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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 3, 2017 15:49:23 GMT
"Do Led Zeppelin deserve all the praise?"
Yes, and then some. There was something unbelievably magical and completely unique about the chemistry those particular four guys had with each other.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 3, 2017 16:51:34 GMT
No one listens to Led Zeppelin for the lyrics. This. Like them or not they sure could lay down a good groove. Strange, both the lyrics and the music comes out of my speakers/headphones. How the hell can you miss Plant screaming a nugget like "Hey, hey baby when you walk that way, Watch your honey drip, I can't keep away". I still love LZ, but they could have put a little more effort into the lyrics.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 3, 2017 16:55:41 GMT
This. Like them or not they sure could lay down a good groove. Strange, both the lyrics and the music comes out of my speakers/headphones. How the hell can you miss Plant screaming a nugget like "Hey, hey baby when you walk that way, Watch your honey drip, I can't keep away". I still love LZ, but they could have put a little more effort into the lyrics. I don't normally semantically parse lyrics when I listen to music. I'm concentrating fully on music. So with vocals, I'm concentrating on melody, timbre, phrasing, etc. I don't really care what the lyrics are on a semantic level, which is why it doesn't make a difference to me if the lyrics are in a different language. The only exception is with comedy-oriented stuff. And stuff like Laurie Anderson or Ken Nordine, which is focused on storytelling, where it's like spoken-word stuff accompanied by music (though I couldn't care less about the lyrics in most hip-hop). But normally I don't care about the semantic content of lyrics and I simply turn that part of my mind off when it comes to music . . . or at least I focus on the musical part so much that that part is pushed out of the way. In fact, I have to concentrate in a very unusual way for me with most music to even understand most lyrics in terms of natural language content, partially because my brain automatically switches to hear it simply as a flow of sounds without meaning. I like music because I like the art of making "aural sculptures that unfold through time"--structures of pitches, rhythms, timbres, etc. That's all I really care about with music, and I really, really like aural sculptures.
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Post by theshape25 on Oct 3, 2017 19:42:08 GMT
This. Like them or not they sure could lay down a good groove. Strange, both the lyrics and the music comes out of my speakers/headphones. How the hell can you miss Plant screaming a nugget like "Hey, hey baby when you walk that way, Watch your honey drip, I can't keep away". I still love LZ, but they could have put a little more effort into the lyrics. I do agree with you that the lyrics weren't Zeppelin's strong suit. It probably would have been nicer if Plant could have provided a little more depth in the lyrics he wrote, but I think the fact that I'm a guitar player, I pay more attention to the riff that Page is playing and the way Bonham and Jones are interacting with each other on bass and drums. For me Zeppelin was all about the groove they laid down. Plant could have been singing about putting a swing set on layaway at K-Mart and I wouldn't have cared.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 3, 2017 19:48:37 GMT
Regardless of what Plant was singing, he's such a fantastic vocalist--my favorite, in fact.
He could sing the phone book and make it amazing.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 3, 2017 20:23:51 GMT
Strange, both the lyrics and the music comes out of my speakers/headphones. How the hell can you miss Plant screaming a nugget like "Hey, hey baby when you walk that way, Watch your honey drip, I can't keep away". I still love LZ, but they could have put a little more effort into the lyrics. I don't normally semantically parse lyrics when I listen to music. I'm concentrating fully on music. So with vocals, I'm concentrating on melody, timbre, phrasing, etc. I don't really care what the lyrics are on a semantic level, which is why it doesn't make a difference to me if the lyrics are in a different language. The only exception is with comedy-oriented stuff. And stuff like Laurie Anderson or Ken Nordine, which is focused on storytelling, where it's like spoken-word stuff accompanied by music (though I couldn't care less about the lyrics in most hip-hop). But normally I don't care about the semantic content of lyrics and I simply turn that part of my mind off when it comes to music . . . or at least I focus on the musical part so much that that part is pushed out of the way. In fact, I have to concentrate in a very unusual way for me with most music to even understand most lyrics in terms of natural language content, partially because my brain automatically switches to hear it simply as a flow of sounds without meaning. I like music because I like the art of making "aural sculptures that unfold through time"--structures of pitches, rhythms, timbres, etc. That's all I really care about with music, and I really, really like aural sculptures. Similar. Sometimes lyrics poke their way through to my consciousness. And it can be in a song I've heard many times. Typically when I have headphones on, or I'm driving at night.
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Post by mrellaguru on Oct 3, 2017 20:35:22 GMT
Yes.
The only reason they get flack is that they didn't sufficiently credit their sources, but that ethical oversight doesn't make their music any worse.
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 4, 2017 15:14:01 GMT
tpfkar This. Like them or not they sure could lay down a good groove. Strange, both the lyrics and the music comes out of my speakers/headphones. How the hell can you miss Plant screaming a nugget like "Hey, hey baby when you walk that way, Watch your honey drip, I can't keep away". I still love LZ, but they could have put a little more effort into the lyrics. I loves me some campy lyrics. I don't know, but I've been told, a peglegged woman ain't got no toes. Whiskers!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 1:03:34 GMT
Never found them interesting... That wasn't the question....
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 5, 2017 1:24:55 GMT
One time I had an awkward moment at a Magic Cuts establishment. I was not served for a half hour and the manager came in and when she saw i had not been seated she did my hair herself and she made a joke about an oldies concert revival with the punchline of:
"Led Zeppelin."
I dont know what the joke was so i didn't smile.
I was a classical music fan myself. The most I knew about contemporary music was ABBA or Johnny Cash or Boney M thanks to other family members' music choices.
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Post by shannondegroot on Oct 5, 2017 4:08:10 GMT
Absolutely.
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Post by johnspartan on Oct 5, 2017 4:30:48 GMT
Great band, but Page's penchant for remorseless thievery is disturbing.
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Post by needysboy on Oct 6, 2017 20:25:04 GMT
Yes, I think they have a sort of "timeless" sound. If you play many of the band's songs they do not sound 70s; whereas many other songs from the era sound dated -- you can tell instantly that they're 70s songs.
Excellent musicians too.
I ignore all the plagiarism stuff -- didn't old Blues musicians lift licks from each other all the time? This plagiarism stuff is just lawyers that smell money like flies after carrion.
[Grammar/usage note: Led Zeppelin is one band of four men that performed as one unit, so I think it's singular. "Led Zeppelin is composed of four members" not "Led Zeppelin are composed of four members."]
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