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Post by Jep Gambardella on Aug 29, 2017 2:41:51 GMT
- Every four years, instead of the Confederations Cup, a new World Club Championship with 24 teams, played in the (Northern hemisphere) summer
- In the other years, it is back to the same format that existed between 1980 and 2004 - a single match between the champions of Europe and the champions of South America, played in a neutral country (possibly Japan, depending on sponsors).
The idea of a Club World Cup sounds interesting, but I wonder how they are going to determine who gets to play in it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 7:33:16 GMT
It is a good idea in theory.
In practice I'm not sure if it will work.
How many European clubs are going to take it seriously, when the schedules are already packed? They'll probably treat it as a pre-season tour as they aren't going to want their squad fatigued for the new season.
That said though, I'm not against it, be interesting to see, the problem really is that any teams outside of Europe hasn't got a cats chance in hell of winning it, whether they treat it lightly or not.
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Post by Excellent Bulletproof Vest on Aug 29, 2017 12:09:38 GMT
- Every four years, instead of the Confederations Cup, a new World Club Championship with 24 teams, played in the (Northern hemisphere) summer - In the other years, it is back to the same format that existed between 1980 and 2004 - a single match between the champions of Europe and the champions of South America, played in a neutral country (possibly Japan, depending on sponsors). The idea of a Club World Cup sounds interesting, but I wonder how they are going to determine who gets to play in it. Last 4 Champions from each Confederation would get you to 24. Hosts would be shit out of luck and it'd be terribly unbalanced though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 12:12:26 GMT
Didn't we already do this?
What was that thing back in 2000 that meant United had to miss the FA cup?
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Aug 29, 2017 12:18:06 GMT
It is a good idea in theory. In practice I'm not sure if it will work. How many European clubs are going to take it seriously, when the schedules are already packed? They'll probably treat it as a pre-season tour as they aren't going to want their squad fatigued for the new season. That said though, I'm not against it, be interesting to see, the problem really is that any teams outside of Europe hasn't got a cats chance in hell of winning it, whether they treat it lightly or not. Agree about the low chances for non-European clubs. In the present format it is difficult enough but it can still happen, as it boils down to one match. In this new proposed format, there would be what? At least four top European clubs? Not a chance in hell that any South American team could come out on top. I am just thinking now that there is a bit of a Catch-22 in the distribution of spots. If FIFA gives a lot of spots to European clubs (which in theory deserve them because they are considerably stronger), other continents won't be so interested and it will be just another Champions League. If FIFA does what they have been doing for the past few decades (favour the "weaker" confederations by giving them more spots that their quality warrants), who the hell is going to watch it? |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Aug 29, 2017 12:20:45 GMT
Didn't we already do this? What was that thing back in 2000 that meant United had to miss the FA cup? I don't think that one was all that different from the current format, which has the champions of each continent, plus one team from the host country. That is still going on, every year in December, in Japan or in the UAE. |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Aug 29, 2017 12:31:19 GMT
- Every four years, instead of the Confederations Cup, a new World Club Championship with 24 teams, played in the (Northern hemisphere) summer - In the other years, it is back to the same format that existed between 1980 and 2004 - a single match between the champions of Europe and the champions of South America, played in a neutral country (possibly Japan, depending on sponsors). The idea of a Club World Cup sounds interesting, but I wonder how they are going to determine who gets to play in it. Last 4 Champions from each Confederation would get you to 24. Hosts would be shit out of luck and it'd be terribly unbalanced though. In addition to being terribly unbalanced, there would be another problem: unlike in Europe, where the same usual suspects win the Champions League every year, in South America even the top teams have ups and downs. A team that won the Libertadores three years earlier will have sold its top players to Europe already and might not be top of its domestic league anymore, let alone top of the continent. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 29, 2017 16:01:44 GMT
- Every four years, instead of the Confederations Cup, a new World Club Championship with 24 teams, played in the (Northern hemisphere) summer Confed Cup is nations though yes? If you're suggesting get rid of that, I'd say no. Expanded W Club Cup might have to land in the 2yr offs the WC, which would clash with Euro Cup which I say no also. I think the World Club Cup as it is now is as fine as we'll ever see it. Besides, it's a fun ultimate prize for any non Euro & S.Amer side... TFC defeating Real Madrid for a trophy would surely be more satisfying than an MLS Cup. |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Aug 29, 2017 16:25:04 GMT
- Every four years, instead of the Confederations Cup, a new World Club Championship with 24 teams, played in the (Northern hemisphere) summer Confed Cup is nations though yes? If you're suggesting get rid of that, I'd say no. Expanded W Club Cup might have to land in the 2yr offs the WC, which would clash with Euro Cup which I say no also. I think the World Club Cup as it is now is as fine as we'll ever see it. Besides, it's a fun ultimate prize for any non Euro & S.Amer side... TFC defeating Real Madrid for a trophy would surely be more satisfying than an MLS Cup. Well, it is FIFA's suggestion, not mine, but yes, the idea would be to replace the Confederations Cup with an expanded Club World Cup. I am not sure if the reasoning is "nobody seems to care much about the Confederations Cup, what could we replace it with?" or "we should have a bigger Club World Cup. When could we fit it in the schedule? How about the Confederations Cup?". Before there is more parity between the clubs of different continents (which is surely not something that will happen in my lifetime), I agree, the current format is as good as can possibly be realistically done. Just participating is a great prize for the other continents, and it doesn't take a whole lot of time from the European schedule. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 1:49:48 GMT
Bad idea with insane number of teams, IMO. But don't let sense get in the way of greed.
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Post by hamsterman11 on Aug 30, 2017 10:28:21 GMT
So Auckland City get to lose three games instead of one?
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Aug 31, 2017 13:53:47 GMT
More details about this proposal: the number of participants would be:
12 for Europe
5 for South America
2 for Africa
2 for Asia
1 for North/Central America and Caribbean
1 for Oceania
1 for host country
It would be up for each confederation to decide the criteria for selection.
Seems fair in terms of quality, but with 12 European clubs no one else is going to have a whiff of a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 14:23:00 GMT
Its pointless because it going to be completely dominated by European teams. Teams from South America (Brazil\Argentina) may have a small chance. But lets be honest the teams from Africa, Asia, North/Central America and Caribbean and Oceania will not have a chance in hell.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 31, 2017 16:18:11 GMT
More details about this proposal: the number of participants would be: 12 for Europe 5 for South America 2 for Africa 2 for Asia 1 for North/Central America and Caribbean 1 for Oceania 1 for host country It would be up for each confederation to decide the criteria for selection. Seems fair in terms of quality, but with 12 European clubs no one else is going to have a whiff of a chance. omg, & here I was half expecting global parity. Why would UEFA want to even send 12 (i.e. would stars really want to go), or would they even want to play this entirely new tournament. I'd go... 8 Euro 5 S.Am 3 Afr 3 Asia 3 NA 1 Oc 1 Hose |
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