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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 17:41:56 GMT
Goyer isn't right to handle ANY superhero. He doesn't read comics and he hates, hates, HATES the fandom.
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Post by srb3 on Mar 23, 2017 18:27:59 GMT
Goyer isn't right to handle ANY superhero. He doesn't read comics and he hates, hates, HATES the fandom. He read and loved 300 and Watchmen, which is why he got those. Agreed with your other points.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 18:31:49 GMT
Goyer isn't right to handle ANY superhero. He doesn't read comics and he hates, hates, HATES the fandom. He read and loved 300 and Watchmen, which is why he got those. Agreed with your other points. Oh, he's of the Gritty Era fandom. That explains a lot.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 23, 2017 23:18:59 GMT
What I don't get is how WB and DC gave Snyder the job the helm the DCEU?
I mean, it's not like he had proved himself by making an epic trilogy like Nolan did with TDK or making a massive bulldozer hit like Whedon with the Avengers or turning an existing hero from kind-lame to ultra badass like the Russo brothers did with Cap in TWS.
Snyder made MOS which was luke-warm at best and then he's given the captain's chair for the rest of these movies? Well, what did DC expect to happen?
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Post by srb3 on Mar 23, 2017 23:21:56 GMT
What I don't get is how WB and DC gave Snyder the job the helm the DCEU? I mean, it's not like he had proved himself by making an epic trilogy like Nolan did with TDK or making a massive bulldozer hit like Whedon with the Avengers or turning an existing hero from kind-lame to ultra badass like the Russo brothers did with Cap in TWS. Snyder made MOS which was luke-warm at best and then he's given the captain's chair for the rest of these movies? Well, what did DC expect to happen? WB gave it Nolan, who gave it to Goyer and Snyder. The WB knew they were wrong but went along with those guys anyways.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 23, 2017 23:45:46 GMT
What I don't get is how WB and DC gave Snyder the job the helm the DCEU? I mean, it's not like he had proved himself by making an epic trilogy like Nolan did with TDK or making a massive bulldozer hit like Whedon with the Avengers or turning an existing hero from kind-lame to ultra badass like the Russo brothers did with Cap in TWS. Snyder made MOS which was luke-warm at best and then he's given the captain's chair for the rest of these movies? Well, what did DC expect to happen? as srb3 said Nolan and Goyer came to WB with the script, WB picked it up and had a list of directors who either turned it down or Nolan or WB weren't content with, eventually Nolan and WB went with Snyder. so you have to blame both WB and Nolan. and remember, Nolan, the Russos, Whedon, Reed, Derrickson, Burton, etc. don't come from massive scale films, I mean Nolan's film before Batman Begins was Insomnia, a very small Alaskan thriller, Russos were on Community, Reed....Yes Man?, Derrickson Sinister, Burton Beetlejuice.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 23, 2017 23:54:56 GMT
What I don't get is how WB and DC gave Snyder the job the helm the DCEU? I mean, it's not like he had proved himself by making an epic trilogy like Nolan did with TDK or making a massive bulldozer hit like Whedon with the Avengers or turning an existing hero from kind-lame to ultra badass like the Russo brothers did with Cap in TWS. Snyder made MOS which was luke-warm at best and then he's given the captain's chair for the rest of these movies? Well, what did DC expect to happen? as srb3 said Nolan and Goyer came to WB with the script, WB picked it up and had a list of directors who either turned it down or Nolan or WB weren't content with, eventually Nolan and WB went with Snyder. so you have to blame both WB and Nolan. and remember, Nolan, the Russos, Whedon, Reed, Derrickson, Burton, etc. don't come from massive scale films, I mean Nolan's film before Batman Begins was Insomnia, a very small Alaskan thriller, Russos were on Community, Reed....Yes Man?, Derrickson Sinister, Burton Beetlejuice. Well I don't really care about their previous films (much). My point was, Nolan had proved himself to DC with his TDK trilogy. Whedon had proved himself to MCU with Avengers. The Russo's proved themselves to MCU with TWS. So MCU giving Whedon power over phase 2 made sense. MCU giving the Russos Infinity Wars and Civil War makes sense. DC asking Nolan to start their DCEU made sense. But giving Snyder all control over the DCEU films after he made MOS? Considering how MOS performed? That didn't make sense. But I guess your explanation about them giving it to Nolan and Nolan then propping up Snyder kinda makes sense. Still, it was a dumb decision by the studio to trust in a director that hasn't proven himself in their territory yet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 1:53:53 GMT
After the controversy Man of Steel caused on top of under-performing at the box office, they were fools to let Snyder direct the BvS, which only served to under-perform...again, and further divided the fanbase. If they had fixed things IMMEDIATELY after Man of Steel, and even used as an in-story way of making Superman want to be better at being a superhero, I could have forgiven it. But nope, back to Snyder they went, and instead Superman seems to have regressed to an even more immature state, if anything. WFT.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 24, 2017 13:24:44 GMT
I think Nolan didn't really wanna be bothered with any more comic book movies. He did Batman to fund his other projects. So he just passed it off to Snyder.
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Post by srb3 on Mar 24, 2017 19:15:26 GMT
I think Nolan didn't really wanna be bothered with any more comic book movies. He did Batman to fund his other projects. So he just passed it off to Snyder. Correct.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 2:17:18 GMT
Oh, Archie, you rascal, you!
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Post by northernlad on May 23, 2018 15:53:09 GMT
What I don't get is how WB and DC gave Snyder the job the helm the DCEU? I mean, it's not like he had proved himself by making an epic trilogy like Nolan did with TDK or making a massive bulldozer hit like Whedon with the Avengers or turning an existing hero from kind-lame to ultra badass like the Russo brothers did with Cap in TWS. Snyder made MOS which was luke-warm at best and then he's given the captain's chair for the rest of these movies? Well, what did DC expect to happen? I'm kind of confused by that myself. I liked MOS but even I can see that it wasn't well received. So why in the hell did they trust this guy with the rest of these characters? He clearly didn't do something right in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 17:32:54 GMT
Goyer isn't right to handle ANY superhero. He doesn't read comics and he hates, hates, HATES the fandom. But he did do a great job writing Batman Begins... Raptor? Are you there...? .... Raptor?!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 23, 2018 17:37:23 GMT
Goyer isn't right to handle ANY superhero. He doesn't read comics and he hates, hates, HATES the fandom. But he did do a great job writing Batman Begins... Raptor? Are you there...? .... Raptor?! RAPTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1234
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 20:25:14 GMT
But he did do a great job writing Batman Begins... Raptor? Are you there...? .... Raptor?! RAPTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1234 RAPTOOOOORRRRRR!!!!!!!!!567891011
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