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Post by Carl LaFong on Oct 3, 2020 9:30:21 GMT
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 3, 2020 17:55:05 GMT
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Post by Carl LaFong on Oct 6, 2020 19:55:19 GMT
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Post by weststigersbob on Oct 7, 2020 11:48:56 GMT
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Post by weststigersbob on Oct 7, 2020 11:59:40 GMT
Honestly, I was disappointed that CA chose Justin Langer as head coach over Gillespie. Then again, knowing the kind of stiffs that reside in the corridors of CA and also the even stiffer stiffs that lurk around the NSWCA - no chance they’d select someone like Gillespie....
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Post by Carl LaFong on Oct 7, 2020 12:27:23 GMT
Honestly, I was disappointed that CA chose Justin Langer as head coach over Gillespie. Then again, knowing the kind of stiffs that reside in the corridors of CA and also the even stiffer stiffs that lurk around the NSWCA - no chance they’d select someone like Gillespie.... I wonder if England considered him as head coach.
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 7, 2020 16:28:17 GMT
Honestly, I was disappointed that CA chose Justin Langer as head coach over Gillespie. Then again, knowing the kind of stiffs that reside in the corridors of CA and also the even stiffer stiffs that lurk around the NSWCA - no chance they’d select someone like Gillespie.... I wonder if England considered him as head coach. One of my favourite JG stories. Because of his looks - with his hair, his Satan face fuzz and all round Gypsy fizzog - he was constantly being taunted by The Barmy Army with a song about "Where's your caravan, where's your caravan?" When prompted later on the tour he was quizzed about it and totally oblivious he said "what they on about, I don't have a caravan!" Amazing he turned out to be a great coach really... Joking apart, injury robbed Oz of many more wickets, a great bowler with a beautiful action. I shook his hand at Edgbaston once!
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 7, 2020 16:29:44 GMT
Not possible, I have never sailed that far - fractured a few laws in my time mind
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Post by Carl LaFong on Oct 8, 2020 5:09:36 GMT
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Post by weststigersbob on Oct 8, 2020 10:39:14 GMT
The Mankad is the most ridiculous part of cricket. How on earth anybody can call it “unsportsmanlike” is completely beyond me. The batsman is literally cheating, and the bowler is performing a totally legal act in dismissing the batsman. And yet, somehow, the bowler is in the wrong, and the non striker is to be given a warning ? What ? Why ? Now, I have a thought as to why. The truth is, cricket has long been beholden to this stupid idea that more runs and higher scores = better cricket. And this comes primarily (but not exclusively) from India. So all new interpretations of laws in the game and changes to the game favour batsmen. Every single time.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 17, 2020 13:43:58 GMT
ABD is still the best batsman in the world in the shorter format. Pity he didn't play the WC.
He is far greater player than his record suggests. The best of post Sachin, Lara and Ponting generation.
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Post by weststigersbob on Oct 17, 2020 14:19:07 GMT
ABD is still the best batsman in the world in the shorter format. Pity he didn't play the WC. He is far greater player than his record suggests. The best of post Sachin, Lara and Ponting generation. Royals bowled him some absolute pies though, especially Unadkat. Slowish cutters (that don’t cut) on middle just back of a length ? They got exactly what they deserved. RR should’ve kept Padikkal out there. He was struggling to middle anything.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 17, 2020 14:58:00 GMT
ABD is still the best batsman in the world in the shorter format. Pity he didn't play the WC. He is far greater player than his record suggests. The best of post Sachin, Lara and Ponting generation. Royals bowled him some absolute pies though, especially Unadkat. Slowish cutters (that don’t cut) on middle just back of a length ? They got exactly what they deserved. RR should’ve kept Padikkal out there. He was struggling to middle anything. I just write on whatsapp that it's a great shame that guys like Unadkat and Jadhav ever played international cricket. I have no idea why India keeps producing these utterly slow medium pacers. With good scouting and training you can always get fast bowlers in any country. People like Jadhav and Undatkat piss me off.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 17, 2020 17:20:09 GMT
I have no problem that cricket grounds are not standardised but there should be a minimum length for boundaries. 72 m at least. Extremely small grounds encourages bad batting and bad shots win against the bowlers.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Oct 22, 2020 18:38:55 GMT
Should probably talk about the possible crisis developing in South Africa. In short South African cricket is haemorraging not just white players, but money. The CSA lost 200 million rand last year, and expect to lose anywhere from 400-600 million rand this and, unlike Charles Foster Kane, can't sustain 60 years of these kinds of losses. Their domestic T20 league this year has been called off and they may not be able to have a domestic FC or List A season at all. Add to this that, in spite of meeting their 6:5 racial quotas last year, the CSA is looking to introduce even more radical quotas moving forward. The CSA and the SA Cricketer's Association are at loggerheads as a result.
But the last straw could be the South African sports minister wanting to get involved with the running of CSA. If that happebs they lose ICC funding, no questions asked, and will likely lose their ICC member status and be unable to play ICC sanctioned internationals. South Africa is turning into Zimbabwe in front of our eyes. Hopefully something will pull them back from this insanity but I doubt it.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Oct 27, 2020 19:34:03 GMT
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Post by weststigersbob on Oct 28, 2020 6:19:43 GMT
Should probably talk about the possible crisis developing in South Africa. In short South African cricket is haemorraging not just white players, but money. The CSA lost 200 million rand last year, and expect to lose anywhere from 400-600 million rand this and, unlike Charles Foster Kane, can't sustain 60 years of these kinds of losses. Their domestic T20 league this year has been called off and they may not be able to have a domestic FC or List A season at all. Add to this that, in spite of meeting their 6:5 racial quotas last year, the CSA is looking to introduce even more radical quotas moving forward. The CSA and the SA Cricketer's Association are at loggerheads as a result. But the last straw could be the South African sports minister wanting to get involved with the running of CSA. If that happebs they lose ICC funding, no questions asked, and will likely lose their ICC member status and be unable to play ICC sanctioned internationals. South Africa is turning into Zimbabwe in front of our eyes. Hopefully something will pull them back from this insanity but I doubt it. I can see this going absolutely pear shaped and ending very very badly. Once again though, the ICC has to have some amount of blood on its hands. The instant the quotas were to be introduced, the ICC should’ve suspended South Africa from international cricket. I know it’s a terrible term, but it is “reverse racism” in a nutshell. South Africa was suspended for 20 odd years because of Apartheid, but when the roles are reversed, the ICC did nothing. The Jacques Rudolph / Justin Ontong situation was poorly handled, and that was 18 years ago - and the quotas have been steadily rising ever since. A full member simply cannot have a system that picks players based on their race rather than their merit, regardless of the races involved. It is discrimination based on race. Racism. Plain and simple. As for CSA being taken over by a government body - I think a government has a right to step in and suspend operations of a sporting body that looks like it has serious corruption and maladministration charges against it and it’s chair and CEO. However, the RSA government running CSA won’t fly with the ICC as you said. Step in, sort the mess out, stop the bleeding, put in capable people, step out. If that happens, I think the ICC will be satisfied. The problem is, I can’t see it happening.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Oct 28, 2020 17:21:08 GMT
I'll try to find the Guardian article about cricket being a white priviledged sport (in spite of the fact that the overwhelming majority of players globally are from poor black nations) as it might be fun to read. I wonder how long before the Greens or similar niche left wing party mandates for quotas for Aboriginal players. You already had a senator (for a major party no less) stand up in Australian parliament and advocate for the end of 'gender segregation' in sports.
Another problem with the South African government stepping in to help CSA, isn't that kind of like Eddie Obied stepping in to help a maladministered mining company?
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Post by weststigersbob on Oct 28, 2020 23:41:32 GMT
I'll try to find the Guardian article about cricket being a white priviledged sport (in spite of the fact that the overwhelming majority of players globally are from poor black nations) as it might be fun to read. I wonder how long before the Greens or similar niche left wing party mandates for quotas for Aboriginal players. You already had a senator (for a major party no less) stand up in Australian parliament and advocate for the end of 'gender segregation' in sports. Another problem with the South African government stepping in to help CSA, isn't that kind of like Eddie Obied stepping in to help a maladministered mining company? www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/white-privileged-sport-australian-cricket-confronts-race-issues-20201023-p56834.htmlHere’s an article about it, and direct quotes from a ‘young aboriginal activist’ Sadler was asked by Jones if she saw cricket as an "inclusive" sport, in the reference to Andrew Symonds and Monkeygate. "That's a really good question, I guess no," Sadler said. "Even reflecting on that situation as well and seeing the image of Symmo. I was only a young girl but that was only the person other than other teams internationally that was the only person of colour I would see in an Australian side.
"As a young person growing up in Australia, we're supposed to be so multicultural and multifaceted, why is there very few people of coloured faces that are playing the sport?
"Predominantly, it is a very white privileged sport as well, like white society sport. At the end of the day as well, when these situations happen it can't be just a situation and nobody is learning from that.Language like this is very dangerous. “White Society Sport” ? There is absolutely no way known that can be true other than via perception. Artificially changing merit based selection to highlight perceived “diversity” is lunacy. And then we have this : "You can't celebrate Australia Day and then attend a Black Lives Matter rally. There is a line in between and you have to choose and really understand and educate yourselves on these issues that are happening in Australia since colonisation and the genocide that has happened and continues to happen to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island people."Yes, I’d love to hear about how the systemic and institutional racism against African Americans by police in the United States (resulting in people being murdered) has anything to do with a “genocide that has happened and continues to happen” in Australia against Indigenous Australians, and what this has to do with the diversity of the Australian cricket team. Talk about broad strokes.
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Post by weststigersbob on Oct 28, 2020 23:46:35 GMT
Another problem with the South African government stepping in to help CSA, isn't that kind of like Eddie Obied stepping in to help a maladministered mining company? More like Bernie Madoff being in charge of a bank, or Goebbels being named minister of information and Jewish Affairs......
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