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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 24, 2017 21:07:10 GMT
So they can't get the DCEU on solid ground, but we're talking about alternate reality films and you don't see how this is a mess? They'd just have to either abandon the DCEU or change the name to something like DCEM. It's just clear that there's no actual plan.
When you hear people saying it provides creative freedom, what they mean is it's a total free for all with no direction.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 24, 2017 21:14:18 GMT
well, yes, if its a Bat-verse movie it surely would have to be a new Bat-actor, not Batfleck, or people would get really confused. The characters would have to be different in tone, looks, arc and character. Supes & Co exist only as cartoons there. And this would have to focus on smaller characters like Batgirl, Robin or some villain for who there is no real time in the bigger, galactic DCEU. So they can't get the DCEU on solid ground, but we're talking about alternate reality films and you don't see how this is a mess? so we are butt sore that we were absolutely wrong with Batman being non-DCEU and thus must childishly insist on our point to the point of bullying? Mess? In all chaos there is an inner order, one needs the wit to realize it. Organizational mess would describe the last few Star Wars films nicely that saw directors being fired mid shoot. I do not know about the DC or Fox films, but I heard similar messy stuff about MCU shootings (Thor 2, Antman, Avenger 2 directors) in fact Marvel is infamous for disgruntled employees bitching. An multiverse with some content not possible in MCU may artistically elaborate the MCU too btw. But I understand you already disconnected from X-Men after the original trilogy's soft reboot, so there is little hope you would like that sort of "mess". |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 24, 2017 21:15:40 GMT
They'd just have to either abandon the DCEU or change the name to something like DCEM. It's just clear that there's no actual plan.
When you hear people saying it provides creative freedom, what they mean is it's a total free for all with no direction.
Yes, and that's how you get in the crap that became the X-men movies. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 24, 2017 21:26:35 GMT
So they can't get the DCEU on solid ground, but we're talking about alternate reality films and you don't see how this is a mess? so we are butt sore that we were absolutely wrong with Batman being non-DCEU and thus must childishly insist on our point to the point of bullying? Mess? In all chaos there is an inner order, one needs the wit to realize it. Organizational mess would describe the last few Star Wars films nicely that saw directors being fired mid shoot. I do not know about the DC or Fox films, but I heard similar messy stuff about MCU shootings (Thor 2, Antman, Avenger 2 directors) in fact Marvel is infamous for disgruntled employees bitching. An multiverse with some content not possible in MCU may artistically elaborate the MCU too btw. But I understand you already disconnected from X-Men after the original trilogy's soft reboot, so there is little hope you would like that sort of "mess". I don't even know what you are arguing about. I'm just pointing out the obvious lack of organization with DC's current film product. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 21:29:36 GMT
so we are butt sore that we were absolutely wrong with Batman being non-DCEU and thus must childishly insist on our point to the point of bullying? Mess? In all chaos there is an inner order, one needs the wit to realize it. Organizational mess would describe the last few Star Wars films nicely that saw directors being fired mid shoot. I do not know about the DC or Fox films, but I heard similar messy stuff about MCU shootings (Thor 2, Antman, Avenger 2 directors) in fact Marvel is infamous for disgruntled employees bitching. An multiverse with some content not possible in MCU may artistically elaborate the MCU too btw. But I understand you already disconnected from X-Men after the original trilogy's soft reboot, so there is little hope you would like that sort of "mess". I don't even know what you are arguing about. I'm just pointing out the obvious lack of organization with DC's current film product. He's not arguing. He's just running his mouth about how much he hates the MCU because that's all his does. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 24, 2017 22:02:36 GMT
So they can't get the DCEU on solid ground, but we're talking about alternate reality films and you don't see how this is a mess? so we are butt sore that we were absolutely wrong with Batman being non-DCEU and thus must childishly insist on our point to the point of bullying? Mess? In all chaos there is an inner order, one needs the wit to realize it. Organizational mess would describe the last few Star Wars films nicely that saw directors being fired mid shoot. I do not know about the DC or Fox films, but I heard similar messy stuff about MCU shootings (Thor 2, Antman, Avenger 2 directors) in fact Marvel is infamous for disgruntled employees bitching. An multiverse with some content not possible in MCU may artistically elaborate the MCU too btw. But I understand you already disconnected from X-Men after the original trilogy's soft reboot, so there is little hope you would like that sort of "mess". Okay. With Patty Jenkins, she wanted to make her own movie that didn't gel well with the direction they wanted it to go in. They disagreed, she left. Simple. How many directors did the Flash have? More than we can count. And they still don't have one do they? It's funny that Jenkins went to make Wonder Woman and had the same thing done there. Because she was a director for hire. I think she only stayed because it's Wonder Woman. Same thing happened with Edgar Wright and Ant-Man. But instead of leaving like a mature adult, he led Marvel on and held up the production of Ant-Man for years (a younger Hank Pym and Wasp was suppose to be in Avengers). He actually went and made another movie for a friend because he couldn't get his way on making Ant-Man. Avengers 2 was the last movie that was done with a go-between committee that was between Fiege and Disney. They were the ones that interfered with that movie. That's why they aren't there anymore. Marvel is the more popular CBM studio. People just don't care about the goings on at DC all that much. There were a couple directors for The Batman before Reeves stepped in, but nobody cares to remember. Same goes for Wonder Woman (Jenkins wasn't the 1st director of it), Aquaman and the Flash. I think if there was a method to the madness then it would be all good. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 24, 2017 22:03:59 GMT
DC Anthology Universe... Nah, there is already the DC Animated Universe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 22:06:15 GMT
I have to say... its impressive how a director poorly wording his plans for his movie has really brought the absolute worst in the comic book movie fandom on this website.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 24, 2017 22:13:31 GMT
I think Reeves just worded it wrong. I think he was trying to say that his Batman movie will feature only the heroes and villains of Gotham.
There won't be any cameos or team-ups, in other words.
Or maybe he really knew what he was talking about and Batman is done in the DCEU. I don't honestly know.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 25, 2017 1:18:54 GMT
LOLOLOL MCU Fans Proven to be Idiots Again!Matt Reeves Clarifies Whether The Batman Solo Movie Fits Into The DCEU Once again, I was right. When all the dumb MCU fans here were jumping up and down celebrating thinking that The Batman movie wasn't going to be part of the DCEU, I explained to the dumb MCU fans that: What Reeves is saying is his Batman movie wont be a shitty movie like Spider-Man: Homecoming, where Tony Stark is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, Iron Man rescues Spider-Man when Vulture dumps him in the water, Iron Man comes to the rescue on the ferry boat, Spider-Man uses AI-type suits given to him by Tony Stark rather than using his Spider-Sense, and Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie.
Instead, the Batman movie will be more like Wonder Woman, a stand-alone movie that doesn't have to rely on cameos from characters in other movies but is still a part of the DCEU.And now, Reeves has confirmed that he was indeed saying what I wrote yesterday.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 25, 2017 1:28:58 GMT
LOLOLOL MCU Fans Proven to be Idiots Again!Matt Reeves Clarifies Whether The Batman Solo Movie Fits Into The DCEU Once again, I was right. When all the dumb MCU fans here were jumping up and down celebrating thinking that The Batman movie wasn't going to be part of the DCEU, I explained to the dumb MCU fans that: What Reeves is saying is his Batman movie wont be a shitty movie like Spider-Man: Homecoming, where Tony Stark is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, Iron Man rescues Spider-Man when Vulture dumps him in the water, Iron Man comes to the rescue on the ferry boat, Spider-Man uses AI-type suits given to him by Tony Stark rather than using his Spider-Sense, and Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie.
Instead, the Batman movie will be more like Wonder Woman, a stand-alone movie that doesn't have to rely on cameos from characters in other movies but is still a part of the DCEU.And now, Reeves has confirmed that he was indeed saying what I wrote yesterday. What Reeves is saying is that he's too creatively bankrupt to think of a Batman story that could take place in a world of Superbeings while still focusing on Batman. Whereas Homecoming was able to do so with Spider-Man, Tony having a minor presence. |
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