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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 17:42:14 GMT
Are there any Colts fans here? I'm just curious; I wonder how Colts fans feel regarding their QB's injured reserve status. No return for him this season. Who knows if next year he'll be good, or rusty, with residual/lingering shoulder problems? Not his fault; I like Luck; the poor guy is injured; but I wonder if Colts fans feel disappointed. He came to the franchise with a lot of promise and fanfare but his potential has been largely unfulfilled. He didn't accomplish much; had great games but also awful ones with lots of turnovers.
So, now what? Do you still have faith in Andrew Luck, or think that your franchise needs to rebuild and look for someone else?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 17:48:33 GMT
Are there any Colts fans here? I'm just curious; I wonder how Colts fans feel regarding their QB's injured reserve status. No return for him this season. Who knows if next year he'll be good, or rusty, with residual/lingering shoulder problems? Not his fault; I like Luck; the poor guy is injured; but I wonder if Colts fans feel disappointed. He came to the franchise with a lot of promise and fanfare but his potential has been largely unfulfilled. He didn't accomplish much; had great games but also awful ones with lots of turnovers. So, now what? Do you still have faith in Andrew Luck, or think that your franchise needs to rebuild and look for someone else? I'm sorry. I get the injury. I get they decimated their team and have nothing around him. But.... But.... When people deem a QB the next Joe Montana without ever proving anything - maybe you need to 'step up' and carry a team on your back to the next level. This guy hasn't seen it. Next man up. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 20:06:24 GMT
Yes, there is always the part about the defensive line and the receivers... when a QB doesn't have good teammates in those positions it's hard to do well and it's easier to get injured.
Still, like you said, it seems like the fans expected a lot from him but he didn't really deliver the goods. An argument can be made that his big salary put a strain on the cap and prevented them from surrounding him with more protection and more weapons.
On the other hand, without the injury and in a better team, maybe Luck by now would have won a Super Bowl. It's a team sport after all; he can't do everything on his own.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Nov 3, 2017 20:33:22 GMT
Not a Colts fan but yeah I've been disappointed in Luck overall. He's a good QB no doubt, but he just hasn't been the MVP caliber player a lot of people expected. Too inconsistent and he can be a TO machine at times. It's not his fault the Colts have a crappy front office and have done a terrible job drafting people but with a QB as great as Luck is supposed to be they should win their division, especially since they are in the crappy AFC South. But they haven't been able to do that.
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 4, 2017 3:03:27 GMT
Are there any Colts fans here? Yes. And no, still trust in Luck. Management needs to build a better team around him. |
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 4, 2017 3:08:27 GMT
but with a QB as great as Luck is supposed to be they should win their division, especially since they are in the crappy AFC South. But they haven't been able to do that. It doesn't work like that, you should know better. Besides, "haven't been able to do that"? They won the division in 3/5 of Luck's seasons, and this one obviously doesn't count. |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Nov 4, 2017 3:27:32 GMT
They've won it 2 of 5 seasons, you should know that, and they haven't won it the last 2 years despite the division being crap, and if Luck was an elite QB, well an elite QB would win that division, that's what elite QB's do, lead weak teams to winning records. So Luck is good but not elite, and he was widely expected to be an elite QB which he hasn't been.
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Post by movielover on Nov 4, 2017 3:34:26 GMT
Not necessarily a Colts fan, but I blame the front office for not providing Luck with better pass protection, and I blame the coaching staff for not instructing Luck to not run so often and to not try and show how tough he is by taking so many unnecessary hits.
I still think Luck is great and would flourish under the right coach.
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 4, 2017 3:50:20 GMT
They've won it 2 of 5 seasons, you should know that, and they haven't won it the last 2 years despite the division being crap, and if Luck was an elite QB, well an elite QB would win that division, that's what elite QB's do, lead weak teams to winning records. So Luck is good but not elite, and he was widely expected to be an elite QB which he hasn't been. 2/5 is right, my bad on that. But it's the team that has wasted his prime, not him. We're also talking 11-5 and 8-8 in the seasons he didn't win the division, come on. You're gonna call him "not elite" on the basis of one game out of a winning record? Really? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 4:11:22 GMT
Yes, I think it is mostly the fault of the crappy team around him. Even great quarterbacks can't perform miracles.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Nov 4, 2017 4:13:38 GMT
I agree the Colts have done a terrible job in not getting any talent to surround Luck, but the guy's simply not elite. He's inconsistent and he has a turnover problem, he's a good QB but he's done nothing to put him in the elite category of QB's alongside guys such as Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Brees etc. I would put Luck on par with Stafford, both very good but not elite.
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