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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 13, 2017 20:47:25 GMT
.......there are four men who died in the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012 because of your vote, and their blood is on your hands. You executed them with your vote. And by what logic is this statement based? It's a new "progressive" kind of logic. It's Cinemachinery logic.  |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 13, 2017 21:37:23 GMT
.......there are four men who died in the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012 because of your vote, and their blood is on your hands. That and a crappy healthcare model. True enough. My vote led to that outcome.  Of course, if Obama's campaign rhetoric played into mishandling our own foreign affairs as a key draw for his voters, I'd have to own even more. But I'm more than willing to own that the guy I voted for bungled it. Adulthood. Owning your the fruits of your vote. Try it. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Aug 13, 2017 22:32:35 GMT
.......there are four men who died in the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012 because of your vote, and their blood is on your hands. That and a crappy healthcare model. True enough. My vote led to that outcome. Of course, if Obama's campaign rhetoric played into mishandling our own foreign affairs as a key draw for his voters, I'd have to own even more. But I'm more than willing to own that the guy I voted for bungled it. Adulthood. Owning your the fruits of your vote. Try it. You're still denying it though. Obama didn't "bungle" foreign policy. He was a pro-war establishment politician who pretended to be something else. You're not only sticking up for his supposed good intentions, but you're also trying to play down the severity of it (in the most inept way possible comparing Obama's actions to Trump's rhetoric). But this isn't something to own anyway. The alternative was McCain. Your influence isn't significant enough to carry that weight you poor victim. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 13, 2017 22:36:49 GMT
Sorry dude, you never nut up enough to follow up responses. No point.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 13, 2017 22:42:38 GMT
.......there are four men who died in the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012 because of your vote, and their blood is on your hands. That and a crappy healthcare model. True enough. My vote led to that outcome. Of course, if Obama's campaign rhetoric played into mishandling our own foreign affairs as a key draw for his voters, I'd have to own even more. But I'm more than willing to own that the guy I voted for bungled it. Adulthood. Owning your the fruits of your vote. Try it. If adulthood amounts to making the best choice available at the time, I've already tried it, several times. In the pre-WWII years Romania was given the choice to side with Hitler's Germany or Stalin's USSR. They chose the side that eventually lost, but at the time it seemed like the best choice of the two. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 22:44:03 GMT
.......there are four men who died in the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012 because of your vote, and their blood is on your hands. You executed them with your vote. Arguably, sure it is. But four men didn't die in the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, because of votes cast for Barack Obama in 2008. So the point is really moot. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 13, 2017 22:51:16 GMT
.......there are four men who died in the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012 because of your vote, and their blood is on your hands. You executed them with your vote. Arguably, sure it is. But four men didn't die in the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, because of votes cast for Barack Obama in 2008. So the point is really moot. It happened on his watch, like Charlottesville happened on Trump's watch. Did not Obama support the overthrow of Qaddafi? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 13, 2017 22:53:37 GMT
Sorry dude, you never nut up enough to follow up responses. No point. That Cinespeak for, "I can't fault what you said." |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 13, 2017 22:59:48 GMT
That and a crappy healthcare model. True enough. My vote led to that outcome. Of course, if Obama's campaign rhetoric played into mishandling our own foreign affairs as a key draw for his voters, I'd have to own even more. But I'm more than willing to own that the guy I voted for bungled it. Adulthood. Owning your the fruits of your vote. Try it. If adulthood amounts to... "If if if".  Owning the fruits of the rhetoric your candidate employed. "They used to get hurt for this." I know, man, I know - the whole KKK and WN endorsement and the rallies are all just coincidence. Crazy chance! |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 13, 2017 23:01:36 GMT
Sorry dude, you never nut up enough to follow up responses. No point. That Cinespeak for... "Never addresses a response". Like I just said. Check his posting history. When Fantasy Cinemachinery whispers to you, does his breath smell of bacon and beer? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 23:06:10 GMT
Arguably, sure it is. But four men didn't die in the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, because of votes cast for Barack Obama in 2008. So the point is really moot. It happened on his watch, like Charlottesville happened on Trump's watch. Indeed. And that doesn't mean that it happened because of him. Yes. And? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 13, 2017 23:22:23 GMT
Okay, if the mess in Benghazi didn't happen because of Obama, the mess in Charlottesville yesterday didn't happen because of Trump either. He didn't make it, and he shouldn't be held accountable for it.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 14, 2017 1:01:06 GMT
It happened on his watch, like Charlottesville happened on Trump's watch. Indeed. And that doesn't mean that it happened because of him. Having one of your own voter block drive a car into protesters after you yourself told them how they "used to get hurt" for protesting and how they "just so bad for our country, folks", is a leeeeetle bit more than "on his watch". I've seen greased pig contests less slick that Erjen trying to wiggle away from the results of his vote. Not indirect occurrences "on his watch" - I'm happy to lay the bungles that occur under Obama's administration at his feet. Those are "on his watch". This event was "on Trump's message" - and that message was delivered publicly, loud and clear, before his election. No use playing pretend now. Poor guy is acting like he couldn't hear the dog whistles WHILE dudes are marching around chanting "Heil Trump". I bet all these marches are just Soros-funded crisis events to make poor Trump look bad!  That sounds Yewtube worthy. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 14, 2017 1:07:43 GMT
Indeed. And that doesn't mean that it happened because of him. Having one of your own voter block drive a car into protesters after you yourself told them how they "used to get hurt" for protesting and how they "just so bad for our country, folks", is a leeeeetle bit more than "on his watch". I've seen greased pig contests less slick that Erjen trying to wiggle away from the results of his vote. Not indirect occurrences "on his watch" - I'm happy to lay the bungles that occur under Obama's administration at his feet. Those are "on his watch". This event was "on Trump's message" - and that message was delivered publicly, loud and clear, before his election. No use playing pretend now. Poor guy is acting like he couldn't hear the dog whistles WHILE dudes are marching around chanting "Heil Trump". I bet all these marches are just Soros-funded crisis events to make poor Trump look bad! That sounds Yewtube worthy. If you've got a case to make against anyone, perhaps you should make it in court.  |
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Aug 14, 2017 1:49:37 GMT
Having one of your own voter block drive a car into protesters after you yourself told them how they "used to get hurt" for protesting and how they "just so bad for our country, folks", is a leeeeetle bit more than "on his watch". I've seen greased pig contests less slick that Erjen trying to wiggle away from the results of his vote. Not indirect occurrences "on his watch" - I'm happy to lay the bungles that occur under Obama's administration at his feet. Those are "on his watch". This event was "on Trump's message" - and that message was delivered publicly, loud and clear, before his election. No use playing pretend now. Poor guy is acting like he couldn't hear the dog whistles WHILE dudes are marching around chanting "Heil Trump". I bet all these marches are just Soros-funded crisis events to make poor Trump look bad! That sounds Yewtube worthy. If you've got a case to make against anyone, perhaps you should make it in court. ^Erjen-speak for "I just got caught, once again, having no clue what I'm talking about so it's time to deflect." |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 14, 2017 1:51:37 GMT
If you've got a case to make against anyone, perhaps you should make it in court. ^Erjen-speak for "I just got caught, once again, having no clue what I'm talking about so it's time to deflect." ^ Thought police. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 14, 2017 1:56:46 GMT
If you've got a case to make against anyone, perhaps you should make it in court. ^Erjen-speak for "I just got caught, once again, having no clue what I'm talking about so it's time to deflect." ^ Cash hates it when Erjen uses Cine's "logic" against him. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 10:55:21 GMT
Indeed. And that doesn't mean that it happened because of him. Having one of your own voter block drive a car into protesters after you yourself told them how they "used to get hurt" for protesting and how they "just so bad for our country, folks", is a leeeeetle bit more than "on his watch". I've seen greased pig contests less slick that Erjen trying to wiggle away from the results of his vote. Not indirect occurrences "on his watch" - I'm happy to lay the bungles that occur under Obama's administration at his feet. Those are "on his watch". This event was "on Trump's message" - and that message was delivered publicly, loud and clear, before his election. No use playing pretend now. Poor guy is acting like he couldn't hear the dog whistles WHILE dudes are marching around chanting "Heil Trump". I bet all these marches are just Soros-funded crisis events to make poor Trump look bad! That sounds Yewtube worthy. Not to mention how many times Trump directly called for violence against people who protested against him. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 14, 2017 16:41:37 GMT
^Erjen-speak for "I just got caught, once again, having no clue what I'm talking about so it's time to deflect." ^ Cash hates it when Erjen uses Cine's "logic" against him. "I'll just ignore the entire thread and pretend it worked out the way I hoped!" I owned it, Daisy! You weren't man enough to do the same. Hell, even your VOTE got blamed on Hillary. "Ah had no IDEA he appealed to white nationalists!" Link more Pepe vids, bruv. Sell it. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 14, 2017 16:52:22 GMT
Having one of your own voter block drive a car into protesters after you yourself told them how they "used to get hurt" for protesting and how they "just so bad for our country, folks", is a leeeeetle bit more than "on his watch". I've seen greased pig contests less slick that Erjen trying to wiggle away from the results of his vote. Not indirect occurrences "on his watch" - I'm happy to lay the bungles that occur under Obama's administration at his feet. Those are "on his watch". This event was "on Trump's message" - and that message was delivered publicly, loud and clear, before his election. No use playing pretend now. Poor guy is acting like he couldn't hear the dog whistles WHILE dudes are marching around chanting "Heil Trump". I bet all these marches are just Soros-funded crisis events to make poor Trump look bad! That sounds Yewtube worthy. Not to mention how many times Trump directly called for violence against people who protested against him. Erjen missed all that, I tell you! How could he have known? Dudes got an eye sharp enough to spot a Romulan cloaking device and be the sole 'Baman to catch the moon jumping off course, but damned if he didn't miss a whole year's worth of election speeches of his own candidate. |
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