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Post by novastar6 on Aug 21, 2017 5:05:14 GMT
I really don't get people like that. Granted, I used to be the same way, when I was a teenager, everything's a big deal at that age about proving how mature you are, adults are supposed to know better. I can't help feel sorry for them though, they let their pride cheat them out of a lot of great books, and not just all fiction, at my library in juvenile nonfiction there are books about the history of crime forensics, unsolved murders, etc., stuff you'd never see anybody making for kids today.
I'm very curious though if there's anybody here who fits into this category and if so, can you explain the reasoning behind your position?
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Post by dougb on Aug 21, 2017 11:12:59 GMT
I'm in my mid 50's and don't read children's books. I tried the Harry Potter stories but wasn't impressed and I have more than enough books on the go at any one time so why would I read a book aimed at a very young audience?
Your question seems very odd.
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 21, 2017 12:45:29 GMT
so why would I read a book aimed at a very young audience? Because some of them are simply a hell of a great book, no matter your age. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 21, 2017 13:04:33 GMT
I mostly read nonfiction, but when it comes to fiction, I read at least as much kids/juvenile fiction now as I read anything else. It's more playfully imaginative than most adult fiction, and that's ideally what I want from fiction.
It's interesting reading it as an adult, because you catch all of the adult content you weren't or wouldn't have been aware of as a kid.
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Post by dougb on Aug 21, 2017 13:34:32 GMT
so why would I read a book aimed at a very young audience? Because some of them are simply a hell of a great book, no matter your age. Quite possibly, but it would take me more than my lifetime to read all the books I want to already. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 16:14:59 GMT
I don`t care what people read.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 19:47:45 GMT
Have you read Therese Raquin yet? Ulysses? Middlemarch? In search of lost time?
If not then put the fucking kids' books down.
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 22, 2017 21:13:57 GMT
Have you read Therese Raquin yet? What 'yet'? I never heard of it to begin with. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 22, 2017 21:18:08 GMT
Have you read Therese Raquin yet? Ulysses? Middlemarch? In search of lost time? If not then put the fucking kids' books down. Need a short read because of time or memory restrictions ? Pick up a "kids book". Maybe one you missed as a kid. I had never read The Secret Garden. It was on a book exchange shelf at the airport. What a good book I almost missed. novastar6 nice thread  |
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 22, 2017 21:26:41 GMT
Have you read Therese Raquin yet? Ulysses? Middlemarch? In search of lost time? If not then put the fucking kids' books down. Need a short read because of time or memory restrictions ? Pick up a "kids book". Maybe one you missed as a kid. I had never read The Secret Garden. It was on a book exchange shelf at the airport. What a good book I almost missed. novastar6 nice thread I've never read that one, there are a lot, a lot of classic children's books that I've never read. And most of the ones I have read, I never read until I was a late teen or even an adult, the Oz Books, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Matilda, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (and the Great Glass Elevator), A Wrinkle in Time, The Westing Game, Old Yeller, Bridge to Terabithia, The Indian in the Cupboard, The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus, The Halloween Tree (even though it was never meant to be a children's book, unfortunately that's how it's always going to be classified), Stuart Little, Charlotte's Web, you name it, most of them I never read until I was many years older than the average reader of them is. And several on my to-read list: The Secret Garden, 101 Dalmatians, The Little Princess, Little Lord Fauntleroy, The Chronicles of Narnia, The Rescuers, Anna of Green Gables, The Chronicles of Prydain (which became Disney's movie The Black Cauldron), James and the Giant Peach, Heidi, The Jungle Book, etc. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 22, 2017 21:35:05 GMT
When I was a kid, I was "an early reader" and seem to have skipped many of "the kid's classics."
Have gradually filled in many of the gaps.
I read the first three Oz books recently and wish that I had not. It would have been better to keep thinking of them as "timeless gems". I have most of the rest of them but may only look at the illustrations (if that).
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 22, 2017 21:43:57 GMT
I love the Oz books. During the first one it took some getting used to how different it was from the movie, but what I really loved about the series is that it establishes Oz as real, it doesn't take the movie's copout of 'it was just a dream', I hate when they do that. And that's why I really liked the 6th book, The Emerald City of Oz, where Aunt Em and Uncle Henry realize Dorothy was telling the truth about Oz all along.
The Tin Woodman of Oz is a big creepy because it doesn't just go into how his tin body replaced his human body, but what happened to his original body (or part of it anyway), that goes a bit against the grain of how saccharine sweet the rest of the stories are but they're all very amusing.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 22, 2017 21:59:29 GMT
novastar6All that "washing" and killing anything that moved turned me away from Oz. I had to force myself to try the third one and then gave up on them. Too many other kids books await and a few "grow-ed up" ones too.
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Post by darknessfish on Aug 26, 2017 19:08:25 GMT
Have you read Therese Raquin yet? What 'yet'? I never heard of it to begin with. You really should, it's by Emile Zola, and it's a bloody good read. I don't know if you've ever seen Park Chan Wook's superb film Thirst, but Therese Raquin provides the basis for that. Park somehow added a vampire priest into the tale without ruining it. Anyway, as to the original question, no I don't read children's books/young adult books, things like that. Well, I read some of them to my son (who's 9), but that's for his enjoyment and a bit of bedtime routine, I don't get much out of the actual books. I mean, they're written in a style that feels quite simplistic and condescending to an adult who has read a lot of books. There's a lot of books out there on all subjects for adults, I don't really getr why I'd pick a children's novel for the same info. Although, while writing this I just remembered that The Adventures of Tom Sawyer was aimed at older children, but I guess we can make an exemption for Mark Twain, because he was a genius. |
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 27, 2017 1:31:26 GMT
What 'yet'? I never heard of it to begin with. You really should, it's by Emile Zola, and it's a bloody good read. I don't know if you've ever seen Park Chan Wook's superb film Thirst, but Therese Raquin provides the basis for that. Park somehow added a vampire priest into the tale without ruining it. Anyway, as to the original question, no I don't read children's books/young adult books, things like that. Well, I read some of them to my son (who's 9), but that's for his enjoyment and a bit of bedtime routine, I don't get much out of the actual books. I mean, they're written in a style that feels quite simplistic and condescending to an adult who has read a lot of books. There's a lot of books out there on all subjects for adults, I don't really getr why I'd pick a children's novel for the same info. Although, while writing this I just remembered that The Adventures of Tom Sawyer was aimed at older children, but I guess we can make an exemption for Mark Twain, because he was a genius. Did you ever read The Halloween Tree by Ray Bradbury? |
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Post by darknessfish on Aug 28, 2017 20:25:35 GMT
You really should, it's by Emile Zola, and it's a bloody good read. I don't know if you've ever seen Park Chan Wook's superb film Thirst, but Therese Raquin provides the basis for that. Park somehow added a vampire priest into the tale without ruining it. Anyway, as to the original question, no I don't read children's books/young adult books, things like that. Well, I read some of them to my son (who's 9), but that's for his enjoyment and a bit of bedtime routine, I don't get much out of the actual books. I mean, they're written in a style that feels quite simplistic and condescending to an adult who has read a lot of books. There's a lot of books out there on all subjects for adults, I don't really getr why I'd pick a children's novel for the same info. Although, while writing this I just remembered that The Adventures of Tom Sawyer was aimed at older children, but I guess we can make an exemption for Mark Twain, because he was a genius. Did you ever read The Halloween Tree by Ray Bradbury? Nope. Strangely, I've never read any Ray Bradbury, and I consumed sci-fi like nothing else when I was in my late teens. |
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 28, 2017 23:24:26 GMT
Did you ever read The Halloween Tree by Ray Bradbury? Nope. Strangely, I've never read any Ray Bradbury, and I consumed sci-fi like nothing else when I was in my late teens. I highly recommend it, especially since we're going into fall. Now he didn't write that as a children's book, he wrote it to be a Halloween classic that everybody would know, but the publishers thought it was better suited for kids so it never took off like it should've. And even today over 40 years later it's still labeled, sold, and categorized as a children's book, and it's always going to be regarded as one. So anybody who doesn't know that fact doesn't know that it was written for adults to read, and if they judge it just on 'it's a kids book', does that make sense for them to never read it, but they would if it was right across on the adult shelf instead? |
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 30, 2017 22:49:48 GMT
Have you read Therese Raquin yet? Ulysses? Middlemarch? In search of lost time? If not then put the fucking kids' books down. Were you having a bad day or something, Painbow? That's quite a thing to say to people who haven't offended you in any way. For your knowledge, I've read all of them (and, if you're going to insist on not being childish, have you read À la recherche du temps perdu in the original French? I have), and I see no reason why I should have picked them up as opposed to Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn, The Secret Garden, any of E. Nesbit's books, any of Ellen Raskin's books, anything by Lewis or Tolkien ( The Hobbit, as I'm sure you know, was originally written as a children's story), any of Wilde's children's tales, anything by John Masefield or George McDonald or... I could go on. I advise you to read Walter de la Mare's musings on this subject, or at least C.S. Lewis's wonderful quotation on the matter: |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 23:06:26 GMT
Have you read Therese Raquin yet? Ulysses? Middlemarch? In search of lost time? If not then put the fucking kids' books down. Were you having a bad day or something, Painbow? That's quite a thing to say to people who haven't offended you in any way. For your knowledge, I've read all of them (and, if you're going to insist on not being childish, have you read À la recherche du temps perdu in the original French? I have), and I see know reason why I should have picked them up as opposed to Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn, The Secret Garden, any of E. Nesbit's books, any of Ellen Raskin's books, anything by Lewis or Tolkien ( The Hobbit, as I'm sure you know, was originally written as a children's story), any of Wilde's children's tales, anything by John Masefield or George McDonald or... I could go on. I advise you to read Walter de la Mare's musings on this subject, or at least C.S. Lewis's wonderful quotation on the matter: If you see know reason, then you weren't looking hard enough. May I recommend Os Lusíadas in the original Klingon. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 30, 2017 23:11:10 GMT
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Typo, dear boy. We all make them. Corrected, as you so deeply care about my typographical accuracy.
Hm, I suppose that's supposed to be some kind of criticism? If so, may I suggest clarifying your arguments in the future?
Grow up. It'll help you a great deal.
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