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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 8, 2017 9:37:56 GMT
You saying the Shi'ar wasn't a part of it? Or that they came from the moon? Independence Day, War of The Worlds, The Thing are not regarded as intergalactic adventures either. Because of their setting. ID4 actually is. War of the Worlds are Martians. The Thing is an unknown. Just because the heroes don't leave the galaxy doesn't mean it's excluded. Someone is coming here from another galaxy. But I'm guessing they might go with the Shi'ar being Earth based and not aliens. Taking out them being from another galaxy.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 8, 2017 17:03:07 GMT
Care to give an example of a filmmaker defining the word as such? Because it seems more like people didn't know what the word meant and just made wild guesses instead of checking due to laziness. Which is something @weirdraptor does very often. I mean did Singer and Burton even use that word to discribe those? And there is nothing fantastical about child soldiers. It's a very real thing. People have called Batman taking Robin under his wing irresponsible even in the comics. Nitpick: Mystique is naked 24/7 in the comics. She just forms clothing all the time. And X-Men in general is a sci-fi series and because their abilities are based on evolution. So is Star War and is labelled as such. Very bad examples. EDIT: And intergalactic travel falls under sci-fi, not fanasty. Burton's movies are never grounded. They all have a sense of otherworldliness. Singer described his take Apocalypse as grounded. Even saying him growing big in the real world as silly. Actually, there is something fantastical about Robin. Batman is the Dark Knight . Wouldn't that make Robin his squire? He is training him to take over for him as the new Batman. Yes, she is technically naked, but the filmmakers were dumb enough to over think that. They made the X-men movies sci-fi. Also, mutants didn't come about from natural evolution. The Celestials put the x-gene into humans. Something they co opted from the Kree creating Inhumans. Star Wars is technically sci-fantasy because it is in a futuristic setting. 9The same X-men technically being urban fantasy. You know when you put fantasy elements into a modern setting. According to the commentary that wasn't the reason why he didn't have that ability. It was because that would require another year in production. He likely wanted the movie out on the 30th anniversary of the character. All I remember was him calling Apocalypse's costume silly, which many fans have been saying for years. Besides, Apocalypse doesn't have that ability in the comics. That was all from the cartoon. From what I heard it was about sex appeal and they took advantage of the fact that she was naked.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 8, 2017 18:11:57 GMT
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 8, 2017 20:25:07 GMT
Burton's movies are never grounded. They all have a sense of otherworldliness. Singer described his take Apocalypse as grounded. Even saying him growing big in the real world as silly. Actually, there is something fantastical about Robin. Batman is the Dark Knight . Wouldn't that make Robin his squire? He is training him to take over for him as the new Batman. Yes, she is technically naked, but the filmmakers were dumb enough to over think that. They made the X-men movies sci-fi. Also, mutants didn't come about from natural evolution. The Celestials put the x-gene into humans. Something they co opted from the Kree creating Inhumans. Star Wars is technically sci-fantasy because it is in a futuristic setting. 9The same X-men technically being urban fantasy. You know when you put fantasy elements into a modern setting. According to the commentary that wasn't the reason why he didn't have that ability. It was because that would require another year in production. He likely wanted the movie out on the 30th anniversary of the character. All I remember was him calling Apocalypse's costume silly, which many fans have been saying for years. Besides, Apocalypse doesn't have that ability in the comics. That was all from the cartoon. From what I heard it was about sex appeal and they took advantage of the fact that she was naked. That can't be it because they had him grow big in a mental fight. Singer actually said, in an interview, Apocalypse growing big would look silly with him swatting planes. That was him comparing him to King Kong, by the way. Even funnier, Marvel said "Hold my beer," and put Giant Man in an airport scene. A woman can be even more sexy wearing clothing. Especially a split sides dress. Having a blue nekkid woman was to get the teenage boys to the movie.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 8, 2017 20:32:25 GMT
Burton's movies are never grounded. They all have a sense of otherworldliness. Singer described his take Apocalypse as grounded. Even saying him growing big in the real world as silly. Actually, there is something fantastical about Robin. Batman is the Dark Knight . Wouldn't that make Robin his squire? He is training him to take over for him as the new Batman. Yes, she is technically naked, but the filmmakers were dumb enough to over think that. They made the X-men movies sci-fi. Also, mutants didn't come about from natural evolution. The Celestials put the x-gene into humans. Something they co opted from the Kree creating Inhumans. Star Wars is technically sci-fantasy because it is in a futuristic setting. 9The same X-men technically being urban fantasy. You know when you put fantasy elements into a modern setting. According to the commentary that wasn't the reason why he didn't have that ability. It was because that would require another year in production. He likely wanted the movie out on the 30th anniversary of the character. All I remember was him calling Apocalypse's costume silly, which many fans have been saying for years. Besides, Apocalypse doesn't have that ability in the comics. That was all from the cartoon. From what I heard it was about sex appeal and they took advantage of the fact that she was naked. Actually, Apocalypse could grow in the comics too. He did so in the X-Factor storyline where Baby Nathan was sent to the future to become Cable.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 8, 2017 20:42:42 GMT
According to the commentary that wasn't the reason why he didn't have that ability. It was because that would require another year in production. He likely wanted the movie out on the 30th anniversary of the character. All I remember was him calling Apocalypse's costume silly, which many fans have been saying for years. Besides, Apocalypse doesn't have that ability in the comics. That was all from the cartoon. From what I heard it was about sex appeal and they took advantage of the fact that she was naked. That can't be it because they had him grow big in a mental fight. Singer actually said, in an interview, Apocalypse growing big would look silly with him swatting planes. That was him comparing him to King Kong, by the way. Even funnier, Marvel said "Hold my beer," and put Giant Man in an airport scene. A woman can be even more sexy wearing clothing. Especially a split sides dress. Having a blue nekkid woman was to get the teenage boys to the movie. He was talking about as a regular power set shown through the film. Plus the movie never had Apocalypse fight the military. So I'm either guessing the interview doesn't exist or that was a troll like Psylocke being a sex slave. And that scene was a reference to the battle Xavier had with Shadow King in his origin story.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 8, 2017 20:43:58 GMT
According to the commentary that wasn't the reason why he didn't have that ability. It was because that would require another year in production. He likely wanted the movie out on the 30th anniversary of the character. All I remember was him calling Apocalypse's costume silly, which many fans have been saying for years. Besides, Apocalypse doesn't have that ability in the comics. That was all from the cartoon. From what I heard it was about sex appeal and they took advantage of the fact that she was naked. Actually, Apocalypse could grow in the comics too. He did so in the X-Factor storyline where Baby Nathan was sent to the future to become Cable. Actually, he was hooked up to a machine that made him bigger by zapping Nathan of his power.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 8, 2017 20:48:46 GMT
Actually, Apocalypse could grow in the comics too. He did so in the X-Factor storyline where Baby Nathan was sent to the future to become Cable. Actually, he was hooked up to a machine that made him bigger by zapping Nathan of his power. They could've at least given him the shapeshifting. He couldn't even do that.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 8, 2017 20:54:34 GMT
That can't be it because they had him grow big in a mental fight. Singer actually said, in an interview, Apocalypse growing big would look silly with him swatting planes. That was him comparing him to King Kong, by the way. Even funnier, Marvel said "Hold my beer," and put Giant Man in an airport scene. A woman can be even more sexy wearing clothing. Especially a split sides dress. Having a blue nekkid woman was to get the teenage boys to the movie. He was talking about as a regular power set shown through the film. Plus the movie never had Apocalypse fight the military. So I'm either guessing the interview doesn't exist or that was a troll like Psylocke being a sex slave. And that scene was a reference to the battle Xavier had with Shadow King in his origin story. Yes, he was making a joke by comparing him to Kong. But the joke was still showing his views on the matter. He did the growing bit in a mental battle to placate fans without actually doing it. It would be like having Xavier make Wolverine fight Cyclops in the Astral Plane and they are wearing comic accurate uniforms. Complete with masks/hoods. It's in the movie, but doesn't count because it's not the "real world." Oh and growing big isn't a part of his power set. But controlling his body to change size and appearance is.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 8, 2017 21:03:50 GMT
Actually, he was hooked up to a machine that made him bigger by zapping Nathan of his power. They could've at least given him the shapeshifting. He couldn't even do that. They were going to based on early interviews. But Singer wanting to get the movie out on time probably axed it.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 8, 2017 21:07:19 GMT
He was talking about as a regular power set shown through the film. Plus the movie never had Apocalypse fight the military. So I'm either guessing the interview doesn't exist or that was a troll like Psylocke being a sex slave. And that scene was a reference to the battle Xavier had with Shadow King in his origin story. Yes, he was making a joke by comparing him to Kong. But the joke was still showing his views on the matter. He did the growing bit in a mental battle to placate fans without actually doing it. It would be like having Xavier make Wolverine fight Cyclops in the Astral Plane and they are wearing comic accurate uniforms. Complete with masks/hoods. It's in the movie, but doesn't count because it's not the "real world." Oh and growing big isn't a part of his power set. But controlling his body to change size and appearance is. Nah, I think it was just a Shadow King nod. They will probably have him replace the Hellfire in the next movie.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 9, 2017 15:13:14 GMT
Independence Day, War of The Worlds, The Thing are not regarded as intergalactic adventures either. Because of their setting. ID4 actually is. War of the Worlds are Martians. The Thing is an unknown. Just because the heroes don't leave the galaxy doesn't mean it's excluded. Someone is coming here from another galaxy. But I'm guessing they might go with the Shi'ar being Earth based and not aliens. Taking out them being from another galaxy. The aliens in Independence Days are from another star system not galaxy. At the end of the second film they say interstellar travel. I just rewatched it. But either way it's never been label as Space Opera. Because by definition it refers to setting.
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