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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 19:06:41 GMT
I know it's probably a bit to early, but are there any predictions for the season 8 episode titles. Someone on Thedragonandthewolf ( www.thedradonandthewolf.com/, also spread the leaks of season 7) predicts: 8.1: The Forsaken 8.2: The Crannogmen 8.3: Blood of the Dragon 8.4: The Long Night 8.5: War for the Dawn 8.6: A Dream of Spring I really like all those titles but I really want to see 'A Time for Wolves' (the original title for book 7 'A Dream of Spring') and 'A Song of Ice and Fire'
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Post by kevin on Aug 28, 2017 4:33:15 GMT
Has anyone seen the finale already?
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Post by kevin on Aug 28, 2017 6:28:44 GMT
Yes, yes, yes! This is exactly what I wanted from Game of Thrones. I didn't bother me that much during the season, but during this episode I realized how much I missed the slower, more poetic, pacing of Game of Thrones. This episode felt right in every single way. I really hope the final season will also be able to keep this slower pacing, even during the final action scenes, because this is what makes Game of Thrones amazing. The dialogue was great and finally Peter Dinklage can show his acting skills once more. He didn't have much to do last season, but that one scene with Cerei reminds me why he's one of my favorite characters. And he isn't the only Lannister who had a big moment this episode. After 7 seasons Jaime finally realizes how crazy Cersei is and the scene between Jaime and Cersei is equally incredible as the one with Tyrion. Baelish was one of the best characters on the show, but he went out in the perfect way. After years of plotting Littlefinger is finally exposed as the murderer and traitor he is and, even though it didn;t look like that halway during of the season, the North seems to be more united now than ever after the death of Littlefinger.
And then those final minutes, wow! One of my favorite moments of the entire series: Samwell & Bran discussing Jon's heritage (we see Rhaegar!), Jon & Daenerys making love on the boat and the Night King destroying the wall. I had chills when Bran said 'He's the heir to the iron throne'. It's my favorite ending sequence/scene of a GoT season so far. It's all happening and I can't wait for season 8. I don't know how I'll survive another year or maybe even more without Game of Thrones (I'll probably just rewatch it). My favorite finale is The Winds of Winter (btw that's also my favorite episode of the show so far), but 'The Dragon and the Wolf' is still one of my favorite Game of Thrones episode and I also think my favorite episode of the season. Yes, the dragon battle in episode 4 was unbelievably amazing, but this episode is why I love Game of Thrones. So no question a 10/10.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 28, 2017 12:23:18 GMT
Overall a great episode, but a few things that bothered me: What's the point of Cersei's betrayal? They were already prepared to fight in the north as their first priority whether they had Lannister troops or not. She gains nothing from this ruse. It was done purely to give Jaime the final push to leave her side, and it's the least disturbing thing she's ever done. So that was weak. Also, does anyone care what happens to Yara? That entire plot is going to be filler for the final season and nobody cares about the Greyjoys at this point (if they ever did).
But as always it was fun to see familiar faces come together again, and I'm guessing Bronn and Pod will join Jamie on his trek north. The real question is will Beric and Tormund beat the army of the dead to Winterfell? At some point will we have Jon, Dany, Beric, Tormund, Brienne, The Hound, Jamie, Bronn, Jorah and of course Pod on the screen at once? I left out Arya because I'm assuming she'll head down to KL for Cersei. Whether or not she gets her is another question entirely, but they didn't have Arya become a Faceless Man so she could sneak up on the Night King with a wight mask on.
It was good to see Littlefinger get what was coming to him. It seemed a little anticlimactic but he died fittingly, I think. All of his scheming outed in front of everyone, begging for his life like a coward. I wish Varys could've been there to see it. I do think it's funny that the Lords of the Vale didn't really need convincing, but I always thought they were fools to follow him in the first place so whatever. The good news is it confirmed the Stark girls weren't as stupid as they were letting on, but it does make those scenes between them nonsensical. There's no reason to pretend you're at odds with each other when nobody else is in the room.
Anyway, I hope we don't have to wait until 2019 for the final season. Though it could be worse. If GRRM was the showrunner, we'd have to wait until 2032.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 14:50:22 GMT
10/10.
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Post by kevin on Aug 28, 2017 15:15:42 GMT
How would you rank this seasons' epiodes? My ranking:
1. The Dragon and the Wolf 2. The Spoils of War 3. The Queen's Justice 4. Stormborn 5. Beyond the Wall 6. Eastwatch 7. Dragonstone
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 28, 2017 16:32:57 GMT
What I said in Marv's thread: It was a great finale to set up next season. Overall, it felt like the show slowed down to normal levels The Great Stuff:
The parlay - Everything from the meet up to the zombie to the pretty logical outcome. The Night King - I can't comprehend people not liking this. Littlefinger - A nice turnaround to what is still a crappy storyline. The reunion between Sansa and Arya was wonderful though Cersei & Tyrion - The best parts of seasons 2 and 3 often involved their conversations This season is going to make me sound like I hate it, but I can't help it. The Problematic Stuff:R+L=A - As usual, I absolutely despise just about everything regard "Jon's" heritage. Zombie Dragon logic - Although it's a cool visual, why is the dragon breath blue?. Also, didn;t he blow up the dragon's windpipe with the ice pick? Zombie Dragon logic Part II - Shouldn't they have assumed the dragon could become a zombie. Theon - Dangit, he's still alive Euron - How did they know that what they saw would convince him to leave for the Iron Islands? Only one death. There's a lot more survivors going into the final season than I expected.
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Aug 28, 2017 18:01:54 GMT
Yes, yes, yes! This is exactly what I wanted from Game of Thrones. I didn't bother me that much during the season, but during this episode I realized how much I missed the slower, more poetic, pacing of Game of Thrones. This episode felt right in every single way. I really hope the final season will also be able to keep this slower pacing, even during the final action scenes, because this is what makes Game of Thrones amazing. The dialogue was great and finally Peter Dinklage can show his acting skills once more. He didn't have much to do last season, but that one scene with Cerei reminds me why he's one of my favorite characters. And he isn't the only Lannister who had a big moment this episode. After 7 seasons Jaime finally realizes how crazy Cersei is and the scene between Jaime and Cersei is equally incredible as the one with Tyrion. Baelish was one of the best characters on the show, but he went out in the perfect way. After years of plotting Littlefinger is finally exposed as the murderer and traitor he is and, even though it didn;t look like that halway during of the season, the North seems to be more united now than ever after the death of Littlefinger. And then those final minutes, wow! One of my favorite moments of the entire series: Samwell & Bran discussing Jon's heritage (we see Rhaegar!), Jon & Daenerys making love on the boat and the Night King destroying the wall. I had chills when Bran said 'He's the heir to the iron throne'. It's my favorite ending sequence/scene of a GoT season so far. It's all happening and I can't wait for season 8. I don't know how I'll survive another year or maybe even more without Game of Thrones (I'll probably just rewatch it). My favorite finale is The Winds of Winter (btw that's also my favorite episode of the show so far), but 'The Dragon and the Wolf' is still one of my favorite Game of Thrones episode and I also think my favorite episode of the season. Yes, the dragon battle in episode 4 was unbelievably amazing, but this episode is why I love Game of Thrones. So no question a 10/10. Ugh, I enjoyed what I saw of the episode but that Jon and Dany scene was disgusting.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 28, 2017 18:23:43 GMT
Yes, yes, yes! This is exactly what I wanted from Game of Thrones. I didn't bother me that much during the season, but during this episode I realized how much I missed the slower, more poetic, pacing of Game of Thrones. This episode felt right in every single way. I really hope the final season will also be able to keep this slower pacing, even during the final action scenes, because this is what makes Game of Thrones amazing. The dialogue was great and finally Peter Dinklage can show his acting skills once more. He didn't have much to do last season, but that one scene with Cerei reminds me why he's one of my favorite characters. And he isn't the only Lannister who had a big moment this episode. After 7 seasons Jaime finally realizes how crazy Cersei is and the scene between Jaime and Cersei is equally incredible as the one with Tyrion. Baelish was one of the best characters on the show, but he went out in the perfect way. After years of plotting Littlefinger is finally exposed as the murderer and traitor he is and, even though it didn;t look like that halway during of the season, the North seems to be more united now than ever after the death of Littlefinger. And then those final minutes, wow! One of my favorite moments of the entire series: Samwell & Bran discussing Jon's heritage (we see Rhaegar!), Jon & Daenerys making love on the boat and the Night King destroying the wall. I had chills when Bran said 'He's the heir to the iron throne'. It's my favorite ending sequence/scene of a GoT season so far. It's all happening and I can't wait for season 8. I don't know how I'll survive another year or maybe even more without Game of Thrones (I'll probably just rewatch it). My favorite finale is The Winds of Winter (btw that's also my favorite episode of the show so far), but 'The Dragon and the Wolf' is still one of my favorite Game of Thrones episode and I also think my favorite episode of the season. Yes, the dragon battle in episode 4 was unbelievably amazing, but this episode is why I love Game of Thrones. So no question a 10/10. Ugh, I enjoyed what I saw of the episode but that Jon and Dany scene was disgusting. Agreed.
It will be interesting if people just become ok with it based on their initial ignorance.
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Post by kevin on Aug 28, 2017 19:10:30 GMT
Yes, yes, yes! This is exactly what I wanted from Game of Thrones. I didn't bother me that much during the season, but during this episode I realized how much I missed the slower, more poetic, pacing of Game of Thrones. This episode felt right in every single way. I really hope the final season will also be able to keep this slower pacing, even during the final action scenes, because this is what makes Game of Thrones amazing. The dialogue was great and finally Peter Dinklage can show his acting skills once more. He didn't have much to do last season, but that one scene with Cerei reminds me why he's one of my favorite characters. And he isn't the only Lannister who had a big moment this episode. After 7 seasons Jaime finally realizes how crazy Cersei is and the scene between Jaime and Cersei is equally incredible as the one with Tyrion. Baelish was one of the best characters on the show, but he went out in the perfect way. After years of plotting Littlefinger is finally exposed as the murderer and traitor he is and, even though it didn;t look like that halway during of the season, the North seems to be more united now than ever after the death of Littlefinger. And then those final minutes, wow! One of my favorite moments of the entire series: Samwell & Bran discussing Jon's heritage (we see Rhaegar!), Jon & Daenerys making love on the boat and the Night King destroying the wall. I had chills when Bran said 'He's the heir to the iron throne'. It's my favorite ending sequence/scene of a GoT season so far. It's all happening and I can't wait for season 8. I don't know how I'll survive another year or maybe even more without Game of Thrones (I'll probably just rewatch it). My favorite finale is The Winds of Winter (btw that's also my favorite episode of the show so far), but 'The Dragon and the Wolf' is still one of my favorite Game of Thrones episode and I also think my favorite episode of the season. Yes, the dragon battle in episode 4 was unbelievably amazing, but this episode is why I love Game of Thrones. So no question a 10/10. Ugh, I enjoyed what I saw of the episode but that Jon and Dany scene was disgusting. That will be one awkward conversation when they find out they're related.
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Aug 28, 2017 19:45:10 GMT
Ugh, I enjoyed what I saw of the episode but that Jon and Dany scene was disgusting. Agreed.
It will be interesting if people just become ok with it based on their initial ignorance.
For the life of me I can't understand why so many people wanted them to get together knowing they're related. Or why they wanted him to eventually get with Sansa.
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Aug 28, 2017 19:46:24 GMT
Ugh, I enjoyed what I saw of the episode but that Jon and Dany scene was disgusting. That will be one awkward conversation when they find out they're related. You got that right! This could have all been avoided if dumb Ned would have told him who his mother and father were way back when he left for the Wall.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 28, 2017 19:53:25 GMT
Jon and Danerys hitting it... She's his aunt! I want them together, but not like this... not like this... lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:26:46 GMT
How would you rank this seasons' epiodes? My ranking: 1. The Dragon and the Wolf 2. The Spoils of War 3. The Queen's Justice 4. Beyond the Wall 5. Stormborn 6. Eastwatch 7. Dragonstone 1. 'The Spoils of War' 2. 'The Dragon and the Wolf' 3. 'The Queen's Justice' 4. 'Eastwatch' 5. 'Beyond the wall' 6. 'Stormborn' 7. 'Dragon stone'
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Post by bluerisk on Aug 28, 2017 20:40:49 GMT
It depicted the epic proportion of Tyrion's stupidity: he achieved nothing - ok, Jaime turned but therefore Euron has all the time to ship the Golden Company safely to Cercei) - but provided the NK with a dragon. The last scene, when the wall fall and the army passed throught it...all of it, was solely Tyrion's doing.
He came up with this stupid plan that served in the end no purpose. And as her brother, he should have know.
The writing off Martin has become abysmal.
And no, I wasn't the one with 1/10 but the one who gave 7/10.
The set ups like Brienne, Podrick, the Cleganes, Jaime, the trail of Littlefinger...these aspects are so good because it they are well written...there was a long and sound character development by Martin. That's the strength the show can still tap from. And the last scene was splendid.
But the way it came to it is my big problem: Tyrion's utter stupidity. What were the writers thinking? Was there no proper, maybe longer way to let the Night's King pass the wall.
The Horn of Winter, something that attacks the magic foundations of the wall.
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Post by pk9 on Aug 28, 2017 21:29:14 GMT
Tyrion has nothing do with NK getting a dragon. That was Jon's stupid plan, and Dany went to the rescue over Tyrion's objections.
That's like blaming Tyrion for Tommen's suicide.
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 29, 2017 13:02:03 GMT
Also, does anyone care what happens to Yara? Me I don't think it was all pretence. I think they were suspicious of one another but they eventually worked out behind the scenes that they were being manipulated.
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 29, 2017 13:25:23 GMT
Tyrion has nothing do with NK getting a dragon. That was Jon's stupid plan, and Dany went to the rescue over Tyrion's objections. That's like blaming Tyrion for Tommen's suicide. I agree. He has been posting this everywhere and giving no reason why. Tyrion might be the least responsible for it actually. It was Jon's plan that he did not believe in and then he begged Dany not to go after them. How in any way is it his fault?
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 29, 2017 13:46:09 GMT
Best line of the season so far for me:
Bran: "I have become the three-eyed raven." Sam: "Oh! ... I don't know what that is."
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 29, 2017 14:21:38 GMT
I have a different slant on Tyrion's responsibility.
He should have believed Jon in the first place or at least given him more benefit of the doubt.
Dany should have too considering the things she's seen and the fact she's got 3 dragons. Maybe Jon did not explain Hardhome good enough, but there's no way he comes across as crazy in a world that is familiar with magic.
A lot of the problems with episode 6 could have been avoided if only Dany had simply travelled to Eastwatch in the first place. Dragonstone would not be in danger and she didn't actually need to be a part of the caravan. If anything, if the danger was considered overrated, then Eastwatch would have been one of the safer places for her.
I also thought it was foolish not to mention the dragon dying since that would emphasize the notion that these zombie dudes don't play & it would also further reinforce the notion that Dany is sincere in joining the North in fighting the walkers.
The reality is that Tyrion is too tormented of a soul to be as effective as he was when he was temporary Hand and all of it is clouding his judgement.
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