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Post by darkpast on Oct 10, 2017 3:21:46 GMT
not a retro movie anymore, hope Rian didn't go Full Lucas
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Oct 10, 2017 17:20:16 GMT
Considering the visual sophistication in some of the new trailer scenes, it would be tough to pull that off with practical effects.
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Post by President Ackbarâ„¢ on Oct 10, 2017 18:28:19 GMT
That TIE Silencer shot looked like something straight out of Episode III
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 10, 2017 18:57:57 GMT
not a retro movie anymore, hope Rian didn't go Full Lucas Complaints of CGI in this day and age, for this type of movie, are just silly. These movies are ALL filled with CGI. The problem isn't CGI, the problem is whether or not its done well. When its done well no one will think twice about it. A full one sci-fi movie like Star Wars CANNOT be done without CGI nowadays. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 19:25:22 GMT
not a retro movie anymore, hope Rian didn't go Full Lucas Complaints of CGI in this day and age, for this type of movie, are just silly. These movies are ALL filled with CGI. The problem isn't CGI, the problem is whether or not its done well. When its done well no one will think twice about it. A full one sci-fi movie like Star Wars CANNOT be done without CGI nowadays. I'm not a fan of CGI. I thought it was especially distracting in Rogue One. But c'mon. If the ST featured puppets a la Yoda from Empire, people would lose their shit talking about how fake it looked. People still view the OT through rose-colored glasses. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 19:37:25 GMT
Complaints of CGI in this day and age, for this type of movie, are just silly. These movies are ALL filled with CGI. The problem isn't CGI, the problem is whether or not its done well. When its done well no one will think twice about it. A full one sci-fi movie like Star Wars CANNOT be done without CGI nowadays. I'm not a fan of CGI. I thought it was especially distracting in Rogue One. But c'mon. If the ST featured puppets a la Yoda from Empire, people would lose their shit talking about how fake it looked. People still view the OT through rose-colored glasses. Are you serious? Puppet Yoda still looks amazing! You'd seriously rather have a cartoon looking CGI Yoda in ESB? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 19:38:17 GMT
Agreed. That CGI was a real turn off. Looks like a trailer from a video game
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Post by President Ackbarâ„¢ on Oct 10, 2017 19:45:06 GMT
Agreed. That CGI was a real turn off. Looks like a trailer from a video game  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 19:51:10 GMT
Agreed. That CGI was a real turn off. Looks like a trailer from a video game  |
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Post by President Ackbarâ„¢ on Oct 10, 2017 19:59:11 GMT
If the ST featured puppets a la Yoda from Empire, people would lose their shit talking about how fake it looked Are you serious? Puppet Yoda still looks amazing! You'd seriously rather have a cartoon looking CGI Yoda in ESB?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:17:31 GMT
I'm not a fan of CGI. I thought it was especially distracting in Rogue One. But c'mon. If the ST featured puppets a la Yoda from Empire, people would lose their shit talking about how fake it looked. People still view the OT through rose-colored glasses. Are you serious? Puppet Yoda still looks amazing! You'd seriously rather have a cartoon looking CGI Yoda in ESB? Six of one, half dozen of the other. The Rancor claw in ROTJ is laughably fake-looking. Some of Yoda's movements in TESB are odd, like when he attacks R2D2. CGI would have looked better there. On the other hand, Yoda looks better as a puppet when he's not moving. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 11, 2017 0:12:45 GMT
Complaints of CGI in this day and age, for this type of movie, are just silly. These movies are ALL filled with CGI. The problem isn't CGI, the problem is whether or not its done well. When its done well no one will think twice about it. A full one sci-fi movie like Star Wars CANNOT be done without CGI nowadays. I'm not a fan of CGI. I thought it was especially distracting in Rogue One. But c'mon. If the ST featured puppets a la Yoda from Empire, people would lose their shit talking about how fake it looked. People still view the OT through rose-colored glasses. ^^^this^^^ |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 11, 2017 0:14:19 GMT
I'm not a fan of CGI. I thought it was especially distracting in Rogue One. But c'mon. If the ST featured puppets a la Yoda from Empire, people would lose their shit talking about how fake it looked. People still view the OT through rose-colored glasses. Are you serious? Puppet Yoda still looks amazing! You'd seriously rather have a cartoon looking CGI Yoda in ESB? I'd rather have a Yoda that moves like a living being. CGi achieves that better than a puppet. It just does. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 4:01:17 GMT
Are you serious? Puppet Yoda still looks amazing! You'd seriously rather have a cartoon looking CGI Yoda in ESB? I'd rather have a Yoda that moves like a living being. CGi achieves that better than a puppet. It just does. When puppets walk, it's as if they don't have legs. BAzinga. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 17:29:22 GMT
Are you serious? Puppet Yoda still looks amazing! You'd seriously rather have a cartoon looking CGI Yoda in ESB? I'd rather have a Yoda that moves like a living being. CGi achieves that better than a puppet. It just does. Movement, yes. But a real puppet actually looks like it's physically in the scene. CGI characters just don't look like they're actually there 95% of the time. Also, puppet Yoda was extremely expressive and emotive. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 18:06:10 GMT
I'd rather have a Yoda that moves like a living being. CGi achieves that better than a puppet. It just does. Movement, yes. But a real puppet actually looks like it's physically in the scene. CGI characters just don't look like they're actually there 95% of the time. Also, puppet Yoda was extremely expressive and emotive. I actually agree with everything you just said. But additionally: puppet Yoda looks like he's walking without legs. When he hits R2D2, there's no fluidity to the movement, no bend in the arm and the whole body tilts sideways to make the movement. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 11, 2017 18:21:37 GMT
I'd rather have a Yoda that moves like a living being. CGi achieves that better than a puppet. It just does. Movement, yes. But a real puppet actually looks like it's physically in the scene. CGI characters just don't look like they're actually there 95% of the time. Also, puppet Yoda was extremely expressive and emotive. To be clear I prefer practical to CGI whenever its possible. But if you want Yoda to do things like what he did in AOTC or ROTS there's no way around it. Its the difference between Yoda in TPM and AOTC. I think we've moved beyond puppetry as being truly effective unless in brief scenes.
The right amount, the right blend, of cgi and practical is best when doing this sort of big budget all out sci-fi action movie. There's just no better way as of right now. Maybe one day they will reach truly photo-real CGI.
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