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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 12, 2017 13:57:02 GMT
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 12, 2017 14:03:38 GMT
As a black woman who remembers when it was considered the worst thing you could call anyone, I still cringe when I hear the word. I don't use it. I don't allow anyone to address me as such. I don't care how iconic that word has become, I hate it, always have and always will. Those are my rules. As far as Madonna is concerned, as a white woman raising black children, she should exercise a lot more sensitivity and a lot more intelligence, but then again she is Madonna. No rules apply except of her own devising. As a white man who wasn't alive during that time period, even I cringe at the use of the word. I was never a fan of anyone using it. However, if it's used in the art to portray a particular point in history and how that word had a negative connotation, that doesn't bother me.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 13, 2017 16:41:11 GMT
BUT - what I am struggling to understand (and I watched countless talks on this, both serious and comedy) is why black people are "allowed" to use it, and furthermore continue to use it. In their regular talking, in the movies, in their comedy, generally in their art a lot. Mostly songs. So the word is in fact being immortalized by them. Also, why should some words be allowed to use only by a certain race? Its a fair question. What you're describing is a kind of double standard, even a hypocrisy, that African Americans themselves are struggling with. I hate to say this but it may more about class than race. Educated, more affluent, African Americans tend not to use the word. Using the word cavalierly seems to be more of a street level thing.
In any case, avoid using it yourself. No matter who uses it its original intent is to offend.
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Post by Nora on Sept 13, 2017 18:07:56 GMT
BUT - what I am struggling to understand
In any case, avoid using it yourself. No matter who uses it its original intent is to offend.
yeah, thats my plan too…
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Post by shangel on Sept 13, 2017 19:22:28 GMT
funny song, but not sure I wouldn't find it insulting if someone was comparing the use of the word ginger with the use of the N-word, given the history. but if your overall view is "only those that are from the group are allowed to use it" then my main gripe with that is still - should words really be assigned for use based on skin (or hair) color? Minchin is a stand up comic cum musician. the inspiration for the song was someone approaching him after a set in which he deconstructed and analyzed the word and threatening him with bodily harm if he ever used it on stage again. That's interesting, I didn't know that. I'm guessing that Tarantino didn't get the same threat? Or maybe he has for all I know. I'm assuming you've seen some of his movies? That man sure loves to put the n word in his scripts.
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