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Post by Marv on Mar 6, 2017 14:09:32 GMT
There are no agnostics in foxholes. But I'll tell you what there are, foxes! You don't know fear until you've stared down the muzzle of a hungry litter of fox cubs.
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 7, 2017 0:01:22 GMT
If you haven't decided whether you believe in god, then you don't believe in god. that statement makes no sense, look at it, you are saying "if you have not decided between A and B, that means you have decided on A" The statement makes perfect sense. IF you believe in god, then the answer to the question "do you believe in god" can only be "yes." If you "don't know" then you obviously don't believe or the answer would simply be yes. There is no state between belief and non belief.
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Post by bonerxmas on Mar 7, 2017 1:00:06 GMT
that statement makes no sense, look at it, you are saying "if you have not decided between A and B, that means you have decided on A" The statement makes perfect sense. IF you believe in god, then the answer to the question "do you believe in god" can only be "yes." If you "don't know" then you obviously don't believe or the answer would simply be yes. There is no state between belief and non belief. but answer i give is "i dont yet know if i should believe that" and you think that is the same as saying " i dont believe that", believe and non belief are both postitions that require affirmative commitment, you are trying to establish non belief as a default category but there is no way you can do that unless you are just sloppy about using language
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 7, 2017 1:13:57 GMT
The statement makes perfect sense. IF you believe in god, then the answer to the question "do you believe in god" can only be "yes." If you "don't know" then you obviously don't believe or the answer would simply be yes. There is no state between belief and non belief. but answer i give is "i dont yet know if i should believe that" and you think that is the same as saying " i dont believe that", believe and non belief are both postitions that require affirmative commitment, you are trying to establish non belief as a default category but there is no way you can do that unless you are just sloppy about using language But, if you don't know if you believe it, then you objectively do not believe it. This isn't rocket science. Believe - to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing. So if you say "I don't know" then you don't have confidence in the truth or existence of the thing. Thus you don't believe.
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