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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 0:57:30 GMT
The benefit of the chip is it is much more secure than a simple magnetic strip or a simple bar code. It'd be rather simple to duplicate someones bar code tattoo with over the counter technology. The microchip would be able to use variable data while the tattoo couldn't. The chip is hackable, but personally I'd be less worried about a criminal hacking it than an involuntary upgrade by the ones who gave it to me. And what would this hypothetical involuntary upgrade do, exactly? Would it do anything that couldn't be done without the chip?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 16, 2017 7:58:26 GMT
The chip is hackable, but personally I'd be less worried about a criminal hacking it than an involuntary upgrade by the ones who gave it to me. And what would this hypothetical involuntary upgrade do, exactly? Would it do anything that couldn't be done without the chip? For one thing, it could be upgraded to not work anymore, thus preventing someone from buying or selling in a "cashless" society. Duh!
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 16, 2017 8:02:49 GMT
Hey, Vegas Devil, here's one for you. You like polls, right? You believe in majority rule, right? Does anybody actually believe in majority rule? I mean, qualified majority rule, sure. But just majority rule? Has there ever been a single country that even tried it? Of course. Wouldn't everybody? No, everybody wouldn't. Looks as if Vegas doesn't want to comment, except to ask questions like, "You do know how democracies work, right?" How democracies work is neither here nor there. We do not have a democracy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 10:10:55 GMT
Does anybody actually believe in majority rule? I mean, qualified majority rule, sure. But just majority rule? Has there ever been a single country that even tried it? Of course. Wouldn't everybody? No, everybody wouldn't. Such as...? No, you don't. For which you should be thankful, given what a horrible system of government a straight democracy would be. What you have is a limited democracy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 10:11:21 GMT
Does anybody actually believe in majority rule? I mean, qualified majority rule, sure. But just majority rule? Has there ever been a single country that even tried it? Of course. Wouldn't everybody? No, everybody wouldn't. Looks as if Vegas doesn't want to comment, except to ask questions like, "You do know how democracies work, right?" How democracies work is neither here nor there. We do not have a democracy. Oh, the horror.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2017 7:28:33 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2017 7:30:03 GMT
Such as...? No, you don't. For which you should be thankful, given what a horrible system of government a straight democracy would be. What you have is a limited democracy. Too limited.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 19:46:17 GMT
Such as...? No, you don't. For which you should be thankful, given what a horrible system of government a straight democracy would be. What you have is a limited democracy. Too limited. And which particular constitutional limits on government power would you like to see removed? Or maybe you'd like to scrap government altogether and run things via referendum on every issue?
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Post by Cinemachinery on Nov 18, 2017 19:49:07 GMT
"Anonymous" is not a thing.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2017 19:50:49 GMT
"Anonymous" is not a thing. What are you barking at now?
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Post by Cinemachinery on Nov 18, 2017 19:54:06 GMT
"Anonymous" is not a thing. What are you barking at now? Anonymous is not a cohesive, organized or uniform group. People just make videos and slap on "Anonymous". Yewtewb.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2017 19:54:22 GMT
And which particular constitutional limits on government power would you like to see removed? Or maybe you'd like to scrap government altogether and run things via referendum on every issue? Did I say I wanted any constitutional limits on government power removed? BTW, I tried to solve your question on the INTK board but haven't found anything yet. Sorry. Thought it might be an episode of Roald Dahl's Tales of the Unexpected.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2017 19:55:19 GMT
What are you barking at now? Anonymous is not a cohesive, organized or uniform group. People just make videos and slap on "Anonymous". Yewtewb. What parts of the "Anonymous" video do you disagree with?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 20:45:12 GMT
And which particular constitutional limits on government power would you like to see removed? Or maybe you'd like to scrap government altogether and run things via referendum on every issue? Did I say I wanted any constitutional limits on government power removed? No. That's why I asked. To find out if you did. You want a more direct democracy, yes? In what way? Thank you kindly for the effort. I've been googling like mad and found nothing yet.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2017 20:48:48 GMT
Did I say I wanted any constitutional limits on government power removed? No. That's why I asked. To find out if you did. You want a more direct democracy, yes? In what way? Thank you kindly for the effort. I've been googling like mad and found nothing yet. You are welcome. Ironjade might be able to identify it. He's British, and there's some British TV programming which is never shown here in the states.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 20:52:07 GMT
No. That's why I asked. To find out if you did. You want a more direct democracy, yes? In what way? Thank you kindly for the effort. I've been googling like mad and found nothing yet. You are welcome. Ironjade might be able to identify it. He's British, and there's some British TV programming which is never shown here in the states. Aha! I found it! Will post in that thread.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2017 20:52:13 GMT
Dr. Oz says the RFID implant might be the next big thing. Unfortunately, I think he's right. A fair amount of R & D went into making the chip implantable, and I can't imagine the scenario in which someone made an investment without expecting a profitable return. That's why a Mythbusters episode about the RFID ain't gonna happen. We won't see it. We'll see happy, upbeat, positive stuff like this instead:
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Post by Cinemachinery on Nov 18, 2017 21:18:06 GMT
Anonymous is not a cohesive, organized or uniform group. People just make videos and slap on "Anonymous". Yewtewb. What parts of the "Anonymous" video do you disagree with? I don't eat Happy Meals. Even when the toy surprise is a Guy Fawkes mask.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2017 21:28:07 GMT
What parts of the "Anonymous" video do you disagree with? I don't eat Happy Meals. Even when the toy surprise is a Guy Fawkes mask. Is that the Cinemachinery way of saying the information presented was false?
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Nov 19, 2017 0:03:56 GMT
Of course. Wouldn't everybody? Not necessarily. If 90% of the population thinks something is a really good idea and is necessary to "make the world a better place" then can't you see a situation where they would feel justified in forcing the remaining 10% to comply regardless of how they felt? Take a comparable example - say there was a marked increase of terrorist attacks/illegal aliens committing crimes/whatever in a country and it was decided that one tactic to help crack down on suspects was to have everyone carry a government issued ID card on them at all times which they would be required to show on demand to any law enforcement agent. And that the overwhelming proportion of the population supported this and were happy to comply with this, but a tiny minority didn't want to and refused to carry the ID cards or have anything to do with them. First of all, could you imagine this scenario being at all possible in a country? And if it did, would you say that the tiny minority that refused to carry the ID cards were well within their rights to refuse and should face no sanctions?
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