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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 17, 2017 5:35:04 GMT
I would definitely dump the Joker movie and Batgirl movie, but that's just me. Hell yeah! Agreed with this. No way in hell either of these need to happen. I was hesitant to include Gotham City Sirens, but Harley Quinn is such a popular character now. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 17, 2017 5:41:04 GMT
I would definitely dump the Joker movie and Batgirl movie, but that's just me. Hell yeah! Agreed with this. No way in hell either of these need to happen. I honestly do not see the point of either. Joker's origins are best left in the dark, that's what makes him the most interesting. Batgirl I rather appear in a Batman movie, there's only so much you can do with Barb on her own. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 17, 2017 5:42:24 GMT
Hell yeah! Agreed with this. No way in hell either of these need to happen. I was hesitant to include Gotham City Sirens, but Harley Quinn is such a popular character now. I don't see much story potential with that one, either to be honest. Maybe a short, but not a feature film. Speaking of, maybe DC should try that with some of these otherwise 'wtf' movie ideas? Might as well as this point, right? |
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Post by northernlad on Nov 17, 2017 5:42:25 GMT
Hell yeah! Agreed with this. No way in hell either of these need to happen. I honestly do not see the point of either. Joker's origins are best left in the dark, that's what makes him the most interesting. Batgirl I rather appear in a Batman movie, there's only so much you can do with Barb on her own. Definitely. Batgirl should never even be considered in a solo film. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 17, 2017 5:44:40 GMT
I was hesitant to include Gotham City Sirens, but Harley Quinn is such a popular character now. I don't see much story potential with that one, either to be honest. Maybe a short, but not a feature film. Speaking of, maybe DC should try that with some of these otherwise 'wtf' movie ideas? Might as well as this point, right? Yeah, plus I don't want David Ayer touching another DC film again after Suicide Squad. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 6:08:26 GMT
I've lost a lot for respect for Whedon this year - First he returns to Twitter and writes some of the most bafflingly stupid things ever, then his wife reveals he cheated on her multiple times over, and now he's being very unprofessional about a movie he worked on on the eve of its release. Reminds me of the Josh Trank Fan4stic situation. That movie turned out to be a massive dumpster fire reportedly because of studio interference so he bad mouthed the film right before it came out and it completely tanked if I remember right by epic proportions. Joss Whedon bad mouthing the JL films villain seems to be in the same vein as what happened with Trank. Trank felt like what came out wasn't his film and in the same way since Whedon came out late because of the sad Snyder family issues which is obviously terrible but he probably came into a no win situation for him. How much was he really going to be able to fix? It's indeed not his movie (I believe Snyder is still credited as the only Director) so at the same time I can see how he doesn't want to be viewed as the guy who ruined this. Either way things like this really hurt a directors relationship with studio's and it's honestly hard to blame the studio's if a guy who worked on it is bashing the film before it releases. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 6:41:12 GMT
I don't see much story potential with that one, either to be honest. Maybe a short, but not a feature film. Speaking of, maybe DC should try that with some of these otherwise 'wtf' movie ideas? Might as well as this point, right? Yeah, plus I don't want David Ayer touching another DC film again after Suicide Squad. Can Suicide Squad really be considered his fault considering he had no control? |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 17, 2017 6:48:43 GMT
Yeah, plus I don't want David Ayer touching another DC film again after Suicide Squad. Can Suicide Squad really be considered his fault considering he had no control? I guess you're right, but looking at Ayer's track record, it look like Suicide Squad was doomed from the start. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 6:53:09 GMT
Can Suicide Squad really be considered his fault considering he had no control? I guess you're right, but looking at Ayer's track record, it look like Suicide Squad was doomed from the start. I admit he doesn't have a great track record, but I thought his previous was at least better than Suicide Squad. Ayer has always struck as the type of director who can deliver if he's given a solid script to work with. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 17, 2017 6:54:09 GMT
I guess you're right, but looking at Ayer's track record, it look like Suicide Squad was doomed from the start. I admit he doesn't have a great track record, but I thought his previous was at least better than Suicide Squad. Ayer has always struck as the type of director who can deliver if he's given a solid script to work with. Yeah, End of Watch was good. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 6:58:25 GMT
I admit he doesn't have a great track record, but I thought his previous was at least better than Suicide Squad. Ayer has always struck as the type of director who can deliver if he's given a solid script to work with. Yeah, End of Watch was good. Oh, yeah! Stephen King for the win! |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 17, 2017 7:24:45 GMT
Yeah, End of Watch was good. Oh, yeah! Stephen King for the win! Uh...End of Watch wasn't based on the Stephen King novel of the same name. |
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Post by miike80 on Nov 17, 2017 7:41:08 GMT
The release date is fine. I think we all knew Thor wasn't going to do Avengers numbers, so it wouldn't hurt JL much at all 2 weeks later. Star Wars isn't even a factor. That is a whole month away. Comic book movies make most of their money within that time period anyway. The money is a fanboy thing, I think we should all agree on that one. It is a way to start fights. At the end of the day the studio wants profit, JL will delivery that. Flaspoint seems to still be up in the air. Announced, yes, but with no script, writer or director. I hope it is just a regular Flash movie as it is clear most people liked Ezra Miller as the Flash. Yeah, but can JL make enough profit to satisfy them? That's the issue. Flashpoint is unfortunately as far from a regular Flash movie as you can get in and of itself. I'd rather they just not do Flash at all and just start simple. Well, i heard that if Justice League doesn't do good bussiness they might drop Flashpoint... |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 17, 2017 8:08:16 GMT
Yeah, but can JL make enough profit to satisfy them? That's the issue. Flashpoint is unfortunately as far from a regular Flash movie as you can get in and of itself. I'd rather they just not do Flash at all and just start simple. Well, i heard that if Justice League doesn't do good bussiness they might drop Flashpoint... Probably do more stand alone movies I'm guessing, which we've been hearing about was to be the main focus from there on out for sometime with crossovers being scarce and in between. |
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Post by merh on Nov 17, 2017 10:44:22 GMT
Payback for a decade of harassment and belittlement is a bitch and its time to pay the Piper. Now you're just blabbering incoherently. We discussed the old IMDb. It was my baptism by fire. I had used that site to see who this or that actor was, but only joined the message board to discuss Thor. I migrated over to the Avengers board which was like sheep peacefully grazing with the wolves raiding from time to time. People kept making threads to discuss Batman & others asked why only to be told it was because TDKR board sucked by being full of Nolan zealots & children (ok, teens) so I checked that board out. Oh my good heavens. Threads asking which Batactress poster would have backdoor sex with. One thread that stood out "Tell me to do my homework." And, yeah, posting any opinion other than Nolan's vision of Batman was The Only Batman That Should Ever Be Acknowledged was shouted down. I got so many red warnings. We had a fun Coulson thread get removed by battrolls getting vulgar on it. We lost all our actual postings to raids by TDKR gang burying all our legitimate threads 3 to 10 pages back with the front pages being dedicated to pushups & warning about some Harry guy one needed to put a red x in one's signature or he would come after one. But it was the Nolan zealots who were the worst |
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Post by merh on Nov 17, 2017 10:52:02 GMT
I've lost a lot for respect for Whedon this year - First he returns to Twitter and writes some of the most bafflingly stupid things ever, then his wife reveals he cheated on her multiple times over, and now he's being very unprofessional about a movie he worked on on the eve of its release. Is Steppenwolf the villain for JLA? Or should we see someone from their early issues? Loki was the first villain for the Avengers, the one that brought them together which Marvel preserved in the movie. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 17, 2017 11:55:12 GMT
I don't know who it is, maybe it's Whedon, maybe it's somebody else, I have no idea, but they need a lynch pin who can get directors in line with a larger plan but also allow them to work their vision into that plan while providing them with the resources to do so. That ain't easy but anything less will continue to look like a cheap imitation and they'll have permanently damaged their brand by the end of the next decade. I know that sounds like a long time, but these things take years of planning and ever more time to build up a reputation, and even then they still have to get out of the crater they've just dug themselves.
A soft relaunch would be my idea. Do the solo movies for Flash(no Flashpoint), Aquaman(coming next year), Cyborg, Batman, and Superman and Wonder Woman sequels. Then have Darkseid for JL2 somewhere within the next decade. Dosn't that sound like a reasonable plan where you don't blow everything up and start over. Because if that happens its going to be a direct copy of the MCU. We will see little to no difference and that would just be boring. Honestly, and I'm being serious, it sounds like nothing anybody but specifically dc comic fans will care about. |
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Post by charzhino on Nov 17, 2017 12:20:36 GMT
Steppenwolfe is very, very cliched. Terrible monotonous voice and the CGI on his face looks like a video game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 12:31:55 GMT
Well, I can't blame him. They did steal the Beast from Season 4 of 'Angel' for this movie. 
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Post by chasallnut on Nov 17, 2017 12:42:26 GMT
 Ouch. When not even the guy you begged to finish your movie for you can refrain from admitting what a crap product JL is, you know its bad.
Well if you call liking a couple of tweets saying the villain was bad, admitting what a crap product JL is then you are deranged or trolling, and I will go with the latter.
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