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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 16:29:51 GMT
......the worst director in movie history? When I say "pound for pound," what I mean is - in relation to the amount of money directors are paid. e.g. Is Uwe Boll worse than Hack Snyder? Probably. But he doesn't get paid a shitzillion dollars to direct his crap. So pound for pound, Hack Snyder is worse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 17:50:29 GMT
I know you're trolling, but I'm going to give you an honest response.
Snyder isn't a bad filmmaker. There are different types of directors.
Some directors are great at taking a poorly written script and making the story better.
Some directors are great at taking a great script and actors and adapting it, but if you don't give them a strong script or actors, they aren't as good at making adjustments.
Some directors have a specific style, and they don't care if it is good or bad, they stick to it.
Snyder is the second one. His films "Dawn of the Dead", "Watchmen", "300", and "Man of Steel" are good films. It's when he tries to do his own thing where he messes up a lot.
I'd say if you give Snyder a good script with good actors, he can make a good film. His visuals are unique and well done.
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Post by King Conan on Sept 27, 2017 19:31:41 GMT
Wow. eattheeloi must be really the biggest loser here on this board. He only make posts and threads, to provoke a Marvel vs DC war everytime. His life must be really low.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 27, 2017 19:52:50 GMT
Wow. eattheeloi must be really the biggest loser here on this board. He only make posts and threads, to provoke a Marvel vs DC war everytime. His life must be really low. "loser" is quite the euphemism. Just imagine how frustrated and empty one must be to solely spill hate and faux schadenfreude all day. Just negativity and only negativity. A sorry little man, as he proves with each posting...
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Post by General Kenobi on Sept 27, 2017 21:43:55 GMT
Two words: Michael Bay.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Sept 27, 2017 23:11:05 GMT
Lol
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Sept 27, 2017 23:29:18 GMT
despite thinking he has mucked up the DCEU pretty badly i remain a fan. Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Sucker Punch are all good-great in my book. even Watchmen was a respectable attempt at a very difficult adaptation.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 28, 2017 4:49:16 GMT
......the worst director in movie history? When I say "pound for pound," what I mean is - in relation to the amount of money directors are paid. e.g. Is Uwe Boll worse than Hack Snyder? Probably. But he doesn't get paid a shitzillion dollars to direct his crap. So pound for pound, Hack Snyder is worse. Money doesn't mean anything, if you are a good director you are a good director and can effectively tell a story no matter what you get paid for or what amount you are working with. Now with that said Snyder's ability as a director varies from what script he is working with, what actors he's working with, and who's overseeing him. Either direction, he's got a taste for the visual. If he's working with a solid script he can deliver, if he's working with something that isn't, well at least it might look interesting.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 28, 2017 5:02:44 GMT
Two words: No way. Now Bay's not one who's going to be regarded as high as Kurosawa or Lean in the long run but if given the right motivation and a tight script he can deliver a solid film - The Rock is of the few Die Hard imitators that arguably stands toe to toe with it and last year's 13 Hours definitely showed that he can tell a straight serious story without going for popcorn fare.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 28, 2017 12:35:07 GMT
I disagree. I like Snyder as a director, especially his visuals. Does everything he do always work out? No of course not! But he's better than most *cough*Joss Whedon*cough* and he gave us two movies that stared hot half naked men and women, so gotta give him props for equality!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 19:43:25 GMT
I disagree. I like Snyder as a director, especially his visuals. Does everything he do always work out? No of course not! But he's better than most *cough*Joss Whedon*cough* and he gave us two movies that stared hot half naked men and women, so gotta give him props for equality! He is in no way better than Joss Whedon. For one thing, both of Whedon's superhero films are actually well-liked. Snyder is a special kind of incompetent. He fucked up both Superman and Batman to the point of being unrecognizable as Superman and Batman.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 28, 2017 19:51:18 GMT
I disagree. I like Snyder as a director, especially his visuals. Does everything he do always work out? No of course not! But he's better than most *cough*Joss Whedon*cough* and he gave us two movies that stared hot half naked men and women, so gotta give him props for equality! He is in no way better than Joss Whedon. For one thing, both of Whedon's superhero films are actually well-liked. Snyder is a special kind of incompetent. He fucked up both Superman and Batman to the point of being unrecognizable as Superman and Batman. The Avengers worked because of Joss's writing. Whedon a great writer, but not a great director (granted he doesn't have a lot of under his belt). Zack a great director, but not that great of a writer and as for the whole Superman and Batman controversy, I welcome new takes on classic characters.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 19:53:55 GMT
He is in no way better than Joss Whedon. For one thing, both of Whedon's superhero films are actually well-liked. Snyder is a special kind of incompetent. He fucked up both Superman and Batman to the point of being unrecognizable as Superman and Batman. The Avengers worked because of Joss's writing. Whedon a great writer, but not a great director (granted he doesn't have a lot of under his belt). Zack a great director, but not that great of a writer and as for the whole Superman and Batman controversy, I welcome new takes on classic characters. In order to be a great director, you HAVE to be a great teller. Snyder is not a story-teller. He should be making music videos and nothing else. You are no fan of Superman or Batman if you like these new gloomy, brooding, murderous versions of them.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 28, 2017 20:43:13 GMT
The Avengers worked because of Joss's writing. Whedon a great writer, but not a great director (granted he doesn't have a lot of under his belt). Zack a great director, but not that great of a writer and as for the whole Superman and Batman controversy, I welcome new takes on classic characters. In order to be a great director, you HAVE to be a great teller. Snyder is not a story-teller. He should be making music videos and nothing else. You are no fan of Superman or Batman if you like these new gloomy, brooding, murderous versions of them. Batman killed before in the comics. He also killed in Tim Burton films, he straight up murders The Joker! Hell an argument could be made that he has a bodycount in Nolan's trilogy. Also get the hell out of here with that "No true fan" bullshit!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 20:48:55 GMT
In order to be a great director, you HAVE to be a great teller. Snyder is not a story-teller. He should be making music videos and nothing else. You are no fan of Superman or Batman if you like these new gloomy, brooding, murderous versions of them. Batman killed before in the comics. He also killed in Tim Burton films, he straight up murders The Joker! Hell an argument could be made that he has a bodycount in Nolan's trilogy. Also get the hell out of here with that "No true fan" bullshit! I think I'll stay right here with my "No true fan" stance, thank you very much. The Tim Burton films were empty spectacle without any real understanding of the character, either, and it was a long, long time ago when he killed in the comics, before he was as defined as he is now. That's beside the point, though. There is no charm, warmth, or depth to either of Snyder's Superman or Batman. There's just nothing to either one. They walk through every scene frowning, brooding, grimacing, and snarling. These films completely ignore everything that made Superman and Batman likeable characters. Also, if these "fresh" new takes on both characters is SO good... how come WB is backing out of it as quickly as they can with promises of making both more like their classic versions?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 28, 2017 21:09:14 GMT
Batman killed before in the comics. He also killed in Tim Burton films, he straight up murders The Joker! Hell an argument could be made that he has a bodycount in Nolan's trilogy. Also get the hell out of here with that "No true fan" bullshit! I think I'll stay right here with my "No true fan" stance, thank you very much. The Tim Burton films were empty spectacle without any real understanding of the character, either, and it was a long, long time ago when he killed in the comics, before he was as defined as he is now. That's beside the point, though. There is no charm, warmth, or depth to either of Snyder's Superman or Batman. There's just nothing to either one. They walk through every scene frowning, brooding, grimacing, and snarling. These films completely ignore everything that made Superman and Batman likeable characters. Also, if these "fresh" new takes on both characters is SO good... how come WB is backing out of it as quickly as they can with promises of making both more like their classic versions? Obviously the new take didn't sit well with everyone. I liked it, others didn't. That's life. I thought Man of Steel was a nice approach, but fanboys still got Reeves cock in their mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 21:11:34 GMT
I think I'll stay right here with my "No true fan" stance, thank you very much. The Tim Burton films were empty spectacle without any real understanding of the character, either, and it was a long, long time ago when he killed in the comics, before he was as defined as he is now. That's beside the point, though. There is no charm, warmth, or depth to either of Snyder's Superman or Batman. There's just nothing to either one. They walk through every scene frowning, brooding, grimacing, and snarling. These films completely ignore everything that made Superman and Batman likeable characters. Also, if these "fresh" new takes on both characters is SO good... how come WB is backing out of it as quickly as they can with promises of making both more like their classic versions? Obviously the new take didn't sit well with everyone. I liked it, others didn't. That's life. I thought Man of Steel was a nice approach, but fanboys still got Reeves cock in their mouth. Yes, it couldn't possibly be that Christopher Reeve is just a better Superman.[/sarcasm]
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Post by sostie on Sept 29, 2017 12:33:29 GMT
He made Dawn Of The Dead, 300 and Watchmen...no he is not the worst
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 16:34:38 GMT
He made Dawn Of The Dead, 300 and Watchmen...no he is not the worst People using 300 and Watchmen as examples of Snyder making good movies are failing to appreciate that all he achieved was the downgrading of source material. Unforgivably in the case of Watchmen.
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Post by sostie on Sept 29, 2017 16:39:22 GMT
He made Dawn Of The Dead, 300 and Watchmen...no he is not the worst People using 300 and Watchmen as examples of Snyder making good movies are failing to appreciate that all he achieved was the downgrading of source material. Unforgivably in the case of Watchmen. Yet for me he made adaptations better than I would have ever expected from the source material
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