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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 30, 2017 8:54:27 GMT
Enjoy. Disclaimer: The usual. My thoughts: The part I found most interesting here is when he said the bar code tattoo was rejected because 1) it cannot contain as much information as the RFID, and 2) it is not upgradable. It reminded me of those times when I got a message saying that my computer needed updates and asking me to give my permission. So conceivably, an RFID chip might be benign once implanted in a human body, yet it could be updated to something sinister later on, and without any nice and polite forewarning like my home computer does, yes?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 1, 2017 8:40:58 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 1, 2017 9:36:09 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 4, 2017 7:23:46 GMT
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Post by scienceisgod on Oct 5, 2017 21:03:43 GMT
Good way for rich people to cement class distinction. Pro-science anti-philosophy liberals will love it.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 6, 2017 7:21:24 GMT
Good way for rich people to cement class distinction. Pro-science anti-philosophy liberals will love it. Agreed. Possibly the ruling class in the future will have a forehead implant to distinguish them from the slave class with the right hand implant. That's when the liberals are going to find out that they're not as special as they thought they were, because it won't be available to them, no matter how much they may have done for "the Cause." People have posted their dreams and visions about the topic of microchip implants, but I wanted to take Sergeant Joe Friday's "just the facts" approach with this thread. Of course, that pretty much guaranteed it would get no replies from the board heathens. If they could deny this is happening, they would do so, but they can't deny it. In case you haven't heard, the microchip is now mandatory for all new ATM cards. My card quit working a few months ago, so I went to my credit union for a replacement. I expected it to be like the other times and I would have to take out a couple hundred bucks in cash to tide me over until the new card arrived by snail mail. To my great surprise, the teller walked away for a couple of minutes and came back with my card, complete with microchip. No more cards without microchips from now on. They are a thing of the past, like pay phones. Now, if you still have an old card without the microchip, you can still use it at an ATM, but you can't use it to make purchases. This is how the technology is being forced on the populace.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 8, 2017 0:53:43 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 21, 2017 9:01:23 GMT
Not only upgradable, but quite hackable. Isn't that nice? Can't get that many features with a bar code tattoo, yes? If I remember correctly (which is in doubt because I'm just such a damn drunk), the implantable RFID is injected with the same needle used for body piercing (14-guage I think) and it was originally used for pets and livestock. We (the human race, aka the Herd) are livestock, although most of us have a huge problem admitting it, but I digress. Now, if the bar code tattoo was rejected because it was not upgradable, and if the RFID implant answers only one question (Am I who I say I am?), I keep wondering why the answer to that question would ever need to be upgraded. Are you ever going to wake up some morning and be someone else other than who you were the previous day? Any thoughts on this are welcome, as there might be some information that I have not as yet collated.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 21, 2017 21:27:32 GMT
If you want to run with the pack, you've got to wear the brand.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 12, 2017 10:10:22 GMT
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Post by Deadblowhammer on Nov 12, 2017 10:32:48 GMT
Not only upgradable, but quite hackable. Isn't that nice? Can't get that many features with a bar code tattoo, yes? If I remember correctly (which is in doubt because I'm just such a damn drunk), the implantable RFID is injected with the same needle used for body piercing (14-guage I think) and it was originally used for pets and livestock. We (the human race, aka the Herd) are livestock, although most of us have a huge problem admitting it, but I digress. Now, if the bar code tattoo was rejected because it was not upgradable, and if the RFID implant answers only one question (Am I who I say I am?), I keep wondering why the answer to that question would ever need to be upgraded. Are you ever going to wake up some morning and be someone else other than who you were the previous day? Any thoughts on this are welcome, as there might be some information that I have not as yet collated. There's bit more to it than 'I am who I say I am'. Depending on the application the chip could contain changing data much like the chip in your credit/card or medical data. After all a micro chip is a minicomputer. One of the ways they make them secure is by having a challenge code. Your cellular phone operates on the same principle.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 12, 2017 10:39:10 GMT
Not only upgradable, but quite hackable. Isn't that nice? Can't get that many features with a bar code tattoo, yes? If I remember correctly (which is in doubt because I'm just such a damn drunk), the implantable RFID is injected with the same needle used for body piercing (14-guage I think) and it was originally used for pets and livestock. We (the human race, aka the Herd) are livestock, although most of us have a huge problem admitting it, but I digress. Now, if the bar code tattoo was rejected because it was not upgradable, and if the RFID implant answers only one question (Am I who I say I am?), I keep wondering why the answer to that question would ever need to be upgraded. Are you ever going to wake up some morning and be someone else other than who you were the previous day? Any thoughts on this are welcome, as there might be some information that I have not as yet collated. There's bit more to it than 'I am who I say I am'. Depending on the application the chip could contain changing data much like the chip in your credit/card or medical data. After all a micro chip is a minicomputer. One of the ways they make them secure is by having a challenge code. Your cellular phone operates on the same principle. No, it doesn't, because I don't have a cellular phone. I had the chance to invest in cellular back in the 1990's. They sent me pictures. The first cell phones looked like a brick with an antenna. You can pull up images on the Web if you don't believe me. I turned it down because I thought it would be hot new fad for a few months and then go away. Boy was I wrong.
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Post by Deadblowhammer on Nov 12, 2017 10:53:45 GMT
I'm familiar with the "Brick". I was using the general you not the specific you in that example.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 12, 2017 10:58:49 GMT
I'm familiar with the "Brick". I was using the general you not the specific you in that example. Given a world where there is only one World Wide Web, why wouldn't the bar code tattoo be feasible? It's as individual as a fingerprint, yes?
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Post by Deadblowhammer on Nov 12, 2017 11:05:09 GMT
The benefit of the chip is it is much more secure than a simple magnetic strip or a simple bar code. It'd be rather simple to duplicate someones bar code tattoo with over the counter technology. The microchip would be able to use variable data while the tattoo couldn't.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 12, 2017 11:12:58 GMT
The benefit of the chip is it is much more secure than a simple magnetic strip or a simple bar code. It'd be rather simple to duplicate someones bar code tattoo with over the counter technology. The microchip would be able to use variable data while the tattoo couldn't. The chip is hackable, but personally I'd be less worried about a criminal hacking it than an involuntary upgrade by the ones who gave it to me.
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Post by Deadblowhammer on Nov 12, 2017 13:17:38 GMT
Microchips are a little more than a storage device combined with a radio. It's purpose is to simply receive and transmit data from internal storage to the external receiver/transmitter. They're not hackable. The data might be but not while it's stored within the device.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 12, 2017 20:09:22 GMT
Microchips are a little more than a storage device combined with a radio. It's purpose is to simply receive and transmit data from internal storage to the external receiver/transmitter. They're not hackable. The data might be but not while it's stored within the device. No offense intended, but you're wrong. It's hackable. www.zdnet.com/article/microchip-hack-absolutely-a-worry/
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 15, 2017 18:07:13 GMT
Hey, Vegas Devil, here's one for you. You like polls, right? You believe in majority rule, right?
If sixty percent of the world population had these things implanted in their hands, and another thirty percent agreed that having them should be mandatory for every human on earth, and the remaining ten percent did not want them, would you support the right of the ten percent to not be implanted?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 0:56:39 GMT
Hey, Vegas Devil, here's one for you. You like polls, right? You believe in majority rule, right? Does anybody actually believe in majority rule? I mean, qualified majority rule, sure. But just majority rule? Has there ever been a single country that even tried it? Of course. Wouldn't everybody?
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