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Post by yearspew on Oct 18, 2017 21:13:41 GMT
The popular opinion of this movie is: Freddy's scary again and Wes Craven was the right guy to bring the Nightmare series to its horror roots. And the trench coat is awesome and dark and serious like Freddy in this movie.
I never got that Freddy was serious or scary again here; he still seemed pretty jokey to me. I don't think it's dark like many people make it out to be. It's still waaaay better than Dream Child and Freddy's Dead, but I don't think it's as good as Dream Warriors or Dream Master. I still like the movie, and the idea itself is pretty good. But still, most of the movie is Heather Langenkamp and her kid in what appears to be a TV drama.
Anyway, I'm coming off like I don't like this movie, but I do think t's OK, just not the "dark return of Freddy to his horror roots" like many people say, or even worse "the best of the sequels." That easily goes to The Dream Warriors.
What do you think of this one?
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Post by Marv on Oct 18, 2017 21:28:45 GMT
Its in my top 3 freddy flicks. Easily beating out every sequel but Dream Warriors. The original is the best. I do think it gets mostly back to the scarier side of freddy and left a lot of the one liners by the wayside. Ultimately im a fan of the Heather/Freddy dynamic. So to see that again was a huge strength.
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Post by Flynn on Oct 18, 2017 23:09:15 GMT
I saw it in the theater back in '94 when on a date with my now wife. I remember feeling scared/tense when the boy was up on the playground equipment and when the cracks in the wall resembled Freddy's glove. That was good stuff, but I also recall all of that good will going out the window when Freddy finally shows up. It just turned into a traditional Nightmare film.
I saw it again a few years later, and I was unimpressed. I wondered what I could have liked in the film. I haven't see it in years, but I've heard lots of people talk about it. It seems polarizing. Some people love it; some hate it.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 19, 2017 0:48:09 GMT
It's the only one since the first that tries to get after a more interesting philosophical idea. Wes Craven may not have been the most elegant writer, but he had big and intriguing ideas. The premise of exploring the effect of horror on the people responsible for making it is audacious and ambitious, and taking it out of the continuity and putting it into the 'real' world is a great and thought provoking approach. I also loved the notion that the movie you are watching is also the one being written within the context of the story. That's a very novel and provocative approach that I also think Charlie Kaufman owes a debt to for Adaptation.
I also think it had some of the most inventive and effrctive effects and set pieces of the series and and more evocative of the basic idea of the character. It gets a little over the top toward the end, but I find it a much more effectively dramatic and intense story than that others. And Freddy is clearly less hokey and silly than he is in the other movies. The new character design is a plus, and he's more outright mean and brutal than silly and fun.
It's maybe not as good a piece of entertainment as part 3, but all told I think it's a better film.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Oct 19, 2017 2:27:02 GMT
I liked it. A unique idea with lots of originality. And it was great to see Freddy more dark as opposed to being comical like he was in some of the other sequels.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 19, 2017 2:37:33 GMT
Haha what I remember about it is how BIG Craven's house was. Horror movies sure paid well.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Oct 19, 2017 8:01:09 GMT
9/10 Always dug it.
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Post by petrolino on Oct 21, 2017 3:04:49 GMT
Some things work, some surely don't, but I find it an interesting watch. I'm glad they tried something different, as opposed to churning out generic sequel number 7 you forget upon walking out the movie theatre. This picture is funny and intriguing.
Another experiment, partly due to loss of finance, was Lucio Fulci's 'A Cat In The Brain' (1990), which is what it is. There's a video show in front of a live audience where Fulci says he rowed with Craven over who came up with the idea first, but they were good, respectful friends nonetheless. Hell, both were riffing on Federico Fellini's ideas in '8½' (1963) so this is a complete nonsense; everybody takes from everybody, just be honest and acknowledge your influences. If not, you're delusional.
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Post by sagenesse on Oct 21, 2017 4:45:50 GMT
Its in my top 3 freddy flicks. Easily beating out every sequel but Dream Warriors. The original is the best. I do think it gets mostly back to the scarier side of freddy and left a lot of the one liners by the wayside. Ultimately im a fan of the Heather/Freddy dynamic. So to see that again was a huge strength. I agree. I've loved Nightmare On Elm Street since I was a teen. I love New Nightmare.
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Post by northernlad on Oct 22, 2017 16:01:51 GMT
I like it. It was good to see Freddy being dark and disturbing again. To me he stopped being disturbing somewhere around part 3 (which is a guilty pleasure) and he said "Welcome to prime time bitch!" lol The first NOES is definitely the best...but New Nightmare ain't half bad. The kid grates one me though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 5:32:26 GMT
I think Freddy is supposed to be dark and comedic at the same time like Chucky. Robert Englund even talked about Freddy's comedic parts being an important part of the character in an interview saying it made him more sadistic taking pleasure in killing people and it was actually Robert who came up with a lot of Freddy's lines like "Welcome to prime time bitch!" His personality is one of the main things that separates him from other slashers like Jason and Michael who didn't talk and the remake was so hated apart from Robert not being in it (and not being told he was getting replaced) was they tried to change the character too much to make him darker and fans hated. Freddy's comedic side is an essential part of the character and always will be.
That being said 'New Nightmare' was one of my favourites but I hated 'Freddy's Dead' 'cause they didn't bring back Alice and after beating Freddy twice the movies should have continued with Alice.
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