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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 30, 2017 4:52:38 GMT
other cbms which were just as good if not better were snubbed then yeah, there's a problem. No, there isn't a problem. You keep forgetting that when TDK was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar nomination in 2008, the Academy nominated only 5 movies for Best Picture. If the 5-movie rule was still in effect now, then Wonder Woman most likely wouldn't be nominated.
But after TDK was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar nomination in 2008, the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 starting with the 2009 award year. If the 10-movie rule had been in effect in 2008, TDK most likely would've been nominated. And that 10-movie rule being in effect now is 1 of the biggest reasons why Wonder Woman has a very good chance to be nominated for Best Picture.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 30, 2017 4:56:32 GMT
As for Wonder Woman as best film..if that got nominated for BP and Logan didn't it would be a travesty No, it wouldn't be a travesty. The Academy isn't going to nominate 2 CBMs in the same year so only 1 of them would get a nomination. Wonder Woman checks off more of the boxes that the Academy looks for when considering movies for Best Picture than Logan does. Not even close, jackhole. Wonder Woman was a run of a mill origin film that we've seen a hundred times. Logan was something completely different. A strong character driven film with strong themes to it. What more does Wonder Woman possibly check off than Logan. Seriously, for once, instead of running like a bitch, how about you actually answer my question if you can
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 30, 2017 4:59:06 GMT
I'm don't mean that in a bad way as I'm a feminist myself. But politics/pandering to current Liberal agenda need to stay out of the Oscars. I think it's great that Patty Jenkins, who had very little in her roster other than Monster, was able to make a successful almost 200million dollar film and become the biggest summer hit ever! But does that really warrant Best Director? What does that have to do with how she directed and filmed the movie?? There were only a few scenes that were noticeable and well shot like the No-Man land scene, but beyond that, the blue tint isn't anything new and there are some very obvious scenes of CGI. Same thing with Best Picture. I think it's great Gal Gadot really brought the character to life. I absolutely adore her and I thoroughly enjoyed her journey of being naive at first and everything and it's a fun film to watch, but tell how ot really warrant Best Picture beyond that it's such a huge achievement for female actresses?! A Best Picture film has to be almost perfect from start to end. How is Ares so great? What was so amazing about the CGI stuff in sky/CGI fire in the 3rd act that we haven't seen before in other superhero films?? All it is, is just partisan politics. If it does get a nomination, then great, I got nothing against that, but no one can sit here and argue that Wonder Woman is a masterpiece and partisanship and tokenism would play a big part in why it got nominated or even won. Wonder Woman isn't even the best CBM of this year. Yes, it is. RT ranks Wonder Woman as not only the best CBM this year but the best CBM of any year: 50 Best Superhero Movies of All Time
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 30, 2017 5:04:05 GMT
Wonder Woman isn't even the best CBM of this year. Yes, it is. RT ranks Wonder Woman as not only the best CBM this year but the best CBM of any year: 50 Best Superhero Movies of All Time
Are you a sheep that just blindly agrees to RottenTomatoes? You hate every single MCU movie, so I guess you're just one stupid sheep.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 30, 2017 12:15:58 GMT
You know looking at the thread title, I can't help but think of the Jessica Jones boards and how it was filled with post about it being a "Feminist agenda" show and how it was pushing for white genocide because of the interracial sex scene lol.
I miss old imdb crazies, including odcum.
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Post by sostie on Sept 30, 2017 12:16:04 GMT
As for Wonder Woman as best film..if that got nominated for BP and Logan didn't it would be a travesty No, it wouldn't be a travesty. The Academy isn't going to nominate 2 CBMs in the same year so only 1 of them would get a nomination. Wonder Woman checks off more of the boxes that the Academy looks for when considering movies for Best Picture than Logan does. Explain. What "boxes"?
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 30, 2017 12:28:44 GMT
Wonder Woman isn't even the best CBM of this year. Yes, it is. RT ranks Wonder Woman as not only the best CBM this year but the best CBM of any year: 50 Best Superhero Movies of All Time
And every MCU film is on that list, plus, higher than Man of Steel, BvS and Suicide Squad. Can't pick and choose, jackhole. If you do, you lose the argument
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 30, 2017 12:40:30 GMT
WW was a very good comic book film, the only one I saw twice in theaters this year, but there is almost no chance of it getting any nominations at the level of best picture. Maybe director, but probably not that, either.
That the suits at Warner Brothers are pushing for recognition is just a way to solidify the prestige of the picture in the minds of their peers, because what Patty Jenkins did in terms of proving women can make big budget action films that go on to critical raves and crazy financial success is frankly very important. If she gets nominated at all, it will be as an acknowledgment for this, but there is no possible way she would win or deserve to win. Seeking such an acknowledgment is not going to be seen as advancing a "liberal agenda" by anyone with any sense or human decency.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 14:48:42 GMT
WW was a very good comic book film, the only one I saw twice in theaters this year, but there is almost no chance of it getting any nominations at the level of best picture. Maybe director, but probably not that, either. That the suits at Warner Brothers are pushing for recognition is just a way to solidify the prestige of the picture in the minds of their peers, because what Patty Jenkins did in terms of proving women can make big budget action films that go on to critical raves and crazy financial success is frankly very important. If she gets nominated at all, it will be as an acknowledgment for this, but there is no possible way she would win or deserve to win. Seeking such an acknowledgment is not going to be seen as advancing a "liberal agenda" by anyone with any sense or human decency. The Oscars should be without agenda. When compiling a shortlist for "Best Movie," the only concern should be the relative merits of each of the potential selections as movies....nothing more. If that is the case then Wonder Woman won't be reveiving an Oscar nomination. If the nominations have become a circus, more concerned with sound bites and increased public profile than artistic integrity then it probably will.
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 30, 2017 14:59:10 GMT
When compiling a shortlist for "Best Movie," the only concern should be the relative merits of each of the potential selections as movies....nothing more. There is a great deal of fluidity to what "merit" actually means. Sometimes a film, or a director, or a writer, or an actor, does something mildly remarkable at just the right time in film history and in this case "merits" at least an acknowledgment in the form of a nomination even though it will never win. I don't think WW "merits" a best picture nomination, but Jenkins might "merit" a nomination for her historical achievement though I don't think she should or will win. I actually don't think WW should or will win anything outside of awards given by science fiction and fantasy organizations.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 30, 2017 17:32:12 GMT
other cbms which were just as good if not better were snubbed then yeah, there's a problem. No, there isn't a problem. You keep forgetting that when TDK was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar nomination in 2008, the Academy nominated only 5 movies for Best Picture. If the 5-movie rule was still in effect now, then Wonder Woman most likely wouldn't be nominated.
But after TDK was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar nomination in 2008, the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 starting with the 2009 award year. If the 10-movie rule had been in effect in 2008, TDK most likely would've been nominated. And that 10-movie rule being in effect now is 1 of the biggest reasons why Wonder Woman has a very good chance to be nominated for Best Picture.
If that was true then movies like Avengers, Logan, The Winter Soldier and Days of Future Past should have all been at least nominated. All of them are better movies than WW, were more ground breakin, and ticked more boxes than WW. But here's an easy way to cross check WW. If that movie had cast a male lead and was directed by a male director, do you think it would still be an Oscar nominee?
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Sept 30, 2017 18:12:31 GMT
i wouldn't mind ticking Gal Gadot's box.
...if you know what i mean.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 30, 2017 18:20:37 GMT
No, there isn't a problem. You keep forgetting that when TDK was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar nomination in 2008, the Academy nominated only 5 movies for Best Picture. If the 5-movie rule was still in effect now, then Wonder Woman most likely wouldn't be nominated.
But after TDK was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar nomination in 2008, the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 starting with the 2009 award year. If the 10-movie rule had been in effect in 2008, TDK most likely would've been nominated. And that 10-movie rule being in effect now is 1 of the biggest reasons why Wonder Woman has a very good chance to be nominated for Best Picture.
If that was true then movies like Avengers, Logan, The Winter Soldier and Days of Future Past should have all been at least nominated. None of them were as good as Wonder Woman.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Sept 30, 2017 18:37:57 GMT
No, there isn't a problem. You keep forgetting that when TDK was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar nomination in 2008, the Academy nominated only 5 movies for Best Picture. If the 5-movie rule was still in effect now, then Wonder Woman most likely wouldn't be nominated.
But after TDK was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar nomination in 2008, the Academy increased the maximum nominations for Best Picture to 10 starting with the 2009 award year. If the 10-movie rule had been in effect in 2008, TDK most likely would've been nominated. And that 10-movie rule being in effect now is 1 of the biggest reasons why Wonder Woman has a very good chance to be nominated for Best Picture.
If that was true then movies like Avengers, Logan, The Winter Soldier and Days of Future Past should have all been at least nominated. All of them are better movies than WW, were more ground breakin, and ticked more boxes than WW. But here's an easy way to cross check WW. If that movie had cast a male lead and was directed by a male director, do you think it would still be an Oscar nominee? Apple and oranges, really. I think you should recheck you writing theory and quality control classes. WW is film about the human condition, error and war horrors. The movies you name are mostly cartoons about coming to blows with Hail Hydra screaming pseudo-Nazis, generic cardboard aliens and evil robot. For what should these even be nominated...? The only one on your list worthy of an award would be Logan, especially for the lead performance.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 30, 2017 19:34:03 GMT
If that was true then movies like Avengers, Logan, The Winter Soldier and Days of Future Past should have all been at least nominated. All of them are better movies than WW, were more ground breakin, and ticked more boxes than WW. But here's an easy way to cross check WW. If that movie had cast a male lead and was directed by a male director, do you think it would still be an Oscar nominee? Apple and oranges, really. I think you should recheck you writing theory and quality control classes. WW is film about the human condition, error and war horrors. The movies you name are mostly cartoons about coming to blows with Hail Hydra screaming pseudo-Nazis, generic cardboard aliens and evil robot. For what should these even be nominated...? The only one on your list worthy of an award would be Logan, especially for the lead performance. yea basically. Ww is classically written with a message without the usual kiddy clobbering and excessive action, with political milestones and a public media sensation . The academy likes that, not saying all will come to fruition but we have all the ingredients of a nom or even winner here unlike with the other cbms.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2017 7:26:34 GMT
If that was true then movies like Avengers, Logan, The Winter Soldier and Days of Future Past should have all been at least nominated. None of them were as good as Wonder Woman.
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All four of them honestly put Wonder Woman to shame. I'd throw The Dark Knight, Batman Begins, Civil War, Watchmen, First Class, V for Vendetta, Iron Man, GOTG, and X2 in as well.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 1, 2017 8:09:12 GMT
All four of them honestly put Wonder Woman to shame. Nope. Like Jedan Archer wrote, those movies "are mostly cartoons about coming to blows with Hail Hydra screaming pseudo-Nazis, generic cardboard aliens and evil robot." None of them are Oscar-worthy material. Wonder Woman is a much better movie than all of those movies.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 1, 2017 11:39:55 GMT
All four of them honestly put Wonder Woman to shame. Nope. Like Jedan Archer wrote, those movies "are mostly cartoons about coming to blows with Hail Hydra screaming pseudo-Nazis, generic cardboard aliens and evil robot." None of them are Oscar-worthy material. Wonder Woman is a much better movie than all of those movies. Nah, WW just had artificial boosts from being a decent film after failures and the Anti-Sexism Shield. All that stuff Jedan says is because he's ashamed of comic books. WW had her end up fighting a CGI Englishman.
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