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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 4:55:55 GMT
Alright, let's do this. In general, I don't really care about the various award ceremonies. I doubt Logan will receive any wins, and I will very surprised if it gets nominated. Some pretentious arthouse film will win, because they always do. Superhero films, regardless of what company makes them, typically don't win many awards. That's why I don't believe the academy would have given Ledger that "Best Supporting Actor" Oscar if he were still alive. And yes, I do believe he deserved that award. However, the academy often doesn't give filmmakers and actors what they deserve. As I stated earlier, Alfred Hitchcock went his entire career without receiving a single Oscar for his work. One of the greatest cinematic minds ever, and no "Best Director" wins, and no "Best Screenplay" wins. Zilch. So I don't believe its a matter of the MCU not being good enough to win Oscars. I believe its a matter of the academy having a stick up its ass. The academy turns their nose up a lot of genres, not just the comic book-based. They also tend to snub Comedy, Horror, Fantasy, and Sci-Fi, with exceptions. As for the Emmys, I follow those even less than I follow the Oscars. It really makes you wonder how ‘The Return of the King’ managed to win 11 Oscars. In the case of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I think the academy just absolutely HAD to. They probably knew they would be facing a lot of public backlash they'd still be feeling for years to come if they didn't throw the public a bone. So yeah, even in that instance, I'm more inclined to believe they did it just to maintain credibility in the public eye than because they actually wanted to.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 14, 2017 4:58:53 GMT
Alright, let's do this. In general, I don't really care about the various award ceremonies. I doubt Logan will receive any wins, and I will very surprised if it gets nominated. Some pretentious arthouse film will win, because they always do. Superhero films, regardless of what company makes them, typically don't win many awards. That's why I don't believe the academy would have given Ledger that "Best Supporting Actor" Oscar if he were still alive. And yes, I do believe he deserved that award. However, the academy often doesn't give filmmakers and actors what they deserve. As I stated earlier, Alfred Hitchcock went his entire career without receiving a single Oscar for his work. One of the greatest cinematic minds ever, and no "Best Director" wins, and no "Best Screenplay" wins. Zilch. So I don't believe its a matter of the MCU not being good enough to win Oscars. I believe its a matter of the academy having a stick up its ass. The academy turns their nose up a lot of genres, not just the comic book-based. They also tend to snub Comedy, Horror, Fantasy, and Sci-Fi, with exceptions. As for the Emmys, I follow those even less than I follow the Oscars. You speak some truth here. I cant believe that Ennio Morricone didnt win for 'Once Upon A Time In The West' that year. In fact he only received his first one last year. That kind of thing makes me not take the Oscars very seriously. One year there is critisism that there are no black nominees, the next year a black movie wins the Oscar.Im not saying that wasnt deserved but its an example on how the Academy makes itsself not believable. So no, even if Avengers Infinity War would won 13 Oscars I still wouldnt care. And as for becoming mod, I have no word from Admin. If I were to become mod I would be very impartial and working together with scabab to draw one line. It will not only be the trolling on the Marvelboard we would try to tone down but also on the DC board. Its a two way street. Morricone only has 1 win and it was last year?!!!! Mind blown. I would have bet a lot of cash he had several beginning in the 60's. I'm surprised they didn't give it to Puff Daddy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 5:01:38 GMT
Alright, let's do this. In general, I don't really care about the various award ceremonies. I doubt Logan will receive any wins, and I will very surprised if it gets nominated. Some pretentious arthouse film will win, because they always do. Superhero films, regardless of what company makes them, typically don't win many awards. That's why I don't believe the academy would have given Ledger that "Best Supporting Actor" Oscar if he were still alive. And yes, I do believe he deserved that award. However, the academy often doesn't give filmmakers and actors what they deserve. As I stated earlier, Alfred Hitchcock went his entire career without receiving a single Oscar for his work. One of the greatest cinematic minds ever, and no "Best Director" wins, and no "Best Screenplay" wins. Zilch. So I don't believe its a matter of the MCU not being good enough to win Oscars. I believe its a matter of the academy having a stick up its ass. The academy turns their nose up a lot of genres, not just the comic book-based. They also tend to snub Comedy, Horror, Fantasy, and Sci-Fi, with exceptions. As for the Emmys, I follow those even less than I follow the Oscars. You speak some truth here. I cant believe that Ennio Morricone didnt win for 'Once Upon A Time In The West' that year. In fact he only received his first one last year. That kind of thing makes me not take the Oscars very seriously. One year there is critisism that there are no black nominees, the next year a black movie wins the Oscar.Im not saying that wasnt deserved but its an example on how the Academy makes itsself not believable. So no, even if Avengers Infinity War would won 13 Oscars I still wouldnt care. And as for becoming mod, I have no word from Admin. If I were to become mod I would be very impartial and working together with scabab to draw one line. It will not only be the trolling on the Marvelboard we would try to tone down but also on the DC board. Its a two way street. Exactly. There's also Orson Wells, who another cinematic genius. He only ever got one Oscar for "Best Screenplay." And let's not forget "Shakespeare in Love" winning Best Picture over "Saving Private Ryan" because the former was a big feminist movie. Yeah, screw the brave soldiers who fought hard to literally save the world in the 40s.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 14, 2017 5:01:39 GMT
It really makes you wonder how ‘The Return of the King’ managed to win 11 Oscars. In the case of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I think the academy just absolutely HAD to. They probably knew they would be facing a lot of public backlash they'd still be feeling for years to come if they didn't throw the public a bone. So yeah, even in that instance, I'm more inclined to believe they did it just to maintain credibility in the public eye than because they actually wanted to. I think it's also a given they were awarding the entire trilogy not just the final film and to be frank awarding all that money the trilogy made.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 5:04:10 GMT
You speak some truth here. I cant believe that Ennio Morricone didnt win for 'Once Upon A Time In The West' that year. In fact he only received his first one last year. That kind of thing makes me not take the Oscars very seriously. One year there is critisism that there are no black nominees, the next year a black movie wins the Oscar.Im not saying that wasnt deserved but its an example on how the Academy makes itsself not believable. So no, even if Avengers Infinity War would won 13 Oscars I still wouldnt care. And as for becoming mod, I have no word from Admin. If I were to become mod I would be very impartial and working together with scabab to draw one line. It will not only be the trolling on the Marvelboard we would try to tone down but also on the DC board. Its a two way street. Morricone only has 1 win and it was last year?!!!! Mind blown. I would have bet a lot of cash he had several beginning in the 60's. I'm surprised they didn't give it to Puff Daddy. Its true. When I read that I couldnt believe it either. I consider Morricone to be one of the best, if not the best, score composer of all time. Right up there with John Williams. The score for 'Once Upon A Time In America' makes me tear up so beautiful.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 5:08:43 GMT
In the case of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I think the academy just absolutely HAD to. They probably knew they would be facing a lot of public backlash they'd still be feeling for years to come if they didn't throw the public a bone. So yeah, even in that instance, I'm more inclined to believe they did it just to maintain credibility in the public eye than because they actually wanted to. I think it's also a given they were awarding the entire trilogy not just the final film and to be frank awarding all that money the trilogy made. That's a believable enough excuse, but I don't entirely buy it. They've pulled too many stunts like creating the "Best Animated Picture" award just so they'd never have to nominate another animated film for "Best Picture" after Beauty and the Beast or snubbing Katharine Hepburn in The Philadelphia Story for me to ever believe they'll willingly hand over an Oscar to the general public's pick.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 14, 2017 6:08:10 GMT
Morricone only has 1 win and it was last year?!!!! Mind blown. I would have bet a lot of cash he had several beginning in the 60's. I'm surprised they didn't give it to Puff Daddy. Its true. When I read that I couldnt believe it either. I consider Morricone to be one of the best, if not the best, score composer of all time. Right up there with John Williams. The score for 'Once Upon A Time In America' makes me tear up so beautiful. I would put Bernard Herrmann on the list with those 2 also. Herrmann also inexplicably only won 1 Oscar and wasn't even nominated for most of his Hitchcock scores. The win was for The Devil and Daniel Webster not Citizen Kane or (most perplexing to me) Taxi Driver. I feel the same way about Once Upon a Time in the Old West as you do In America. Beautiful enough to move a person to tears.
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Post by scabab on Oct 14, 2017 7:32:48 GMT
You should muzzle poelzig, too, while you're at it. I hope scabab is now seeing why I was leery of mods in the first place. The mcu fans want this to be their playground and any conflicting views be eliminated. This is EXACTLY what I told scabab last night and he insisted it was not true. Do I deserve to be insulted and bullied merely for pointing out Heath Ledger was deserving of an Oscar and that your insistence otherwise should be backed up in some way? I think not. You reacting to my attempt to engage you in a polite discussion with insults is very hurtful. I prefer you refrain from such behavior in the future. Don't worry, this isn't gonna become some Marvel fan club where you are only allowed to sing it's praise. If there's warranted criticism then there's nothing wrong with that. People should be allowed to criticize things without rabid fans tearing you down with insults or this tired mentality of "He just said something negative about a Marvel movie so now I have to tell him something negative about a DC movie even though it has absolutely nothing to do with what he just said". Likewise the same would be true the other way around as well.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Oct 14, 2017 7:49:44 GMT
If any it will be for mske up or effects. I dont think it will ever win an important oscar. No CBM ever will. an important Oscar has never been awarded.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 14, 2017 7:53:43 GMT
I hope scabab is now seeing why I was leery of mods in the first place. The mcu fans want this to be their playground and any conflicting views be eliminated. This is EXACTLY what I told scabab last night and he insisted it was not true. Do I deserve to be insulted and bullied merely for pointing out Heath Ledger was deserving of an Oscar and that your insistence otherwise should be backed up in some way? I think not. You reacting to my attempt to engage you in a polite discussion with insults is very hurtful. I prefer you refrain from such behavior in the future. Don't worry, this isn't gonna become some Marvel fan club where you are only allowed to sing it's praise. If there's warranted criticism then there's nothing wrong with that. People should be allowed to criticize things without rabid fans tearing you down with insults or this tired mentality of "He just said something negative about a Marvel movie so now I have to tell him something negative about a DC movie even though it has absolutely nothing to do with what he just said". Likewise the same would be true the other way around as well. Sounds fair. I have to ask though, where does scabab name come from? DBZ related maybe? Poelzig is the guy in my avatar portrayed by the always awesome Boris Karloff. He was the villain in one of my favorite horror movies The Black Cat (1934)
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Post by poelzig on Oct 14, 2017 8:02:49 GMT
If any it will be for mske up or effects. I dont think it will ever win an important oscar. No CBM ever will. an important Oscar has never been awarded. It's important to the people who win them and when a movie wins Best Picture it makes more money for the film. But yeah you're right in a way. It would still be cool to win one, right?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 14, 2017 8:15:13 GMT
Is that set in stone? Is the "Popular Franchises" section getting mods? It would seem so and I would hope so. From what I was told yesterday it would be made happen in a couple days when he had time to sort it out. He also said somewhere that users are made mods for specific boards. So I'd be the mod for the DCEU and MCU boards only. Not any of the others. I don't know if the others would even need require one, they're a lot more composed compared to the flame wars that keep going on here. It'd be me and the other user, Iron Panther. that seems not properly thought through. If you and/or Wakanda become mods, the mod competence should include the X-Men boards too. Have you any idea how much these are systematically attacked by the usual suspects such as weirdraptor or arch stanton ... it's the same ilk and the same underlying problem of fanatical basement bullying. The X-board has a low traffic rate, so it's not too much additional effort. 2 Mods would be better from a 4-eyes compliance perspective, and also bc of time zones, Panther is CET and you are somewhere in the Americas I assume, so that would play along nicely so that everyone gets his beauty sleep. Please if you must do it, do it comprehensively to tackle the problem, talk to the Admin about it...
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Oct 14, 2017 8:25:33 GMT
an important Oscar has never been awarded. It's important to the people who win them and when a movie wins Best Picture it makes more money for the film. But yeah you're right in a way. It would still be cool to win one, right? meh... my only interest in them is to see just how overtly politically driven and nonsensical the award/nomin-ees become. the closer to farcical, the better.
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Post by Admin on Oct 14, 2017 8:28:40 GMT
It would seem so and I would hope so. From what I was told yesterday it would be made happen in a couple days when he had time to sort it out. He also said somewhere that users are made mods for specific boards. So I'd be the mod for the DCEU and MCU boards only. Not any of the others. I don't know if the others would even need require one, they're a lot more composed compared to the flame wars that keep going on here. It'd be me and the other user, Iron Panther. that seems not properly thought through. If you and/or Wakanda become mods, the mod competence should include the X-Men boards too. Have you any idea how much these are systematically attacked by the usual suspects such as weirdraptor or arch stanton ... it's the same ilk and the same underlying problem of fanatical basement bullying. The X-board has a low traffic rate, so it's not too much additional effort. 2 Mods would be better from a 4-eyes compliance perspective, and also bc of time zones, Panther is CET and you are somewhere in the Americas I assume, so that would play along nicely so that everyone gets his beauty sleep. Please if you must do it, do it comprehensively to tackle the problem, talk to the Admin about it... Are you saying they should be able to moderate the X-Men board as well?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 14, 2017 8:46:14 GMT
that seems not properly thought through. If you and/or Wakanda become mods, the mod competence should include the X-Men boards too. Have you any idea how much these are systematically attacked by the usual suspects such as weirdraptor or arch stanton ... it's the same ilk and the same underlying problem of fanatical basement bullying. The X-board has a low traffic rate, so it's not too much additional effort. 2 Mods would be better from a 4-eyes compliance perspective, and also bc of time zones, Panther is CET and you are somewhere in the Americas I assume, so that would play along nicely so that everyone gets his beauty sleep. Please if you must do it, do it comprehensively to tackle the problem, talk to the Admin about it... Are you saying they should be able to moderate the X-Men board as well? Affirmative, IMO a MUST if you wish get a grip of the problem and avoid a spill-over migration effect. If the X-boards remain unmonitored, you de facto outsource the local fanatical energy to this board and you get the same fanboy battles there (I would be there). So, I think it's a no brainer. And Panter together with Scabab would be a neat combo, Scabab is likely more qualified from experience and character profile, but Panther has some respect and and votes from many sides. Would give a difficult lose-lose admin decision a whiff of democratic fairness and acceptance...
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Post by Admin on Oct 14, 2017 8:49:31 GMT
Are you saying they should be able to moderate the X-Men board as well? Affirmative, IMO a MUST if you wish get a grip of the problem and avoid a spill-over migration effect. If the X-boards remain unmonitored, you de facto outsource the local fanatical energy to this board and you get the same fanboy battles there (I would be there). So, I think it's a no brainer. And Panter together with Scabab would be a neat combo, Scabab is likely more qualified from experience and character profile, but Panther has some respect and and votes from many sides. Would give a difficult lose-lose admin decision a whiff of democratic fairness and acceptance... Fine with me if it's fine with them. scabab Wakanda
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 14, 2017 9:07:09 GMT
If any it will be for mske up or effects. I dont think it will ever win an important oscar. No CBM ever will. an important Oscar has never been awarded. only a Sith deals in absolutes. They will do what they must.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 9:46:08 GMT
Affirmative, IMO a MUST if you wish get a grip of the problem and avoid a spill-over migration effect. If the X-boards remain unmonitored, you de facto outsource the local fanatical energy to this board and you get the same fanboy battles there (I would be there). So, I think it's a no brainer. And Panter together with Scabab would be a neat combo, Scabab is likely more qualified from experience and character profile, but Panther has some respect and and votes from many sides. Would give a difficult lose-lose admin decision a whiff of democratic fairness and acceptance... Fine with me if it's fine with them. scabab WakandaIm fine with it. Scabab and I are on the wave length and will act as a team.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 14, 2017 10:34:53 GMT
We live in a world where a reality TV star/overgrown oompah loompa is president of the United States of America. I'd say anything is possible now.
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Post by Peter B. Parker on Oct 14, 2017 12:06:29 GMT
If any it will be for mske up or effects. I dont think it will ever win an important oscar. No CBM ever will. Doctor Strange was nominated for best VFX, but lost to The Jungle Book. But at the end of the day, Jungle Book deserved it, because it was 99% photorealistic CGI.
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