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Post by darkpast on Aug 17, 2017 5:15:32 GMT
it had good reviews and the end to a successful trilogy Sequelitis in the US Looked Too Much Like Dawn Too dour, depressing Trump factor It was never good Other reasons Americans are stupid
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 17, 2017 16:15:14 GMT
Even though the previous movie did very well at the box office it turned out to be quite forgettable and people weren't that excited for the sequel. But I think the biggest reason is just over-saturation of entertainment options. People have more choices and are carefully choosing which movies to see in theaters and which ones to wait and see later.
The movie is a moderate box office success in total global receipts.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 17, 2017 16:19:22 GMT
The marketing could have played a role too. It really made the film seem like this gargantuan action packed war epic when from what I heard, it's something more slower paced and not so action heavy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 20:23:10 GMT
Whilst I enjoyed it, the trailers implied that this would, finally, be the one with an actual war between apes and humans... and that doesn't happen. I can see why that would generate bad word of mouth.
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Post by skribb on Aug 17, 2017 20:54:51 GMT
The marketing could have played a role too. It really made the film seem like this gargantuan action packed war epic when from what I heard, it's something more slower paced and not so action heavy. ... And that marketing resulted in "Looked Too Much Like Dawn" syndrome
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Post by politicidal on Aug 17, 2017 21:42:31 GMT
The marketing could have played a role too. It really made the film seem like this gargantuan action packed war epic when from what I heard, it's something more slower paced and not so action heavy. ... And that marketing resulted in "Looked Too Much Like Dawn" syndrome Did people really hate Dawn that much? I loved it. Only now hearing of any complaints outside of the usual "eh not my thing".
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Post by bluerisk on Aug 17, 2017 21:50:05 GMT
it had good reviews and the end to a successful trilogy Sequelitis in the US Looked Too Much Like Dawn Too dour, depressing Trump factor It was never good Other reasons Americans are stupid It is still not plausible why the Apes have even a chance to win. The original didn't even try to explain it...only the sequels mess up with it. In this case maybe an independent nation had been the better choice. Also a big let down: both sides are run or push by highly agressive zero-brains. At least in the last installment and thus I'm not bothering to watch this one...when it comes out as DVD.
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Post by skribb on Aug 17, 2017 22:31:10 GMT
... And that marketing resulted in "Looked Too Much Like Dawn" syndrome Did people really hate Dawn that much? I loved it. Only now hearing of any complaints outside of the usual "eh not my thing". Oh that's not at all what I meant. I just personally looked at the War trailers and felt that I've already seen it before, not that it was bad in itself. I mean I still watched it cos I love the story (seen all the apes movies) so I was happy that it wasn't like Dawn (still not completely happy with it, but at least it was different than the previous movie)
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 18, 2017 5:25:59 GMT
Even though I liked the first 2, it was more respecting them than purely enjoying them if you will.
This third I was expecting & hoping for a definitive capper to a trilogy. Now word is there'll be more, which I have zero anticipation for & will likely never watch. Instead, War came out with little fanfare & mild exposure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 22:33:51 GMT
It is still not plausible why the Apes have even a chance to win. The original didn't even try to explain it...only the sequels mess up with it. Actually this movie does explain it pretty well. The disease that wiped out most humans has mutated and is spreading again through the survivors - and the mutated form robs them of their ability to speak and, possibly, of most of their IQ. Organised human resistance is pretty much done for, without the apes lifting a finger.
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Post by bluerisk on Aug 18, 2017 22:54:01 GMT
It is still not plausible why the Apes have even a chance to win. The original didn't even try to explain it...only the sequels mess up with it. Actually this movie does explain it pretty well. The disease that wiped out most humans has mutated and is spreading again through the survivors - and the mutated form robs them of their ability to speak and, possibly, of most of their IQ. Organised human resistance is pretty much done for, without the apes lifting a finger. Sorry, but this is lazy writing.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 18, 2017 23:41:38 GMT
Actually this movie does explain it pretty well. The disease that wiped out most humans has mutated and is spreading again through the survivors - and the mutated form robs them of their ability to speak and, possibly, of most of their IQ. Organised human resistance is pretty much done for, without the apes lifting a finger. Sorry, but this is lazy writing. Probably thrown in case it under-performed or something and they couldn't go into more detail in part 4.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 0:33:05 GMT
Sorry, but this is lazy writing. How so? It's long been said by the producers of the movies that their aim is to have their films finish in such a way that Charlton Heston could arrive in the Icarus and find the world exactly as he did in the original movie. Given the state of humans in Heston's movie, something like that makes perfect sense.
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Post by President Ackbarâ„¢ on Aug 19, 2017 1:07:00 GMT
Sorry, but this is lazy writing. How so? It's long been said by the producers of the movies that their aim is to have their films finish in such a way that Charlton Heston could arrive in the Icarus and find the world exactly as he did in the original movie. Given the state of humans in Heston's movie, something like that makes perfect sense. Agreed, and it was pretty cool that the went so far as to set up the Apes out in the desert, not too far from the AO mountain with "more weapons inside", matching the setting of the original two films. ( yes, I do know they were set in New York, and not San Francisco )
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 1:11:52 GMT
How so? It's long been said by the producers of the movies that their aim is to have their films finish in such a way that Charlton Heston could arrive in the Icarus and find the world exactly as he did in the original movie. Given the state of humans in Heston's movie, something like that makes perfect sense. Agreed, and it was pretty cool that the went so far as to set up the Apes out in the desert, not too far from the AO mountain with "more weapons inside", matching the setting of the original two films. ( yes, I do know they were set in New York, and not San Francisco ) Yeah, a long journey across a desert - exactly like the desert the Icarus crew crossed to reach the Ape city.
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Post by bluerisk on Aug 19, 2017 1:24:33 GMT
Sorry, but this is lazy writing. How so? It's long been said by the producers of the movies that their aim is to have their films finish in such a way that Charlton Heston could arrive in the Icarus and find the world exactly as he did in the original movie. Given the state of humans in Heston's movie, something like that makes perfect sense. Because biology does not work this way. It's ok if you like this explanation but for me it is not. And in the Heston movie it was explained in a different way. A virus killed our traditional pets, we adoptes apes who grew smarter and smarter. And then the hint of a nuclear war. If you take the other movie into account, then there has never been a virus that infected the humans but the apes rose into a rebellion. And at any point there had been smart and technological sophisticated humans. And to lose the language you do not need to be mutated or degenerated by a virus. If you grow up without learning a language, you will, after the age of four, never be able to fully aquire one. And without a language you will never be able to overcome the stage of a pre-school child.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 19, 2017 23:26:31 GMT
The original 5 movies did a better job of world building than than this trilogy did.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 20, 2017 2:52:58 GMT
A great trilogy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 2:55:32 GMT
probably the marketing. From the trailers it looks like a epic war story but with the social media we have today, I'm sure word spread fast that it was a slow burn character story.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 5, 2017 5:21:07 GMT
While a solid film, intelligent for its genre, the previous one proved this would just be apes in the woods... from a title Planet of the Apes... we're hanging out with apes in a small part of a forest.
I wanted a greater macro scale & payoffs. Still a decent trilogy (I will not be watching a 4th installment*), above average for this era.
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