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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Nov 8, 2017 16:07:35 GMT
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 8, 2017 16:36:54 GMT
With guys like Jay Bruce, JD Martinez and Carlos Gonzalez (even though he had a rough year last year) available, there are certainly better options. But that articles paints a clear light by factoring in no-trade clauses and if the Cubs were to pick up some of Heyward's contract, that would net into a positive for the Giants. They'd be getting a plus defender in Heyward (that's really his only terrific attribute - he's otherwise grossly over-valued and disgustingly overpaid) and it would free up more cash for the 2018 free agent sweepstakes.
For the Cubs, getting rid of an albatross contract, getting an innings eater in Samardja and getting a strong bullpen arm in Melancon. He had been brilliant in the few years leading up to last year so he should be determined to redeem himself after last year's injury-shortened and otherwise shitty year.
This would be more of a dollars-and-cents move for both teams it seems.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Nov 8, 2017 17:16:11 GMT
With guys like Jay Bruce, JD Martinez and Carlos Gonzalez (even though he had a rough year last year) available, there are certainly better options. But that articles paints a clear light by factoring in no-trade clauses and if the Cubs were to pick up some of Heyward's contract, that would net into a positive for the Giants. They'd be getting a plus defender in Heyward (that's really his only terrific attribute - he's otherwise grossly over-valued and disgustingly overpaid) and it would free up more cash for the 2018 free agent sweepstakes. For the Cubs, getting rid of an albatross contract, getting an innings eater in Samardja and getting a strong bullpen arm in Melancon. He had been brilliant in the few years leading up to last year so he should be determined to redeem himself after last year's injury-shortened and otherwise shitty year. This would be more of a dollars-and-cents move for both teams it seems. agree. you think bruce goes back to the mets? giants should make a play for manny machado.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 8, 2017 18:56:23 GMT
With guys like Jay Bruce, JD Martinez and Carlos Gonzalez (even though he had a rough year last year) available, there are certainly better options. But that articles paints a clear light by factoring in no-trade clauses and if the Cubs were to pick up some of Heyward's contract, that would net into a positive for the Giants. They'd be getting a plus defender in Heyward (that's really his only terrific attribute - he's otherwise grossly over-valued and disgustingly overpaid) and it would free up more cash for the 2018 free agent sweepstakes. For the Cubs, getting rid of an albatross contract, getting an innings eater in Samardja and getting a strong bullpen arm in Melancon. He had been brilliant in the few years leading up to last year so he should be determined to redeem himself after last year's injury-shortened and otherwise shitty year. This would be more of a dollars-and-cents move for both teams it seems. agree. you think bruce goes back to the mets? giants should make a play for manny machado. I honestly don't think the Mets are going to make any additions via free agency because....they're the Mets. I'll delude myself into thinking they're going to make a play for Machado and thus they'll save their $$ for him and the inevitable extensions they'll give to deGrom and Synedergaard. No way I'm holding my breath though.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 8, 2017 19:23:49 GMT
Giants need to do something. If I was in charge, I'd save Bumgarner and Posey and trade everything else. The G-Men have a pathetic farm system and can't compete with the Dodgers, Diamondbacks or Rockies. If they want to pull a deal with the Cubs, I'd prefer Schwarber. He had an awful year but he has upside. You know what your getting with Heyward.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 8, 2017 20:00:05 GMT
Giants need to do something. If I was in charge, I'd save Bumgarner and Posey and trade everything else. The G-Men have a pathetic farm system and can't compete with the Dodgers, Diamondbacks or Rockies. If they want to pull a deal with the Cubs, I'd prefer Schwarber. He had an awful year but he has upside. You know what your getting with Heyward. It's funny, even with guys like Anthony Rizzo and Kris Bryant, Schwarber is the one that scares me when he's at the plate. You can pitch to Rizzo and Bryant. Obviously, they are stars and will decimate your mistakes but Schwarber, while not nearly as versatile a hitter, has the ability to swing and launch any pitch out of any ballpark. He's only 24, if he ever develops even a little bit of patience, he should be a pretty productive Adam Dunn type player.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Nov 8, 2017 21:48:24 GMT
Giants need to do something. If I was in charge, I'd save Bumgarner and Posey and trade everything else. The G-Men have a pathetic farm system and can't compete with the Dodgers, Diamondbacks or Rockies. If they want to pull a deal with the Cubs, I'd prefer Schwarber. He had an awful year but he has upside. You know what your getting with Heyward. It's funny, even with guys like Anthony Rizzo and Kris Bryant, Schwarber is the one that scares me when he's at the plate. You can pitch to Rizzo and Bryant. Obviously, they are stars and will decimate your mistakes but Schwarber, while not nearly as versatile a hitter, has the ability to swing and launch any pitch out of any ballpark. He's only 24, if he ever develops even a little bit of patience, he should be a pretty productive Adam Dunn type player. big time.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Nov 8, 2017 21:49:03 GMT
Giants need to do something. If I was in charge, I'd save Bumgarner and Posey and trade everything else. The G-Men have a pathetic farm system and can't compete with the Dodgers, Diamondbacks or Rockies. If they want to pull a deal with the Cubs, I'd prefer Schwarber. He had an awful year but he has upside. You know what your getting with Heyward. would be smart for the giants for sure.
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