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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 16, 2017 7:08:04 GMT
Gameboy, we're all adults here, and I feel somewhat embarrassed to point out something that we all as adults should know. Breeders are necessary for the continuance of the species. Homosexuals are not. You may not like breeders, but none of us would be here without them. I'd like to think that St. Frankenstein would agree with me on this if he were here. Gee whiz. All I did was take a so-called homophobic swipe at the Hollywood movie industry, and it turns into a big debate about an alleged homosexual subplot that anyone can see if that person desires to see it. The same could probably be done with any film. Even a film like "Predator." I should have seen it coming. Well start acting like an adult then and grow up. Yes, you are embarrassing, you closeted latent fruit! If breeders continue to breed ignorant dolts such as yourself, they will end up destroying the planet. You wanted this to turn into a debate, because of your psychotic mental illness and hypocritical selective reasoning. Yes, you are a predator and others should be warned about you. Burn in hell sinner! Oooooh.......Toasted Cheese is mad at me.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Oct 16, 2017 7:10:36 GMT
I don't think they inserted a "gay message;" just a subplot involving gays. The filmmakers probably came across the same rumor and thought it interesting enough to include--kinda like how Kenneth Branagh read What Happens in Hamlet and made the first adaptation that included all its theories. I always liked Billy Zane as a really versatile character actor. He was great as the evil-but-charming devil in the Demon Knight. He seemed to crop up in a lot of films I loved during my childhood and adolescence. Of course, Titanic was memorable to my 10-year-old self for other reasons... well, two perky ones in particular. Probably the only reason I remembered it is because I probably saw Tombstone a dozen times as a kid. It really got me interested in the Old West for a time. If you don't mind my asking, what do you think the motivation for that would have been? Was it to have a movie with something for everybody, because gay people buy movie tickets too? BTW, I used to watch Xena: Warrior Princess until they went backward and forward in time so much that I lost track, but I understand that lesbians liked the show, and the producers kept the Xena-Gabrielle relationship ambiguous. They even had a joke at the end of one episode about it, so I know that such things are done in the entertainment business. In that particular case I had no problem with it. I doubt seriously they thought having a very minor subplot involving gays would increase the film's appeal in the least. I doubt it goes any farther than they were doing research, came across that rumor, and decided to put it into the film because they thought it an interesting tidbit. I never saw Xena, but I had heard it was popular among lesbians.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 16, 2017 7:17:39 GMT
Oooooh.......Toasted Cheese is mad at me. You have titled this thread Kilmer on Tombstone and then gone off on a segue of the lack of homosexual representations in film and how you feel grateful for it. On this notion, and you have been called out on this due to Billy Zane's character, you have turned something into what it isn't. Why didn't you comment on Kurt Russell's input and how he helped hold Tombstone all together? That is what the clip was about. The clip doesn't mention anything about your misrepresented agenda and heterosexist propaganda. Burn in hell some more sinner, you are being a moron! Jesus doesn't care for freaks like you. Would you please take your carcass out of here? I'm having a civilized discussion with Gameboy and Eva Yojimbo, and you are making a sophomoric nuisance of yourself. Thanks in advance.
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 16, 2017 8:23:31 GMT
I wish the people behind that video would learn how to just tell a story.
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 16, 2017 16:18:44 GMT
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Post by Cinemachinery on Oct 16, 2017 16:35:35 GMT
You think the Billy Zane character was straight? I was given no reason to think otherwise. This is funny of several levels.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Oct 16, 2017 16:38:07 GMT
"Bone Tomahawk"... "Brimstone".... the list goes on.
This thread is like a little glimpse into what the big, bad world looks like from a sheltered point of view. "Westerns gotta have them gays in'em now! N' them trans folks!"
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Post by gadreel on Oct 16, 2017 21:01:21 GMT
I don't think they inserted a "gay message;" just a subplot involving gays. The filmmakers probably came across the same rumor and thought it interesting enough to include--kinda like how Kenneth Branagh read What Happens in Hamlet and made the first adaptation that included all its theories. I always liked Billy Zane as a really versatile character actor. He was great as the evil-but-charming devil in the Demon Knight. He seemed to crop up in a lot of films I loved during my childhood and adolescence. Of course, Titanic was memorable to my 10-year-old self for other reasons... well, two perky ones in particular. Probably the only reason I remembered it is because I probably saw Tombstone a dozen times as a kid. It really got me interested in the Old West for a time. If you don't mind my asking, what do you think the motivation for that would have been? Was it to have a movie with something for everybody, because gay people buy movie tickets too? BTW, I used to watch Xena: Warrior Princess until they went backward and forward in time so much that I lost track, but I understand that lesbians liked the show, and the producers kept the Xena-Gabrielle relationship ambiguous. They even had a joke at the end of one episode about it, so I know that such things are done in the entertainment business. In that particular case I had no problem with it. The obvious motivation is to accurately portray an historical event, only someone searching for a conspiracy thoery would need to ask any more.
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