Do you know the origin of the term ULTRAS?

it was only used athe same time sampdoria used it - yes its a word and a latin one- but its about what it represented to football originally.the wrighting o the walls is what it meant rom smapdoria fans - the first club to associate the word with its group of fans , off course ultras was a word used to then use an acroym to fit as its a god fitting word. but sampdoria started it,

of course the  meaning know is very much about football territory and having fights over any thing else - 

if you are of another team in the ultras manor you will get abuse if not beaten up in many nations- firms are not like that - its that british origin about a fairness in war. we didn't use the cross bows because anyone untrained could use it . we stuck to bow and arrows for ages because is required skill ..... the ultra scene was ery political and territorial the firm culture was about sets of fans wanting to fight for an adeneline rush, not about politics in england  directly just a buzz but of course it was indirectly about the stae of the nation from a chance in politics.. the russians now who unlike italy started of copying the firm culture- of making a weekend of it - drinking , football fighting, drinking the of to work on monday. but combined with putins pushing masculinity on to the nation r` and militias orderd/paid by him to silence all the protesters - human rights , lgbt asap. who were far right and football fans anyway - the whole thing became not a weekend escape but a lifestyle choice. they want to prove to the world they are no.1

but the russians dont get it but then the european - even western  european nations see an england shirt and associat hooligans. when it was far from that.

however there was a period were england fans did go on the ramppage all over europe - i thnk they basically took over luxembourg and looted all the shops as well - the police could do, nothing. then we had the liverpool casuals running at italians who climbed over a wall and the wall collapsed killing 39 people , then not so long after hilsborgh happened,

now we have stil have firms at most clubs - but they al organise weeks in advance and meet in a park or something right out the way and fight, just because they like it. each to their own i suppose.

humans fight its part of life- and its there choice as long as noo ne else gets hurt - but like always the other nations are 30 years behind in good and bad things that we did.

there is a big cncern over the utras from many palace fans 

it started of beingcalled just the HF , more people get involved and it became HF ultras. now due the name even though the palace firm would murder them and the palace firm isnt exactly hardcore we are getting more and more bigotted and political people involved . and at he rate its going it will probably become an ultra group that gets in fights with the firms.stating south london is ours whiilst millwall firms laugh and think they are nerds and bigger issues are with ttt, west ha and chelsea - they could one day get battered by them .. it is a growing scene with more an more unemployed in the area, more and more people becoming ant establishment rather than what it first was made for - to make atmosphere at selhurst.  the problem is you copy the good parts of a bad scene - inevitably the bad will come with it.