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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:05:12 GMT
When a Christian shows up at your door, interrupting whatever you were doing to tell you about Jee-zuhs... They make it seem like you’re not an animal lover Even though I can’t decide if I’m a cat or dog person, I’m obviously an animal lover. I visit the zoo whenever I can, and I bought a animal calendar from the Humane Society. I just don’t love chickens. They think nutritional yeast is cool, and vegan cheese is good Why do they always push their weird foods on non-vegans? We all know they taste like feet, give up. They make you watch scary documentaries and read books Once you’ve seen one movie, you’ve seen them all. Blah blah blah end of the world bullshit. Not buying into that propaganda. And I’m definitely not wasting time on fiction, either. They judge you They’re always telling non-vegans what’s wrong with them. This lifestyle is good enough for Leonardo DiCaprio, so it’s good enough for me. They tell everyone they’re vegan all the time We know- do you want a medal? Should we give prizes to everyone who had broccoli for dinner? They are so pretentious/narcissistic/self righteous They think that just because they don’t contribute to the slaughter of piglets on the daily, they’re saints. Don’t you know faux leather is bad for the environment, too? They think they’re the only ethical people All of my meat is humane, and I would never eat eggs from chickens that weren’t given at least three inches of space for chilling. Don’t pretend being ethical has anything to do with helping others. They force you to go to their favourite restaurant every time We all have THAT vegan friend. Your restaurant’s smell like kale and sadness, no thanks. Plus, I’ll just get hungry af in like an hour. They fill your fb page with animals Your profile and banner are bad enough, stop reposting every set of paws you could across. Do you even like humans? They spout facts and statistics all the time And none of them carry around their sources. It’s irresponsible. It’s total propaganda. Online, it’s totally made up, too. Everyone knows fossil fuels are the problem. They don’t like being asked questions about nutrition Why did you go vegan if you didn’t want to talk about vegetables? Everyone knows vegans are the healthiest, so I expect you to back that up when I ask you where you get your protein.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:09:37 GMT
When a Christian shows up at your door, interrupting whatever you were doing to tell you about Jee-zuhs... They make it seem like you’re not an animal lover Even though I can’t decide if I’m a cat or dog person, I’m obviously an animal lover. I visit the zoo whenever I can, and I bought a animal calendar from the Humane Society. I just don’t love chickens. They think nutritional yeast is cool, and vegan cheese is good Why do they always push their weird foods on non-vegans? We all know they taste like feet, give up. They make you watch scary documentaries and read books Once you’ve seen one movie, you’ve seen them all. Blah blah blah end of the world bullshit. Not buying into that propaganda. And I’m definitely not wasting time on fiction, either. They judge you They’re always telling non-vegans what’s wrong with them. This lifestyle is good enough for Leonardo DiCaprio, so it’s good enough for me. They tell everyone they’re vegan all the time We know- do you want a medal? Should we give prizes to everyone who had broccoli for dinner? They are so pretentious/narcissistic/self righteous They think that just because they don’t contribute to the slaughter of piglets on the daily, they’re saints. Don’t you know faux leather is bad for the environment, too? They think they’re the only ethical people All of my meat is humane, and I would never eat eggs from chickens that weren’t given at least three inches of space for chilling. Don’t pretend being ethical has anything to do with helping others. They force you to go to their favourite restaurant every time We all have THAT vegan friend. Your restaurant’s smell like kale and sadness, no thanks. Plus, I’ll just get hungry af in like an hour. They fill your fb page with animals Your profile and banner are bad enough, stop reposting every set of paws you could across. Do you even like humans? They spout facts and statistics all the time And none of them carry around their sources. It’s irresponsible. It’s total propaganda. Online, it’s totally made up, too. Everyone knows fossil fuels are the problem. They don’t like being asked questions about nutrition Why did you go vegan if you didn’t want to talk about vegetables? Everyone knows vegans are the healthiest, so I expect you to back that up when I ask you where you get your protein. I'm a vegan... What questions do you want answered son? If it's protein, ask vegan heavyweight boxer David Haye, he seems to get more than enough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:12:50 GMT
I don't want to eat shitty vegetarian/vegan food
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:15:39 GMT
I don't want to eat shitty vegetarian/vegan food Then don't... eat quality vegan food son... I support the world's first vegan football team... our stadium just won the sports centre quality catering of the year award for the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:18:52 GMT
I don't want to eat shitty vegetarian/vegan food Then don't... eat quality vegan food son... I support the world's first vegan football team... our stadium just won the sports centre quality catering of the year award for the UK. See this? Stop salivating
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:26:25 GMT
Ackees, chapatties Dumplins an nan, Channa an rotis Onion uttapam, Masala dosa Green callaloo Bhel an samosa Corn an aloo. Yam an cassava Pepperpot stew, Rotlo an guava Rice an tofu, Puri, paratha Sesame casserole, Brown eggless pasta An brown bread rolls.
Soya milked muesli Soya bean curd, Soya sweet sweeties Soya’s de word, Soya bean margarine Soya bean sauce, What can mek medicine? Soya of course.
Soya meks yoghurt Soya ice-cream, Or soya sorbet Soya reigns supreme, Soya sticks liquoriced Soya salads Try any soya dish Soya is bad.
Plantain an tabouli Cornmeal pudding Onion bhajee Wid plenty cumin, Breadfruit an coconuts Molasses tea Dairy free omelettes Very chilli. Ginger bread, nut roast Sorrell, paw paw, Cocoa an rye toast I tek dem on tour, Drinking cool maubi Meks me feel sweet, What was dat question now? What do we eat?
Vegan Delight by Benjamin Zephaniah
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Post by yezziqa on Mar 1, 2017 15:28:31 GMT
Militant vegans are the mouth breathers of different diet regimes, normal vegans that haven't lost touch with reality are just like anyone.
When the mouth breathers try and tell me that i "murder" animals, they discover that i'm not joking when I say that I have studied, they will get a long scientific rant about how my lifestyle kills millions of less animals than any vegan.
And by the way, a diet that requires taking supplements and were the womans breast milk are less nutritious, can never be seen as more healthy.
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Post by chasallnut on Mar 1, 2017 15:31:39 GMT
I don't want to eat shitty vegetarian/vegan food Then don't... eat quality vegan food son... I support the world's first vegan football team... our stadium just won the sports centre quality catering of the year award for the UK. I think that really is admirable what FGR are doing. I have considerably reduced my meat intake, mainly fish and shellfish. Switched to the veggie burgers, Linda McCartney's mozzarella burgers are so delicious (I know they contain dairy).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:31:56 GMT
Militant vegans are the mouth breathers of different diet regimes, normal vegans that haven't lost touch with reality are just like anyone. When the mouth breathers try and tell me that i "murder" animals, they discover that i'm not joking when I say that I have studied, they will get a long scientific rant about how my lifestyle kills millions of less animals than any vegan. And by the way, a diet that requires taking supplements and were the womans breast milk are less nutritious, can never be seen as more healthy. What supplements are they then? And do explain how vegans kill millions more animals than meat eaters, I would love to know.
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Post by yezziqa on Mar 1, 2017 15:41:48 GMT
Militant vegans are the mouth breathers of different diet regimes, normal vegans that haven't lost touch with reality are just like anyone. When the mouth breathers try and tell me that i "murder" animals, they discover that i'm not joking when I say that I have studied, they will get a long scientific rant about how my lifestyle kills millions of less animals than any vegan. And by the way, a diet that requires taking supplements and were the womans breast milk are less nutritious, can never be seen as more healthy. What supplements are they then? And do explain how vegans kill millions more animals than meat eaters, I would love to know. B 12.
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Post by chasallnut on Mar 1, 2017 15:44:09 GMT
Militant vegans are the mouth breathers of different diet regimes, normal vegans that haven't lost touch with reality are just like anyone. When the mouth breathers try and tell me that i "murder" animals, they discover that i'm not joking when I say that I have studied, they will get a long scientific rant about how my lifestyle kills millions of less animals than any vegan. And by the way, a diet that requires taking supplements and were the womans breast milk are less nutritious, can never be seen as more healthy. What supplements are they then? And do explain how vegans kill millions more animals than meat eaters, I would love to know. The manufacture of vegetables for human consumption has profound detrimental effects on wildlife in the UK alone. I Africa, Asia and South America we see the destruction of habitats for palm oil, or lowland gorillas being killed or without habitat due to crops. There is no way that humans can feed the population either by vegan means, without harming the planet's other inhabitants or by meat eating which obviously kills. Certainly not currently anyway.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 1, 2017 15:47:14 GMT
I'm a lacto-ovo vegetarian, and I never try to convert anyone to my dietary preference.
I will explain why I personally do not eat meat:
1. I, myself, could not kill an animal to eat it, so I shouldn't be okay with eating meat, just because someone else did the killing.
2. I have medical concerns; animals raised for food are often given drugs to promote rapid growth and are more likely to carry drug-resistant bacteria.
3. I have seen factory farms and found them inhumane in their treatment of animals, and I will not support that industry.
Once I have explained my personal reasons, I shut up. Most of my friends are not vegetarian and I respect that as their choice. We get along fine, agreeing to disagree. I never try to 'convert' them, nor do they try to 'convert' me, though there is a lot of good-natured ribbing going on.
Carnivores and herbivores can still be friends.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:48:55 GMT
What supplements are they then? And do explain how vegans kill millions more animals than meat eaters, I would love to know. B 12. You do know that B12 is a bacteria culture and not a meat product, right? And is available in yeast products and plant milks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:55:01 GMT
What supplements are they then? And do explain how vegans kill millions more animals than meat eaters, I would love to know. The manufacture of vegetables for human consumption has profound detrimental effects on wildlife in the UK alone. I Africa, Asia and South America we see the destruction of habitats for palm oil, or lowland gorillas being killed or without habitat due to crops. There is no way that humans can feed the population either by vegan means, without harming the planet's other inhabitants or by meat eating which obviously kills. Certainly not currently anyway. 40% of grain produced in the world is fed to farm animals (70% in the US)... Because of trophic levels, when a person then eats a farm animal, that person only gets 5 to 10% percent of the nutrient value of that grain themself... Feed that grain direct to people, you gain back that extra 90%... Therefore, vastly less land needed to grow crops, more people fed, and an ocean of fresh water saved.
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Post by yezziqa on Mar 1, 2017 16:02:31 GMT
Militant vegans are the mouth breathers of different diet regimes, normal vegans that haven't lost touch with reality are just like anyone. When the mouth breathers try and tell me that i "murder" animals, they discover that i'm not joking when I say that I have studied, they will get a long scientific rant about how my lifestyle kills millions of less animals than any vegan. And by the way, a diet that requires taking supplements and were the womans breast milk are less nutritious, can never be seen as more healthy. What supplements are they then? And do explain how vegans kill millions more animals than meat eaters, I would love to know. Vegetables, potatoes, grains, beans etc are grown in something called monocultures, it means that it is one crop in a big area. All of these plants bloom one time per season, and 70 % of them require pollinating insekts in order so set fruit. With them just blooming once per season, the insects starve. "Modern" agriculture also plow the fields, destroying it's layers and suffocating the animals living in it. The big monocultures is also more susceptible to diseases, and are sprayed with pesticides, causing things like the big bee death that killed 70 % of the worlds bees just a couple of years ago. And don't get me started on the effects of artificial fertilizers. So how is my lifestyle different? I'm a smallholder in my spare time and I have free range animals, that add their manure directly to the ground, I have a permaculture garden, where I dont plow. To have a truly ecofriendly permaculture, it requires to have animals. My lifestyle creates life, my farm is a haven for the insects. My food don't travel around the world, the cheese I eat I make myself from the milk of my neighbours cows. I eat the apples from the local trees and mushrooms I pick myself in the forrest.
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Post by yezziqa on Mar 1, 2017 16:04:11 GMT
You do know that B12 is a bacteria culture and not a meat product, right? And is available in yeast products and plant milks. And how did the B 12 end up there in the plant milk? By adding supplements perhaps? And Jacky, yeast products are supplements.
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Post by chasallnut on Mar 1, 2017 16:04:54 GMT
The manufacture of vegetables for human consumption has profound detrimental effects on wildlife in the UK alone. I Africa, Asia and South America we see the destruction of habitats for palm oil, or lowland gorillas being killed or without habitat due to crops. There is no way that humans can feed the population either by vegan means, without harming the planet's other inhabitants or by meat eating which obviously kills. Certainly not currently anyway. 40% of grain produced in the world is fed to farm animals (70% in the US)... Because of trophic levels, when a person then eats a farm animal, that person only gets 5 to 10% percent of the nutrient value of that grain themself... Feed that grain direct to people, you gain back that extra 90%... Therefore, vastly less land needed to grow crops, more people fed, and an ocean of fresh water saved. I would love there to be a perfect solution, but it isn't just the food produced for animals. Habitat for wildlife is destroyed when farming no matter how careful we are. As for water it's obscene the billions people pay for bottled water. I'm with you on the vegetarian front, but I can't ignore the impact farming to meet the needs of the world population if everyone became vegan. I just see human impact as a blight on the planet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 16:05:15 GMT
What supplements are they then? And do explain how vegans kill millions more animals than meat eaters, I would love to know. Vegetables, potatoes, grains, beans etc are grown in something called monocultures, it means that it is one crop in a big area. All of these plants bloom one time per season, and 70 % of them require pollinating insekts in order so set fruit. With them just blooming once per season, the insects starve. "Modern" agriculture also plow the fields, destroying it's layers and suffocating the animals living in it. The big monocultures is also more susceptible to diseases, and are sprayed with pesticides, causing things like the big bee death that killed 70 % of the worlds bees just a couple of years ago. And don't get me started on the effects of artificial fertilizers. So how is my lifestyle different? I'm a smallholder in my spare time and I have free range animals, that add their manure directly to the ground, I have a permaculture garden, where I dont plow. To have a truly ecofriendly permaculture, it requires to have animals. My lifestyle creates life, my farm is a haven for the insects. My food don't travel around the world, the cheese I eat I make myself from the milk of my neighbours cows. I eat the apples from the local trees and mushrooms I pick myself in the forrest. Then it is the method of production you have a problem with, not the choice of what you choose to eat... Why do you need animals for fertiliser? Humans produce enough shit for fertilising the land.
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 1, 2017 16:07:46 GMT
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Masala Dosa is mouth watering. I am planning to have it soon. Samosa and thai tofu green curry are just as good.
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Post by yezziqa on Mar 1, 2017 16:19:27 GMT
Vegetables, potatoes, grains, beans etc are grown in something called monocultures, it means that it is one crop in a big area. All of these plants bloom one time per season, and 70 % of them require pollinating insekts in order so set fruit. With them just blooming once per season, the insects starve. "Modern" agriculture also plow the fields, destroying it's layers and suffocating the animals living in it. The big monocultures is also more susceptible to diseases, and are sprayed with pesticides, causing things like the big bee death that killed 70 % of the worlds bees just a couple of years ago. And don't get me started on the effects of artificial fertilizers. So how is my lifestyle different? I'm a smallholder in my spare time and I have free range animals, that add their manure directly to the ground, I have a permaculture garden, where I dont plow. To have a truly ecofriendly permaculture, it requires to have animals. My lifestyle creates life, my farm is a haven for the insects. My food don't travel around the world, the cheese I eat I make myself from the milk of my neighbours cows. I eat the apples from the local trees and mushrooms I pick myself in the forrest. Then it is the method of production you have a problem with, not the choice of what you choose to eat... Why do you need animals for fertiliser? Humans produce enough shit for fertilising the land. Okay, let's do the basics. For one, humans eat so darn much crap and medicines (like birth control) that we would effectively kill the land. Sure, we could purify it, but then the poo is not interesting for insects in the same way. You see, insects need to breed somewhere. So yes, a truly environmentally friendly way of producing food, require animals. And by the way, a big chunk of those 70% of grain going to animals are from harvests that have failed and are not suitable for human consumption.
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