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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 16:00:20 GMT
What is wrong with the titles of film sequels? Can you think of any franchises where the sequel titles are confusing?
My Example, the "Fast and Furious" Franchise.
1. "The Fast and the Furious" 2. "2 Fast 2 Furious" (Okay, it's corny, but at least you know it's the 2nd) 3. "The Fast and the Furious" : Tokyo Drift 4. "Fast and Furious" (prequel to Tokyo Drift set after 2 Fast 2 Furious) also, no way o knowing it's the 4th by the title. 5. "Fast Five" (Back on track with the numbering, but it's still a prequel to Tokyo Drift and a sequel to "Fast and Furious") 6. "Fast & Furious 6" (Still a prequel to Tokyo Drift, but a sequel to "Fast Five") 7. "Furious 7" (Why not just stick to a sequence? Why not call it "Fast & Furious 7" Finally not a prequel to Tokyo Drift) 8. "The Fate of the Furious" (So it was okay to number the prequel trilogy 5,6,7? but then you decide to drop the numbering? Are you embarrassed as to how many you have in the Franchise?)
50 years from now, when kids want to go back and watch this franchises (assuming they stopped at 8 for this example) They wouldn't know what the Hell order this was in. It's confusing to me, and I have followed the franchise.
To watch the real story, they would have to watch it as follows. 1,2,4,5,6,3,7,8
Why not number it? Or better yet, number it with a subtitle?
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1. "The Fast and the Furious" 2. "The Fast and the Furious 2: Miami Heat" 3. "The Fast and the Furious 3: Tokyo Drift" 4. "The Fast and the Furious 4: Mexican Underground"
and so on and so forth. I know the subtitles are corny, but at least you would know the order. Or drop the Subtitle, or number, you don't have to have both. Something...
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Post by Spleen on Feb 7, 2017 9:03:55 GMT
I actually like the avoidance of one, two, three and so on.
I'm sure everyone gets confused over the chronology of these films:
Raiders of the Lost Ark Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
If we hadn't all memorised it we wouldn't know they were released in that order, and I never can keep it straight in my head what the chronological order of the three films is (I keep getting told, and I keep forgetting). But that doesn't matter. I like when each title is its own thing, not Something-or-other Part Two.
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Post by Times Up on Feb 19, 2017 22:03:42 GMT
The Rambo movies are little confusing. First the name change from First Blood to Rambo, then Rambo 4 drops the numbering and goes eponymous like an album.
Jurassic Park is a bit annoying too. Jurassic Park III sandwiched in-between The Lost World and Jurassic World.
Hellraiser is pretty bad. The first 2 sequels are numbered, then they made up to part 11, or whatever, with no numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 15:23:48 GMT
The Rambo movies are little confusing. First the name change from First Blood to Rambo, then Rambo 4 drops the numbering and goes eponymous like an album. Jurassic Park is a bit annoying too. Jurassic Park III sandwiched in-between The Lost World and Jurassic World. Hellraiser is pretty bad. The first 2 sequels are numbered, then they made up to part 11, or whatever, with no numbers. Rambo is bad. "First Blood" "Rambo: First Blood Part II" "Rambo III" and "Rambo" They couldn't even call the fourth one Rambo IV and have some continuity. Seriously, NONE of the films sequels have any continuity. Even if it were... "First Blood" "Rambo: First Blood Part II" "Rambo: First Blood Part III" "Rambo: Final Blood" or something.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 15:40:34 GMT
Rocky is infuriating just because it was pretty uniform until the last installment.
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Post by Times Up on Mar 7, 2017 16:19:47 GMT
The Rambo movies are little confusing. First the name change from First Blood to Rambo, then Rambo 4 drops the numbering and goes eponymous like an album. Jurassic Park is a bit annoying too. Jurassic Park III sandwiched in-between The Lost World and Jurassic World. Hellraiser is pretty bad. The first 2 sequels are numbered, then they made up to part 11, or whatever, with no numbers. Rambo is bad. "First Blood" "Rambo: First Blood Part II" "Rambo III" and "Rambo" They couldn't even call the fourth one Rambo IV and have some continuity. Seriously, NONE of the films sequels have any continuity. Even if it were... "First Blood" "Rambo: First Blood Part II" "Rambo: First Blood Part III" "Rambo: Final Blood" or something. Yes, oddly enough in nearly all foreign countries the titles are consistent. Go figure. I always thought it should go: First Blood First Blood II: The Mission First Blood III: Holy War First Blood IV: Full Circle either that or First Blood Rambo: First Blood Part II Full Circle: First Blood Part III To Hell and Back: First Blood Part IV some kind of effort would have been nice
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Post by Times Up on Mar 7, 2017 16:23:10 GMT
Rocky is infuriating just because it was pretty uniform until the last installment. Stallone claimed that was his way of saying The End. Creed is technically a spinoff so I guess it still stands. Since Balboa is more of a stand alone I think it's ok. I to V play like one long movie (though 3s montage is kind of a cheat and 5 had a montage for time passage but occurred on the middle of the film.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 16:28:34 GMT
Stallone claimed that was his way of saying The End. Creed is technically a spinoff so I guess it still stands. Since Balboa is more of a stand alone I think it's ok. I to V play like one long movie (though 3s montage is kind of a cheat and 5 had a montage for time passage but occurred on the middle of the film.) It's still lame. It's Rocky VI. In any case, the movie was awesome, so it's forgivable. I liked Creed too. But I agree that's a spinoff, so the rules don't apply to that film.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 7, 2017 21:15:16 GMT
The way The Fast and the Furious franchise is named is pretty creative imo. I like it personally.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 21:18:44 GMT
The way The Fast and the Furious franchise is named is pretty creative imo. I like it personally. Thats fine. I was just using it as an example to prove my point about naming/numbering sequels. Is there a franchise that does it in a way that annoys you?
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Post by Times Up on Mar 8, 2017 0:14:47 GMT
Stallone claimed that was his way of saying The End. Creed is technically a spinoff so I guess it still stands. Since Balboa is more of a stand alone I think it's ok. I to V play like one long movie (though 3s montage is kind of a cheat and 5 had a montage for time passage but occurred on the middle of the film.) It's still lame. It's Rocky VI. In any case, the movie was awesome, so it's forgivable. I liked Creed too. But I agree that's a spinoff, so the rules don't apply to that film. I agree, it should have been consistent. I think he it was really his way of forgetting there was a Rocky V.
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Post by Times Up on Mar 8, 2017 1:52:59 GMT
This is a great topic. While we're on the subject, what do you guys think about Hollywood's trend of sequels which use no numbering but instead either use a colon and a subtitle or simply the characters name followed by "and whatever", such as Harry Potter and Indiana Jones?
Usually the number is dumped after 2 or 3. Is it just too embarrassing? I've never seen any of the witchcraft films, but have always admired it's numbering. In 2015 they released "Witchcraft XVI." I cannot think of any other series numbered that effectively.
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Post by conspirologist on Mar 8, 2017 2:11:14 GMT
This is a great topic. While we're on the subject, what do you guys think about Hollywood's trend of sequels which use no numbering but instead either use a colon and a subtitle or simply the characters name followed by "and whatever", such as Harry Potter and Indiana Jones? Usually the number is dumped after 2 or 3. Is it just too embarrassing? I've never seen any of the witchcraft films, but have always admired it's numbering. In 2015 they released "Witchcraft XVI." I cannot think of any other series numbered that effectively. Exactly. The problem is that in Hollywood they use too much colon instead of brain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 23:05:19 GMT
This is a great topic. While we're on the subject, what do you guys think about Hollywood's trend of sequels which use no numbering but instead either use a colon and a subtitle or simply the characters name followed by "and whatever", such as Harry Potter and Indiana Jones? Usually the number is dumped after 2 or 3. Is it just too embarrassing? I've never seen any of the witchcraft films, but have always admired it's numbering. In 2015 they released "Witchcraft XVI." I cannot think of any other series numbered that effectively. Wow "XVI" that's impressive. Rocky was probably the biggest mainstream and Superman to do it. But in the 2000s they ruined them both. "Rocky Balboa" and "Superman Returns"
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Post by Times Up on Mar 8, 2017 23:14:59 GMT
This is a great topic. While we're on the subject, what do you guys think about Hollywood's trend of sequels which use no numbering but instead either use a colon and a subtitle or simply the characters name followed by "and whatever", such as Harry Potter and Indiana Jones? Usually the number is dumped after 2 or 3. Is it just too embarrassing? I've never seen any of the witchcraft films, but have always admired it's numbering. In 2015 they released "Witchcraft XVI." I cannot think of any other series numbered that effectively. Wow "XVI" that's impressive. Rocky was probably the biggest mainstream and Superman to do it. But in the 2000s they ruined them both. "Rocky Balboa" and "Superman Returns" Too bad about those two. I'll have to see the "Witchcraft" flicks one of these days. They are super low budget apparently: all direct to video. They shot parts 14 - 16 all back-to-back-to-back in 2015 in an impressively ridiculous span of 9 days, LOL.
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Post by CybeRider on Mar 9, 2017 2:41:43 GMT
Nothing can beat Star Wars mess. Many ppl died over the years it took to show the beginning of the story.
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