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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 18:52:53 GMT
He isn't correct. Careful analysis might find one or two points, but honestly at first glance it seemed to me that every single thing in the article is wrong. Frankly, I doubt his honesty. So there is some truth in the article. Thank you for your honesty. Do you not understand what the word "might" means?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 18:53:01 GMT
I dont think i ever met any gay person that was angry.. actually ive experienced the exact opposite with them :/
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Post by geode on Feb 28, 2017 18:53:48 GMT
I believe Dennis Marcellino is an evangelical Christian and has never been a Mormon.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Feb 28, 2017 18:53:52 GMT
He isn't correct. Careful analysis might find one or two points, but honestly at first glance it seemed to me that every single thing in the article is wrong. Frankly, I doubt his honesty. So there is some truth in the article. Thank you for your honesty. He said 'Careful analysis MIGHT find one or two points'. Your reading comprehension is poor. No wonder you can't understand the Bible.
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Post by blade on Feb 28, 2017 18:56:31 GMT
So there is some truth in the article. Thank you for your honesty. Do you not understand what the word "might" means? So one might find them or there might be some truth?
Cause I see some truth in the article. I'm sure you do too.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Feb 28, 2017 19:02:19 GMT
blade.. Is there anything I can do to help you not think about homosexuals so much?
I would very much like to help you suffer less.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Feb 28, 2017 19:08:19 GMT
blade.. Is there anything I can do to help you not think about homosexuals so much? I would very much like to help you suffer less. Pretty much this. I'm not of the "protests too much" mindset when it comes to this stuff, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone focus on this topic to this degree, going back years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:10:58 GMT
Do you not understand what the word "might" means? So one might find them or there might be some truth?
Cause I see some truth in the article. Such as? Not so far. Certainly the premise of the article - that gays are, as a group, "angry" people, is entirely unsupported by evidence. And appears to me to be simply flat wrong. I've known many gay people in my life, and whilst of course they have all experienced anger in their lives (who hasn't?), I don't recall ever meeting one that I'd call an angry person. Given the absurdity of the premise, the reasoning supporting it naturally has to be nonsensical, and it generally is. The author writes from the point of view that homosexuality is inherently bad or wrong, and therefore states that gay people are essentially angry because they want to live lives based on wrongness. But that homosexuality is bad or wrong is mere presumption on his part, rather than the basic truth he appears to think it is. Again, this presumption is never supported in the text - it's merely taken as a given. The suggestion that god smote New Orleans with a hurricane because of gays is, of course, so ridiculous that it barely merits discussion. As does the idea that god destroys societies because of the presence of homosexuality. He does say "gays are people first". He uses it in the sense of "...so don't treat them badly because they are so evil", though, so I couldn't call it an honest sentiment as such. But I can get behind that statement if one took it at face value. Similarly, he says "And we should have compassion on anyone who is having a problem in this life." Again, he means it in the sense of "gayness being their problem", which makes the statement false. But I would agree with the sentence as a literal statement of truth. He goes on to support the existence of "ex gay" people and "gay conversion". The first is imaginary and the second is one of the active evils of the world which harms many thousands of people. So honestly, no, I cannot find a single element of truth in that entire article. Just a couple of sentences here and there that one could take as true... if, and only if, one interpreted them to mean something other than what the author means by them.
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Post by blade on Feb 28, 2017 19:14:37 GMT
So one might find them or there might be some truth?
Cause I see some truth in the article. Such as? Not so far. Certainly the premise of the article - that gays are, as a group, "angry" people, is entirely unsupported by evidence. And appears to me to be simply flat wrong. I've known many gay people in my life, and whilst of course they have all experienced anger in their lives (who hasn't?), I don't recall ever meeting one that I'd call an angry person. Given the absurdity of the premise, the reasoning supporting it naturally has to be nonsensical, and it generally is. The author writes from the point of view that homosexuality is inherently bad or wrong, and therefore states that gay people are essentially angry because they want to live lives based on wrongness. But that homosexuality is bad or wrong is mere presumption on his part, rather than the basic truth he appears to think it is. Again, this presumption is never supported in the text - it's merely taken as a given. The suggestion that god smote New Orleans with a hurricane because of gays is, of course, so ridiculous that it barely merits discussion. As does the idea that god destroys societies because of the presence of homosexuality. He does say "gays are people first". He uses it in the sense of "...so don't treat them badly because they are so evil", though, so I couldn't call it an honest sentiment as such. But I can get behind that statement if one took it at face value. Similarly, he says "And we should have compassion on anyone who is having a problem in this life." Again, he means it in the sense of "gayness being their problem", which makes the statement false. But I would agree with the sentence as a literal statement of truth. He goes on to support the existence of "ex gay" people and "gay conversion". The first is imaginary and the second is one of the active evils of the world which harms many thousands of people. So honestly, no, I cannot find a single element of truth in that entire article. Just a couple of sentences here and there that one could take as true... if, and only if, one interpreted them to mean something other than what the author means by them.
So did you mean one "might" find them or there "might" be some truth?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:16:52 GMT
I answered that in the post you quoted.
"So honestly, no, I cannot find a single element of truth in that entire article. Just a couple of sentences here and there that one could take as true... if, and only if, one interpreted them to mean something other than what the author means by them."
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Post by blade on Feb 28, 2017 19:19:16 GMT
I answered that in the post you quoted. "So honestly, no, I cannot find a single element of truth in that entire article. Just a couple of sentences here and there that one could take as true... if, and only if, one interpreted them to mean something other than what the author means by them." Then why did you say one "might" find some truth?
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Post by blade on Feb 28, 2017 19:20:06 GMT
I answered that in the post you quoted. "So honestly, no, I cannot find a single element of truth in that entire article. Just a couple of sentences here and there that one could take as true... if, and only if, one interpreted them to mean something other than what the author means by them." Then why did you say one "might" find some truth? To me that means someone didn't read it thoroughly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:21:14 GMT
Because at the time I said it I had not carefully read the entire article through and thought about each part of it in detail. So it was possible that there would be elements of truth within it which I had not yet found.
Having carefully read it, however, I see that there are not, except in the sense I just referred to.
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Post by blade on Feb 28, 2017 19:53:39 GMT
Because at the time I said it I had not carefully read the entire article through and thought about each part of it in detail. So it was possible that there would be elements of truth within it which I had not yet found. Having carefully read it, however, I see that there are not, except in the sense I just referred to.
Well I disagree. I think there are some truths in the article. There are also some parts of the article that are incorrect.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:58:54 GMT
Because at the time I said it I had not carefully read the entire article through and thought about each part of it in detail. So it was possible that there would be elements of truth within it which I had not yet found. Having carefully read it, however, I see that there are not, except in the sense I just referred to.
Well I disagree. I think there are some truths in the article.
So you've said. But you haven't said what they are and why you think so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 20:59:41 GMT
So did you not read the two short lines of the OP or did you not understand them? I read them and understood that you were baiting for outrage... ... or you were too dim to understand he was incorrect and needed input from greater acumen. Which is it?
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Post by Nostalgias4Geeks🌈 on Feb 28, 2017 21:45:57 GMT
Why even post something stupid like this?
His entire point is based on a baseless assumption.
"Why are gays so angry?"
Last time I checked, they aren't.
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Post by blade on Feb 28, 2017 21:52:58 GMT
So did you not read the two short lines of the OP or did you not understand them? I read them and understood that you were baiting for outrage... ... or you were too dim to understand he was incorrect and needed input from greater acumen. Which is it?
So did you not read the two short lines of the OP or did you not understand them? Which is it eddy?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 21:57:30 GMT
I read them and understood that you were baiting for outrage... ... or you were too dim to understand he was incorrect and needed input from greater acumen. Which is it?
So did you not read the two short lines of the OP or did you not understand them? Which is it eddy?
There's something wrong with you... really. You literally quoted my answer.
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Post by jillmcbain on Feb 28, 2017 22:01:25 GMT
No, he is not correct. The entire premise of the article is faulty. Gay people aren't any angrier than straight people and they get angry for the same reasons as any other person does. The idea that gay people are angry "because of the fact that they ended up “gay” and they are angry at who caused them to end up in this condition" is ridiculous and the author of the article does nothing to prove or back this up. The author claims that "gays will always fight for social acceptance because deep down they don’t accept themselves" but offers no evidence to support this ridiculous notion. The article is extremely bigoted and homophobic and poorly written. It is full of assumptions which are not proven or supported in any way. A very dishonest article. Do you have any evidence to support that Steve? Since you went there it goes both ways. Have you read the article before you linked it?
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