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Post by kijii on Nov 9, 2017 19:05:31 GMT
Jeanne Crain won an Oscar nomination for the title role in Elia Kazan's socially conscious movie, Pinky (1949). But, other than that, she is mainly known for her "second banana" roles in 20th Century Fox movies. That is, she often seen as more than a character actress and less than an all-out star. Other notable exceptions to this "second banana" status of her career include (but are not limited to): Margie (1946) [Henry King] Apartment for Peggy (1948) [George Seaton] People Will Talk (1951) [Joseph L. Mankiewicz] Vicki (1953) [Harry Horner] She seemed to be an important team player in: State Fair (1945) [Walter Lang] www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMtuq3xX6eYLeave Her to Heaven (1945) [John M. Stahl] where she played "the girl with the hoe" to Gene Tierney dramatic lead role. A Letter to Three Wives (1949) [Joseph L. Mankiewicz] (one of the three wives). Cheaper by the Dozen (1950) [Walter Lang] and Belles on Their Toes (1952) [Henry Levin] in which she played he eldest of the Gilbreth children. However, as I attempt to progress through my viewing completion of Otto Preminger-directed movies, her name does pop up from time to time: In the Meantime, Darling (1944) which got poor reviews. www.youtube.com/watch?v=QieIOAnUt2MCentennial Summer (1946) which I cannot find except in a poor-quality on YouTube version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=58uFI-xoniA. The Fan (1949) in which she played Lady Windermere, imbeded within a fairly good cast. ---but this only takes us to the early 50s. Jeanne Crain was a devout catholic --with 7 children and one marriage (rocky at one point) that lasted 58 years. What do you think of her career and which are some of her movies that you enjoyed the most?
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Nov 9, 2017 19:20:31 GMT
I've really enjoyed seeing her in a number of films, many of which you've listed. I'm watching her right now in a rather corny musical comedy from 1955, with Jane Russell, Rudy Vallee et al, called Gentlemen Marry Brunettes. I think Jane Russell was supposed to be the big-name star of this, but I find I'm looking at Jeanne Crain way more than Jane Russell. Some nice Paris filming locations in this one, too, btw.
Another one I really liked seeing her in was Guns of the Timberland (1960), with Alan Ladd. In glorious Technicolor. She looked amazing in that one.
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Post by SuperDevilDoctor on Nov 9, 2017 19:23:48 GMT
She's in HOT RODS TO HELL (1967), too.
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Post by teleadm on Nov 9, 2017 19:31:54 GMT
I don't don't know why, but I have a certain weakness for State Fair 1945. Gene Tiereny made such a strong impression in Leave Her to Heaven 1945, that I had totally forgotten she was in it. Since her name usually was on the posters she must have had a star vallue that attracted audiences. In The Fastest Gun Alive 1956 and The Joker is Wild 1957, the other actors had such dramatic and flashy roles, I had there too forgotten she was in them. ![](https://assets.mubi.com/images/film/125699/image-w384.jpg?1445961297) Though she was appropriately cast as Nerfertiti in Queen of the Nile 1961, an Italian made spectacle.
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Post by snsurone on Nov 9, 2017 20:01:22 GMT
She was beautiful and a very good actress. I especially loved her long, wavy hair in LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN, and was saddened when she cut it in the '50's. Made her look too "matronly".
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 9, 2017 20:35:44 GMT
Hmmm...should I share this opinion or not? Well, you asked, so...
Jeanne Crain, along with her contemporary Eleanor Parker, would top my list among the most bland, colorless, by-the-numbers actresses to make names for themselves during the studio system years of the '40s-'50s. Given their longevity, there was obviously a market for "All-American Girls" more than pretty enough to grace the big screen but neither so intimidatingly beautiful or glamorous nor of outsized or unique personality that their acceptance might be limited in any way.
Capable enough and always adequate but in no way remarkable or possessed of a special spark that set her apart, she just left me pretty much cold. The one exception I'd make where Crain was concerned was a first season appearance on Burke's Law ("Who Killed the Eleventh Best Dressed Woman in the World," one of three she made on the show), a series in which every episode featured a collection of "guest suspects" and provided opportunities for familiar, maturing players to strut their stuff, throwing off restraints and having fun with the sorts of colorful, against-type characterizations their film roles didn't normally accord.
That being the case, I'll allow that there may have been a much more interesting actress lurking under her surface that was never allowed to emerge during her heyday, and that's something I'd consider a shame and a loss.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 9, 2017 20:39:12 GMT
She was beautiful and a very good actress. I especially loved her long, wavy hair in LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN, and was saddened when she cut it in the '50's. Made her look too "matronly". Those too-short, housewifey but vaguely boyish bobs of the '50s didn't do anyone any favors.
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Post by snsurone on Nov 9, 2017 20:47:52 GMT
Dog, I would put Anne Baxter at an even lower level than Crain and Parker. IMHO, she was more wooden than Howdy Doody! I can't imagine how she became a star, much less won an Oscar. But then, in the '40's, anyone who played a drunk was assured of at least an Oscar nod, if not the award itself. Which may explain why Baxter, Ray Milland, and Van Heflin all won and Dan Dailey was nominated.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 9, 2017 21:10:17 GMT
Dog, I would put Anne Baxter at an even lower level than Crain and Parker. IMHO, she was more wooden than Howdy Doody! I can't imagine how she became a star, much less won an Oscar. That's a criticism I've seen leveled at Baxter from many quarters. Another is a tendency toward a certain breathy artifice, which may have worked in her favor in All About Eve, in which she played a manipulative phony who was able to take in others whose self-absorbed egos blinded them to being conned, but which became more heavy-handed as the years went on.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 9, 2017 21:39:11 GMT
They used to show 'Dangerous Crossing' (1953) all the time.
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Post by snsurone on Nov 9, 2017 21:52:12 GMT
Dog, I would put Anne Baxter at an even lower level than Crain and Parker. IMHO, she was more wooden than Howdy Doody! I can't imagine how she became a star, much less won an Oscar. That's a criticism I've seen leveled at Baxter from many quarters. Another is a tendency toward a certain breathy artifice, which may have worked in her favor in All About Eve, in which she played a manipulative phony who was able to take in others whose self-absorbed egos blinded them to being conned, but which became more heavy-handed as the years went on. I'm glad to know that I'm not alone in my assessment of Baxter's (lack of) talent.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 9, 2017 22:40:49 GMT
That's a criticism I've seen leveled at Baxter from many quarters. Another is a tendency toward a certain breathy artifice, which may have worked in her favor in All About Eve, in which she played a manipulative phony who was able to take in others whose self-absorbed egos blinded them to being conned, but which became more heavy-handed as the years went on. I'm glad to know that I'm not alone in my assessment of Baxter's (lack of) talent. Oh, no, you're not alone. But being completely honest, even Baxter doesn't bore me the way Crain and Parker do. Some players are watchable even when doing poor work. Ginger Rogers, for example: in the '30s, she exhibited fresh and creative spontaneity that stood out; in the '40s, her performances became mannered and cloying; by the '50s, she was doing some cringe-worthy work. Joan Crawford and Loretta Young followed similar trajectories, losing much of their early electricity and becoming grandly ossified. But they were always magnetic and watchable, even when over-the-top, trying too hard or not trying hard enough. I realize my impressions are purely subjective, and enough ticket-buyers must have seen something in Crain and Parker to keep them on the screen for so long. It's just that whatever it was, it mostly escaped me.
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Post by snsurone on Nov 9, 2017 23:00:26 GMT
Dog, I was never a fan of Loretta Young with one exception: her performance in THE BISHOP'S WIFE. It seems that the role was almost written for her. IMHO, it's one of the best Christmas movies ever made, along with the 1950 version of A CHRISTMAS CAROL. As for Joan Crawford, I agree that she was damned good in some of her early roles. In fact, I believe she should have won an Oscar for her performance in GRAND HOTEL. But I do agree that her later movies were sheer nightmares, for which I blame on her alcoholism and mental illness.
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Post by kijii on Nov 10, 2017 15:17:40 GMT
I especially enjoyed her in Pinky, State Fair and A Letter to Three Wives. Don't remember her in Leave Her to Heaven. Admittedly not a great actress but an enjoyable one in the right roles. And I did think she was really fine in her Oscar nominated Pinky, no doubt because of the inspiration of director Kazan and her wonderful co-stars, Ethel Waters and Ethel Barrymore. Be sure to put her in the Long marriages thread, if you haven't already. In Leaver Her to Heaven, she was played Ruth Berent, "the gal with the hoe" to whom Wilde dedicated his book. That seemed to make Gene Tierney (Ellen Berent Harland) more than a little jealous. Pinky featured THREE great performer as you stated: Ethel Waters and Ethel Barrymore each received Oscar nominations as Best Supporting Actresses here.
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Post by petrolino on Nov 11, 2017 4:14:48 GMT
Jeanne Crain
Linda Darnell
Anne Baxter
Gene Tierney
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