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Post by Eλευθερί on Nov 11, 2017 22:06:21 GMT
I can't be the only person (other than a friend who originally told me about it) who has seen The Knick. If you haven't seen it, you should take a look.
It aired on Cinemax, but is available on DVD or through other outlets now.
It's set in New York City in 1900, just a few years before the Downton Abbey period, at the fictional Knickerbocker Hospital ("The Knick"). Clive Owens plays a brilliant, pioneering surgeon who has a massive ego and a nasty cocaine & opium addiction. It's an adult period drama that weaves together plotlines involving corruption of the robber baron class, the struggles of New York's Irish immigrants, racism & antisemitism in the medical profession, abortion politics, severe mental illness, turn-of-the-century feminism, and a fair dose of sex. There are opium dens and prostitutes, mobsters who cut off body parts when clients don't pay up--even the famous case of the health department tracking down Typhoid Mary. But it's not all heavy stuff, there's a lot of humor too. One of the best scenes involves the surgeon insisting that the only doctor he trusts to perform the surgery to treat his own acute appendicitis is himself.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Nov 11, 2017 23:37:51 GMT
I really enjoyed this show too (I watched Seasons 1 & 2 on Blu-ray). The directing was amazing. It and the music lent so much to the overall 'feel' of the series. As gross as some of the medical procedures could be, I think it was just at the right level and not too over-the-top (at least in my opinion, anyway). All the characters and their different dynamics were very interesting.
I know Gallinger was a rather horrible person, but I did enjoy seeing Eric Johnson (who played Lana's boyfriend, Whitney, in Season 1 of Smallville) playing another unlikable character. I'd actually seen him beforehand in an episode of Supernatural and he conveyed menace very well there when playing a demon. Seems he's making quite the career out of it, playing yet another unlikable fellow in the Fifty Shades Darker movie. However, on the commentaries, he's quite amusing (as is Jeremy Bobb who played Barrow) and everyone makes it quite clear that he's nothing like his character in real life.
Also, the series introduced me to Eve Hewson, for which I am grateful (I wish Lucy and Bertie could've been a thing, but it was not to be). I really liked Juliet Rylance as Cornelia and how Thackery came to gradually 'respect' Algernon in his own way. Sister Harriet and Cleary also had an interesting relationship.
I know the series was cancelled, though I think I'd read somewhere that there was talk of it coming back with the actors playing different characters or something like that. While on the one hand I would've liked to see these actors again, if it had continued, I'm not sure it would have had the same 'feel' to it as the first two seasons (which would be a shame, as everything came together to make the series what it was - the acting, the directing, sets, costumes and music).
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Post by DarkManX on Nov 12, 2017 0:34:57 GMT
The Knick could be one of the greatest TV shows I have ever seen. The writing, the acting, and the directing were all fantastic. I loved how they took cues from history and mixed it with fictional elements. It was nice to see a famous actor in a show like this and having the same director and writers throughout kept the show on an unwavering track. It is a shame it won't be seeing a third season.
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Post by hi224 on Nov 12, 2017 3:21:38 GMT
Definitely an underrated series which wouldve further explored the whole evolution regarding medicine.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 12, 2017 3:48:13 GMT
I'm in.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Nov 12, 2017 20:41:15 GMT
The Knick could be one of the greatest TV shows I have ever seen. The writing, the acting, and the directing were all fantastic. I loved how they took cues from history and mixed it with fictional elements. It was nice to see a famous actor in a show like this and having the same director and writers throughout kept the show on an unwavering track. It is a shame it won't be seeing a third season. It is a great show, but I did have a few bones to pick with it. For one, although Clive Owens is a very sexy guy, I couldn't stand that little mustache the character always had. It always looked like it was cut slightly crookedly, and he looked ridiculous with it. I also hated those white shoes/boots he always wore. Which brings me to the next peeve: there were almost no characters that were really likeable in the show. It was interesting to follow their escapades, but each of them was so deeply flawed in some fundamental way. Obviously, there's no law that there must be a character that you rally like, but it helps. And by that, I don't mean that the character has to be some kind of angel. Bryan Cranston's Walter White in Breaking Bad was a deeply flawed man, but you couldn't help rooting for him through the show (same with his sidekick). I guess the one other major annoyance for me was the color schemes and lighting they used. Except for when they were under the operating theatre lights, everything seemed dark, and gauzy all the time, creating a tight, claustrophobic feeling for me. I'm sure they were aiming for that, and to a certain extent it probably made the show more realistic since that's probably how things were to a large extent (especially with all the scenes in the bordellos and poorly lit basements and tenement rooms), but it got on my nerves.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Nov 12, 2017 20:57:50 GMT
I loved how they took cues from history and mixed it with fictional elements. Definitely an underrated series which wouldve further explored the whole evolution regarding medicine. Yeah, they did a fantastic job drawing from real-life medical issues and medical history. A lot of viewers probably don't realize it. For example, there's a storyline that involves a woman who lost her nose to the ravages of syphilis. That could actually happen back in the era before penicillin was available to treat syphilis. The surgeon reconstructed her nose using a procedure in which skin from her inner arm was transplanted to the nose, and she had to keep her arm bound up for weeks until the grafted skin could grow a blood supply on the nose, after which the surgeon could cut the attachment from the arm. That kind technique of grafting is actually used in plastic surgery (well, going from the arm to the nose it kind of dramatic, and I don't know if that specifically is ever used, but going from, say, the forehead down to the nose, or from behind the ear to in front of the ear is definitely used). And the whole idea of the lead surgeon being a drug addict sounds just like legendary surgeon William Halsted (1852 - 1922), who became addicted to cocaine and morphine. Wikipedia
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Post by poelzig on Nov 14, 2017 7:16:45 GMT
I enjoyed it. I particularly enjoyed all the drug use and the score was brilliant. The season finale where they show Owen's Doctor going to rehab and the cure for his crippling cocaine and opium addiction was Bayer's new miracle drug.....heroin was great. The contented peaceful smile on Owen's face was perfect. However, it's another one of those shows that has people smoking a few puffs of opium and then drifting off to sleep. I've asked countless people over the years if they have or even know anyone who has smoked opium and experienced anything even close to that to no avail. Is the opium den thing and the effects just a movie creation? Considering much of China succumbed to opium addiction in the past, I find it hard to believe the effects a friend of mine described after trying opium was actual opium. What's up with that yo?
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Post by hi224 on Nov 14, 2017 8:32:21 GMT
I enjoyed it. I particularly enjoyed all the drug use and the score was brilliant. The season finale where they show Owen's Doctor going to rehab and the cure for his crippling cocaine and opium addiction was Bayer's new miracle drug.....heroin was great. The contented peaceful smile on Owen's face was perfect. However, it's another one of those shows that has people smoking a few puffs of opium and then drifting off to sleep. I've asked countless people over the years if they have or even know anyone who has smoked opium and experienced anything even close to that to no avail. Is the opium den thing and the effects just a movie creation? Considering much of China succumbed to opium addiction in the past, I find it hard to believe the effects a friend of mine described after trying opium was actual opium. What's up with that yo? I did too regarding the drug use. I cant stand when movies go too hyperrealistic in showing drug use. An aspect that bothered me regarding Vinyl.
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Post by 5hole on Nov 15, 2017 4:13:05 GMT
Good show. It's ranked number #189 on IMDb. I might actually put it in the top 50.
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