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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 23, 2017 12:34:49 GMT
Not with Madam Gao still around, and we can be almost certain more information about them when Iron Fist goes back to Kun Lun. So no, they aren't done. Gao is likely dead. Are you just trolling at this point?
There is every reason to think she's alive. We know Daredevil got out, almost certainly Elektra did as well, and we didn't see Gao die who was basically right beside them.
And more to the point, it would actually be fun to see her lead Davos perhaps in a tournament of immortal weapons like in the comics, or to get some backstory on other cities the Hand has destroyed in the past in their quest for dragon (blood?)
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Post by scabab on Aug 23, 2017 19:09:19 GMT
I finished the series now, it was good. It wasn't great though, I wouldn't go as far as to I was disappointed but maybe it was a little underwhelming.
It lacked the excitement of seeing the Avengers come together.
The villains weren't so great. The action wasn't bad. Iron Fist was improved.
Most of the other characters like Foggy, Malcolm, Trish, Karen were pretty useless and were only there to be there for the most part.
Ending was kinda weak and sudden.
Really I think the lack of budget kinda hurts something like this. With this involving the Defenders coming together to have their final battle with The Hand who have been around since Daredevil Season 1 then the whole thing should have been on a bigger scale than it was.
It was also a little slow here and there.
Definitely nowhere near as good as either Daredevil series. Much better than Iron Fist. Bit better than Luke Cage probably. About on par with Jessica Jones but with better action and an inferior story and villians.
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Post by agentblue on Aug 23, 2017 20:07:32 GMT
Are you just trolling at this point?
There is every reason to think she's alive. We know Daredevil got out, almost certainly Elektra did as well, and we didn't see Gao die who was basically right beside them.
And more to the point, it would actually be fun to see her lead Davos perhaps in a tournament of immortal weapons like in the comics, or to get some backstory on other cities the Hand has destroyed in the past in their quest for dragon (blood?)
Shes a goner.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 23, 2017 20:37:27 GMT
Are you just trolling at this point?
There is every reason to think she's alive. We know Daredevil got out, almost certainly Elektra did as well, and we didn't see Gao die who was basically right beside them.
And more to the point, it would actually be fun to see her lead Davos perhaps in a tournament of immortal weapons like in the comics, or to get some backstory on other cities the Hand has destroyed in the past in their quest for dragon (blood?)
Shes a goner. Not that we know of. I guess keep saying it though.
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Post by agentblue on Aug 23, 2017 23:33:36 GMT
Not that we know of. I guess keep saying it though. Shes a goner.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 24, 2017 0:16:43 GMT
Not that we know of. I guess keep saying it though. Shes a goner. Ok dude, good talk
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 25, 2017 14:54:33 GMT
I finally finished the series last night and I completely agree with the OP. It was great. The story, the interaction of the characters, the action, and the villains all came together perfectly.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 25, 2017 15:18:13 GMT
I finished the series now, it was good. It wasn't great though, I wouldn't go as far as to I was disappointed but maybe it was a little underwhelming. It lacked the excitement of seeing the Avengers come together.
The villains weren't so great. The action wasn't bad. Iron Fist was improved. Most of the other characters like Foggy, Malcolm, Trish, Karen were pretty useless and were only there to be there for the most part.Ending was kinda weak and sudden.Really I think the lack of budget kinda hurts something like this. With this involving the Defenders coming together to have their final battle with The Hand who have been around since Daredevil Season 1 then the whole thing should have been on a bigger scale than it was.
It was also a little slow here and there. Definitely nowhere near as good as either Daredevil series. Much better than Iron Fist. Bit better than Luke Cage probably. About on par with Jessica Jones but with better action and an inferior story and villians. It wasn't trying to be The Avengers. Judge it for what it is. If the side characters weren't there people would complain about that. The ending was awesome. This is the street level under the radar story of the Marvel Universe. It was the perfect scale. If it was anything larger people would be asking "where were the Avengers?" and they would be right.
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Post by detour on Aug 25, 2017 15:31:43 GMT
I loved the first season of DD, really liked the second season and the first (only?) season of Jessica Jones. Underwhelming reviews and responses have held me back from watching Luke Cage, Iron Fist and the Defenders (and I love these characters).
Sounds like I need to just get down to it and binge away, the critical/fan response is too divided. But, really, isn't that always the case with this type of material?
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Post by Hitman's Bodyguard on Aug 25, 2017 17:59:59 GMT
Does everyone know, when Luke Cage will be released on Blu-Ray?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 25, 2017 18:02:36 GMT
Yeah I pretty much disagree with your entire initial post. The last couple episodes of the season I felt were good but getting there was just so boring because I have no real reason to care about any of these characters. The Alexandra character didn't really mesh with me and nor does The Hand. I just don't give a crap about their plan or any of their characters so pretty much I wasn't invested in the story that the show was telling me. Elektra being this killing machine I enjoyed just was bored completely by the story around it. In regards to The Defenders themselves, wow I now understand why a bunch of people hated on Iron Fist. That was awful and the fact that the story was very centered around him was not something for me to be interested. I skipped his show because nothing about it seemed appealing to me and none of The Defenders changed my mind into going back and watching it. He's just such a lame character in here and none of his scenes captured my interest it was just so, lack of a better word, boring. I honestly am surprised I managed to finish the show. Luke Cage I seemed to have an issue with. Does the show know how his powers work or not? Because this show had me all sorts of confused. When Luke and Danny first met Danny was fighting him and Luke was no selling all of his moves until Danny used his super fist. Later in the show Luke is having issues with The Hand while they're kicking and chopping and what not as if it's all the sudden now hurting him. Also, he's fire proof now or something? Where did that come from? His skin is bullet proof but what he can't catch on fire either? I also felt like there needed to be more stakes to it to really bring them all together instead of just hey, Claire happens to know all these guys and I just didn't feel like they really had a great reason to come together and be a unit. To me the stakes never really hit until the last couple episodes with the deaths of Stick, Alexandra, and Misty getting her arm chopped off. Before that to me it just felt bleak and not what was going to catch my interest as "brilliant" as you put it. I just get the feeling like this would of been a perfect time for Claire to have bitten it because she was put in danger that she should never have been put in. There for it leads to The Defenders joining together in order to make sure no more innocent lives get taken by The Hand. Something to that affect because what they did do didn't work for me. I also hated how the whole ending was just swept under the rug because, reasons. Yeah Foggy works for some powerful lawyers that's enough to just ignore the fact that these super powered people and Claire of all people blow up a massive building and kill people inside. Nope but don't worry because they're the heroes here we're just going to make sure there are no repercussions right away. I actually enjoyed the conflict they were having with the police force and now that's all just seemingly ignored. Screw that crap. I would of liked it a hell of a lot more had they been arrested and they broke out and became like an A-Team type of deal. Continue this conflict with the police don't just sweep it under the rug. Have Misty still be a bit of an ally to them but have it indeed cost her her job or have her feel conflicted on whether or not she feels she needs to arrest these people if she see's them in the future shows which I'm sure she will. One more thing, I HATED that they needed to confirm and show everybody that Matt was still alive. I liked that ending so much that it now feels tainted because they blew that load too quickly. I didn't want to know that he was still alive. Let me think that he's actually dead and make a story about it going into the next Daredevil season and then show us he's not still dead. I mean yeah them doing another season of Daredevil tells you that he's not dead but this show didn't need to confirm that to me. It would of been a far better and more satisfying ending had we the viewers been left to believe he died alongside Elektra because I personally felt that was the most emotionally impactful part of the entire series was him and Elektra fighting and how Elektra is now making sure that they'll be together forever in death. It was very well done only for them to screw that up in my mind. It would of just been more satisfying in my mind if that was truly the end of those two characters. Matt, Jessica, and Elektra were pretty much the only real highlights for me character wise. Getting there was the best part. All of the character interactions were spot on exactly what they needed to be, and the whole hate Iron Fist thing is sort of amusing to me, because that is his character right now. He's supposed to be that and we're going to see his character grow, which I'm legit looking forward to.
The ending teasing Daredevil's future was awesome to me. You realize they were talking about his mother right? Didn't screw up the Elektra thing at all if you ask me and adds to it in regards to what her motivation is now. She really rides that bad/good line, and I think they've done a great take on her.
More stakes to bring them together? That was the whole point in the first few episodes, building up little stories to how they meet and Claire had very little to do with it. Of course she was going to make one introduction, why wouldn't she? The rest all met by other circumstances, Jessica's case leading to Hogarth leading to Foggy leading to Matt, Matt leading to the hole in the ground, Jessica's case leading to the company that built on it, Danny's tracking of the Hand leading to that building. It was awesome.
You seem to not be into the best parts of the show, which I mean ok. But they were done well.
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Post by scabab on Aug 25, 2017 19:36:33 GMT
I finished the series now, it was good. It wasn't great though, I wouldn't go as far as to I was disappointed but maybe it was a little underwhelming. It lacked the excitement of seeing the Avengers come together.
The villains weren't so great. The action wasn't bad. Iron Fist was improved. Most of the other characters like Foggy, Malcolm, Trish, Karen were pretty useless and were only there to be there for the most part.Ending was kinda weak and sudden.Really I think the lack of budget kinda hurts something like this. With this involving the Defenders coming together to have their final battle with The Hand who have been around since Daredevil Season 1 then the whole thing should have been on a bigger scale than it was.
It was also a little slow here and there. Definitely nowhere near as good as either Daredevil series. Much better than Iron Fist. Bit better than Luke Cage probably. About on par with Jessica Jones but with better action and an inferior story and villians. It wasn't trying to be The Avengers. Judge it for what it is. If the side characters weren't there people would complain about that. The ending was awesome. This is the street level under the radar story of the Marvel Universe. It was the perfect scale. If it was anything larger people would be asking "where were the Avengers?" and they would be right. I don't mean it like that. There was an excitement in finally seeing the four Avengers members from each movie finally coming together. That should have been the same with this but it wasn't. The side characters had to be involved of course but they didn't really do much of anything except for Colleen Wing and Misty. Otherwise they spent most the series in a police station. As for the scale, it doesn't have to be Avengers big but it should have been bigger than it was. It didn't seem on a particularly bigger scale than what Kingpin achieved in the first season of Daredevil. It could have been bigger and had a bigger impact on the city without being as considerable as the Chitari invasion.
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Post by agentblue on Aug 25, 2017 23:26:31 GMT
Does everyone know, when Luke Cage will be released on Blu-Ray? Nobody buys Bluray anymore.
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Post by Hitman's Bodyguard on Aug 26, 2017 11:38:07 GMT
Say's who?
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Post by agentblue on Aug 26, 2017 17:07:09 GMT
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Post by King Conan on Aug 26, 2017 17:23:48 GMT
This is bullshit. A lot of people still buy Blu-Rays.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 26, 2017 18:49:51 GMT
A lot of people still buy DVDs and Blu-Rays. However, Netflix is very sporadic with releasing their shows on DVD/Blu-Ray. They released Daredevil season 1 but I think that is all for the MCU so far. I don't know if we will ever see the rest of the Marvel shows on disc.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 26, 2017 19:59:07 GMT
A lot of people still buy DVDs and Blu-Rays. However, Netflix is very sporadic with releasing their shows on DVD/Blu-Ray. They released Daredevil season 1 but I think that is all for the MCU so far. I don't know if we will ever see the rest of the Marvel shows on disc. I saw Jessica Jones on DVD in Best Buy yesterday.
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Post by Hitman's Bodyguard on Aug 26, 2017 20:39:24 GMT
A lot of people still buy DVDs and Blu-Rays. However, Netflix is very sporadic with releasing their shows on DVD/Blu-Ray. They released Daredevil season 1 but I think that is all for the MCU so far. I don't know if we will ever see the rest of the Marvel shows on disc. Daredevil Season 2, and Jessica Jones were released on Blu-Ray/DVD too. At least here in germany.
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Post by agentblue on Aug 27, 2017 2:02:09 GMT
This is bullshit. A lot of people still buy Blu-Rays. Sure
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