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Post by pimpinainteasy on Sept 9, 2017 17:07:29 GMT
is it the white women? or is american culture the most easily imitable?
discuss.
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Post by petrolino on Sept 10, 2017 0:49:09 GMT
For me, it's the diversity. We often hear that America is a great melting pot, a patchwork quilt woven from the finer elements of all the cultures that dwell inside. I feel like every U.S. state has its own character and untold treasures - there's someone I love from every state of America. And each city in each state has its own character - Pittsburgh is different to Philadelphia, just as Cincinnati is different Cleveland, though they share commonalities too. I just grew up loving American culture - the music, the literature, the art, the movies.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 10, 2017 14:25:27 GMT
For me, it's the diversity. We often hear that America is a great melting pot, a patchwork quilt woven from the finer elements of all the cultures that dwell inside. I feel like every U.S. state has its own character and untold treasures - there's someone I love from every state of America. And each city in each state has its own character - Pittsburgh is different to Philadelphia, just as Cincinnati is different Cleveland, though they share commonalities too. I just grew up loving American culture - the music, the literature, the art, the movies. Well, that and also I never fully grasped any other language. |
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Post by london777 on Sept 10, 2017 14:47:38 GMT
For me, it's the diversity. We often hear that America is a great melting pot, a patchwork quilt woven from the finer elements of all the cultures that dwell inside. I feel like every U.S. state has its own character and untold treasures - there's someone I love from every state of America. And each city in each state has its own character - Pittsburgh is different to Philadelphia, just as Cincinnati is different Cleveland, though they share commonalities too. I just grew up loving American culture - the music, the literature, the art, the movies. Well, that and also I never fully grasped any other language. We do speak English in other countries, you know. The clue is in the name. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2017 18:33:46 GMT
is it the white women? or is american culture the most easily imitable? Making sure that the Definition of imitable is : capable or worthy of being imitated or copied I would say that the IDEALIZED version of the American way of life presented in films would perhaps be the reason "we enjoy American culture so much." It sure looks like a swell place to live and even the bad stuff seems to have happy endings.
Dunno you, so am wondering if perhaps the inquiry is mainly intended for the out of the USA "we" crowd ? |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2017 18:36:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 21:44:02 GMT
For me, it's the diversity. We often hear that America is a great melting pot, a patchwork quilt woven from the finer elements of all the cultures that dwell inside. I feel like every U.S. state has its own character and untold treasures - there's someone I love from every state of America. And each city in each state has its own character - Pittsburgh is different to Philadelphia, just as Cincinnati is different Cleveland, though they share commonalities too. I just grew up loving American culture - the music, the literature, the art, the movies. Brazil is just as much as a smelting pot as the US. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2017 22:01:46 GMT
Feologild Oakes said Brazil is just as much as a smelting pot as the US.
BUT Brazil has never had immigration from as many countries as the U.S. or in such vast numbers. And Brazil doesn't make nearly as many films as the U.S. And what films they make are in a language that has not become the "second language" of so many countries and so would not be as readily understandable. "Melting pot" not quite as HOT or Violent as the "smelting pot" of the steel industry. 
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 10, 2017 23:35:23 GMT
I guess it's a bit like the sugar cereal of pop culture. Though too much makes you ill.
Being Canadian, I have a wicked homegrown culture to entertain me which remains unsexy to the rest of the planet.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Sept 11, 2017 0:08:25 GMT
is it the white women? or is american culture the most easily imitable? I would say that the IDEALIZED version of the American way of life presented in films would perhaps be the reason "we enjoy American culture so much." It sure looks like a swell place to live and even the bad stuff seems to have happy endings.
Dunno you, so am wondering if perhaps the inquiry is mainly intended for the out of the USA "we" crowd ? Your closing question is the first that occurred to me: just who is meant by "we?" Setting the question aside, your observations are profound ones, Bat. "America" as a concept has always been as much (if not more) about its aspirations as about its realities, of which petrolino's along with yours suggest another key component: rather than a cosmopolitan society, that ideal is of an absorptive one; many ingredients contributing to a blend from which, like a chef's recipe, a new and unique flavor emerges. And one which is eminently exportable. So entails what I'd call the third key component: marketing. No culture has pursued, embraced and promoted the capitalist model of worldwide salesmanship more aggressively than ours. And as a relatively young nation with only a brief history of its own, lacking the many centuries of indigenous history of others, a feature of that salesmanship has been an outward-looking aspect that's been especially notable in its films. From those of no other country can be found as long and varied a collection of explorations of cultures, countries and their histories from ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome to medieval or Victorian England, from Genghis Khan to Catherine the Great or Marco Polo and Queen Isabella to Louis XVI and Pancho Villa. In this peculiar way, America has made the cultures of other countries accessible to all, but filtered through an American prism. And alongside of which has always existed the marketing of those more contemporary ideals of America itself and its mythos. Throughout the 20th century, America's industrial-age preeminence and affluence gave not only its films but the larger culture they sought to both represent and influence an international foothold and presence that pervades to this day. "American exceptionalism" is an only recently popular term, but it embodies that "meta" concept of proactive and self-congratulatory salesmanship comprising at least as much of our ideals as it does our realities. Here at this particular time, it's open to each of us, no matter in which country we reside, to reach our own conclusions about the relative merits or perils of those circumstances. |
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