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Post by darkpast on Sept 10, 2017 3:59:14 GMT
Except with more jokes and more cgi.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 10, 2017 6:11:23 GMT
ALL sci-fi fantasy movies take influence from John Carter when you really think about it( Book is over a hundred years old).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 17:20:39 GMT
It looks like two hours of green screen hell. Verging on embarrassingly cartoonish. It's the definition of a flawed vision. And at this point it's hard to believe the creators take any pride in their work at all. I do wish they'd at least built a set for the gladiator match. Action scenes that take place in front of green screens just don't interest me. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 10, 2017 21:32:20 GMT
It looks like two hours of green screen hell. Verging on embarrassingly cartoonish. It's the definition of a flawed vision. And at this point it's hard to believe the creators take any pride in their work at all. It's called bringing the wondrousness of the comics to life. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 10, 2017 21:36:51 GMT
It looks like two hours of green screen hell. Verging on embarrassingly cartoonish. It's the definition of a flawed vision. And at this point it's hard to believe the creators take any pride in their work at all. It's called bringing the wondrousness of the comics to life. I wish these comics would bring the wondrousness of the underlying source material to life, ie the Ragnarök myth. I can live with CGI but not with a jokey rape of the Norse version of the Apocalypse.  |
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Post by politicidal on Sept 10, 2017 22:33:48 GMT
And John Carter, as much as I do like that movie, ripped off quite a bit from Star Wars - Episode II: Attack of the Clones
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 0:27:09 GMT
It looks like two hours of green screen hell. Verging on embarrassingly cartoonish. It's the definition of a flawed vision. And at this point it's hard to believe the creators take any pride in their work at all. It's called bringing the wondrousness of the comics to life. Which can be done without relying so heavily on green screen. Real sets would actually go a long way toward making the wondrousness more believable and memorable. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 11, 2017 0:40:53 GMT
And John Carter, as much as I do like that movie, ripped off quite a bit from Star Wars - Episode II: Attack of the Clones I think it is the other way around. Star Wars took ideas from John Carter. But because it had influenced other things, it didnt seem so fresh by the time the movie was made. It was a good effort but the lead was boring and too much Martian gibberish. However I think Disney deliberately sabotaged it because they did not want a movie with a white guy lead doing super hero things without any obvious neurosis or multicultural aid. Disney always spends millions on marketing-for them to screw up the marketing on this meant they wanted to because they were not interested in a sequel. Thor is different since they never portray him as totally in charge or smart and they make jokes about him. Unlike the situation in Masters of the Universe where He-Man was never on the receiving end of a joke. |
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 11, 2017 4:03:31 GMT
And John Carter, as much as I do like that movie, ripped off quite a bit from Star Wars - Episode II: Attack of the Clones I think it is the other way around. Star Wars took ideas from John Carter. But because it had influenced other things, it didnt seem so fresh by the time the movie was made. It was a good effort but the lead was boring and too much Martian gibberish. However I think Disney deliberately sabotaged it because they did not want a movie with a white guy lead doing super hero things without any obvious neurosis or multicultural aid. Disney always spends millions on marketing-for them to screw up the marketing on this meant they wanted to because they were not interested in a sequel. Thor is different since they never portray him as totally in charge or smart and they make jokes about him. Unlike the situation in Masters of the Universe where He-Man was never on the receiving end of a joke. aredo3604gif, is that you? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 11, 2017 9:37:04 GMT
It's called bringing the wondrousness of the comics to life. Which can be done without relying so heavily on green screen. Real sets would actually go a long way toward making the wondrousness more believable and memorable. I suppose you think that the Hulk should just be a some wrestler painted green as well, huh? |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Sept 11, 2017 9:57:35 GMT
And John Carter, as much as I do like that movie, ripped off quite a bit from Star Wars - Episode II: Attack of the Clones True, was just gonna say that, design wise some parts like the arena were spitting images from eg the EpII Geonosis arena. I even had the impression that they took the arena model built for EpII to reuse it in that Carter film, but that is nonsense considering Disney did not own Lucasfilm at that time.
Overall, Carter is of course a godfather franchise like Flash Gordon inspiring a lot of current franchises like SW. www.ign.com/articles/2012/02/17/without-john-carter-there-would-be-no-star-wars
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 12, 2017 15:01:17 GMT
It looks like John Carter because… There are gladiators fighting in an arena?
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Post by politicidal on Sept 12, 2017 16:07:17 GMT
It looks like John Carter because… There are gladiators fighting in an arena? And he's got a green best friend and a hot warrior chick as his love interest. |
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 12, 2017 17:48:22 GMT
It looks like John Carter because… There are gladiators fighting in an arena? And he's got a green best friend and a hot warrior chick as his love interest. oh, clearly it's a ripoff.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 22:28:11 GMT
Which can be done without relying so heavily on green screen. Real sets would actually go a long way toward making the wondrousness more believable and memorable. I suppose you think that the Hulk should just be a some wrestler painted green as well, huh? What a stupid response. Coldenhaulfeld was right about you. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 13, 2017 0:09:59 GMT
I suppose you think that the Hulk should just be a some wrestler painted green as well, huh? What a stupid response. Coldenhaulfeld was right about you. No, I just think this "It has to all be practical effects! No VFX of any kind!" attitude is wrong-headed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 1:23:41 GMT
What a stupid response. Coldenhaulfeld was right about you. No, I just think this "It has to all be practical effects! No VFX of any kind!" attitude is wrong-headed. And when exactly did I say that?? I believe CGI has its place and Hulk is a character that benefits greatly from CG. I do however also believe that excessive green screen is almost always bad. You're oversimplifying my position just to create an argument. Perhaps an example from the DCEU will allow you to see my point: Superman in the Arctic in MoS- Those scenes were filmed 100% in front of green screen and look completely ungeniune and fake. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 13, 2017 14:43:52 GMT
As far as FX go, I really don't care what kind they use. It's all in the execution and, most importantly, the story. I grew up watching stop motion animation, guys in rubber suits, iguanas that were supposed to be dinosaurs, and flying saucers hung on fishing lines and I loved all of it as long as the story was cool. So whether a movie is all practical effects or all CGI is completely irrelevant to my enjoyment of the movie.
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Post by mcufan on Sept 16, 2017 12:54:43 GMT
As far as FX go, I really don't care what kind they use. It's all in the execution and, most importantly, the story. I grew up watching stop motion animation, guys in rubber suits, iguanas that were supposed to be dinosaurs, and flying saucers hung on fishing lines and I loved all of it as long as the story was cool. So whether a movie is all practical effects or all CGI is completely irrelevant to my enjoyment of the movie. Exactly. Bringing up another Carter, agent Carter was cgi heavy and it looked gorgeous. If the cgi sets are well done, who cares? Another one is boardwalk empire, that was genuinely one of the heaviest cgi shows out there and it was amazing. There's so much cgi in the industry today that people don't even realize it. That's because cgi when done properly is invisible. As it should. With fantasy and sci-fi people just assume it's all cgi or no cgi at all based on how it looks. Mad Max fury road is super heavy on CGI. But people believe is all practical. It's not, it's mostly cgi. The other way around for Thor applies. People assume it's all cgi when it's not. They are actually using paintings for some scenes with Kirby themes. Star wars TFW was praised for being practical as was mad Max and they are both cgi heavy. Thor will be in those lines. |
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