of Vol 1, a scene that I find to be one of the very best in the entire MCU. Him reaching out to his mother almost brings me to tears. For me it's like cutting it down to it's basic premise that friendship and hand holding defeats the villain and it's VERY cheesy, much like a My Little Pony or something. It's a lot like the Martha thing in BvS. We all understand what it was doing but that doesn't make it less dumb. The only thing is GOTG was a good movie before that so many of us, myself included can over look such a thing while BvS was not so it's just one of the things people really remember as one of the worst parts of a bad movie. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 8, 2017 22:57:48 GMT
It's interesting to me when people don't like the climax of Vol 1, a scene that I find to be one of the very best in the entire MCU. Him reaching out to his mother almost brings me to tears. For me it's like cutting it down to it's basic premise that friendship and hand holding defeats the villain and it's VERY cheesy, much like a My Little Pony or something. It's a lot like the Martha thing in BvS. We all understand what it was doing but that doesn't make it less dumb. The only thing is GOTG was a good movie before that so many of us, myself included can over look such a thing while BvS was not so it's just one of the things people really remember as one of the worst parts of a bad movie. That's very oddly interesting. They were sharing the power of the gem and yes symbolic of unity, but how you got my little pony out of it I have no idea. I don't see anything remotely dumb about it. It was epic and awesome if you ask me, and have no need to overlook it. I embrace that seen. It's one of my favorites. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 23:00:53 GMT
For me it's like cutting it down to it's basic premise that friendship and hand holding defeats the villain and it's VERY cheesy, much like a My Little Pony or something. It's a lot like the Martha thing in BvS. We all understand what it was doing but that doesn't make it less dumb. The only thing is GOTG was a good movie before that so many of us, myself included can over look such a thing while BvS was not so it's just one of the things people really remember as one of the worst parts of a bad movie. That's very oddly interesting. They were sharing the power of the gem and yes symbolic of unity, but how you got my little pony out of it I have no idea. "Friendship is magic" I'm pretty sure is My Little Ponies catch phrase or whatever. As I said when you break it down to it's basic premise friendship defeats the villain, hence friendship is magic. It was very cheesy but it's fine because the movie before that was good. Had the movie sucked I'd of likely remembered that part in particular as one of it's worst much like I do with the Martha scene in BvS. |
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Post by politicidal on Aug 8, 2017 23:03:16 GMT
I still like the first one better. I actually thought Vol. 2 tried too hard to be funny but when it decided to go dark, it was really jarring. On the one hand, relationships between some characters were fleshed out better and on the other, the script does wander.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 8, 2017 23:57:52 GMT
That's very oddly interesting. They were sharing the power of the gem and yes symbolic of unity, but how you got my little pony out of it I have no idea. "Friendship is magic" I'm pretty sure is My Little Ponies catch phrase or whatever. As I said when you break it down to it's basic premise friendship defeats the villain, hence friendship is magic. It was very cheesy but it's fine because the movie before that was good. Had the movie sucked I'd of likely remembered that part in particular as one of it's worst much like I do with the Martha scene in BvS. I get the way you're looking at it to get there, I just don't know why that's the way you're looking at it. It was an awesome scene from the perspective of the power gem nearly tearing him apart when he sacraficed himself to get it away from Ronan and his friends then having to help him. I don't see how that's anything less than epic. It was graphic and awesome. And it wasn't close to the Martha scene. The Martha scene was a structural writing problem by which the twist of the movie hinged. The Guardians scene had no such issues. I truthfully don't know why you look at it that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 1:03:04 GMT
"Friendship is magic" I'm pretty sure is My Little Ponies catch phrase or whatever. As I said when you break it down to it's basic premise friendship defeats the villain, hence friendship is magic. It was very cheesy but it's fine because the movie before that was good. Had the movie sucked I'd of likely remembered that part in particular as one of it's worst much like I do with the Martha scene in BvS. I get the way you're looking at it to get there, I just don't know why that's the way you're looking at it. It was an awesome scene from the perspective of the power gem nearly tearing him apart when he sacraficed himself to get it away from Ronan and his friends then having to help him. I don't see how that's anything less than epic. It was graphic and awesome. And it wasn't close to the Martha scene. The Martha scene was a structural writing problem by which the twist of the movie hinged. The Guardians scene had no such issues. I truthfully don't know why you look at it that way. Because that's how I see it. I disagree in regards to that scene simple as that. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 9, 2017 1:30:51 GMT
I get the way you're looking at it to get there, I just don't know why that's the way you're looking at it. It was an awesome scene from the perspective of the power gem nearly tearing him apart when he sacraficed himself to get it away from Ronan and his friends then having to help him. I don't see how that's anything less than epic. It was graphic and awesome. And it wasn't close to the Martha scene. The Martha scene was a structural writing problem by which the twist of the movie hinged. The Guardians scene had no such issues. I truthfully don't know why you look at it that way. Because that's how I see it. I disagree in regards to that scene simple as that. I understand, it's just a shame because it's so much more powerful than the way you're looking at it. |
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