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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 17, 2017 8:29:16 GMT
I've never seen Catwoman or Steel so I can't rate those movies since I never rate movies that I haven't seen. But I have seen 70 superhero movies over the past 4 decades. So here for the 1st time is my unbiased and fair ratings for the 70 superhero movies that I've seen over the past 4 decades:
10/10 Spider-Man 2 Superman: The Movie The Dark Knight Wonder Woman
9/10 Spider-Man Superman II
8/10 Aquaman X2: X-Men United X-Men: Days of Future Past
7/10 The Dark Knight Rises Justice League X-Men: Apocalypse X-Men: First Class
6/10 Batman Batman Begins Batman Forever Batman Returns Fantastic Four (2005) Hero at Large Man of Steel X-Men: The Movie
5/10 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Deadpool Deadpool 2 Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer Kick-Ass Kick-Ass 2 Logan Power Rangers Sky High Super Swamp Thing The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Green Hornet Venom
4/10 Batman & Robin Green Lantern Spider-Man 3 Supergirl Superman III Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
3/10 Avengers: Infinity War Captain America: The Winter Soldier Suicide Squad Superman Returns
2/10 Daredevil Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance Hulk Iron Man The Avengers X-Men: The Last Stand
1/10 Ant-Man Ant-Man and the Wasp The Avengers Avengers: Age of Ultron Black Panther Captain America: Civil War Captain America: The First Avenger Doctor Strange Elektra Fantastic Four (2015) Ghost Rider Guardians of the Galaxy Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Iron Man 2 Iron Man 3 Max Steel Punisher: War Zone Spider-Man: Homecoming The Incredible Hulk The Punisher (1989) The Punisher (2004) The Wolverine Thor Thor: Ragnarok Thor: The Dark World X-Men Origins: Wolverine
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Post by sostie on Nov 17, 2017 11:16:19 GMT
How many of these have you seen? You HAVE lied in the past about seeing films you've rated.
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 17, 2017 12:33:28 GMT
How many of these have you seen? You HAVE lied in the past about seeing films you've rated. It does not matter. It is a troll thread. He is the biggest troll on these boards.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 19, 2017 2:16:52 GMT
While I can understand why DC-Fan continually includes this phrase, what with his expressed admiration for DC's films at the expense of Marvel's, its constant repetition reminds me--ahem, ahem--of one of the Bard's most famous lines.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 19, 2017 6:15:32 GMT
How many of these have you seen? You HAVE lied in the past about seeing films you've rated. I've seen all 70 of the movies listed above. I've never rated a movie that I haven't seen.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 19, 2017 6:16:13 GMT
How many of these have you seen? You HAVE lied in the past about seeing films you've rated. It does not matter. It is a troll thread. He is the biggest troll on these boards. I'm not a troll.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 19, 2017 6:17:18 GMT
what with his expressed admiration for DC's films at the expense of Marvel's I have Spider-Man 2 in my top 5 best superhero movies of all time and Spider-Man in my top 10 superhero movies of all time.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Nov 19, 2017 16:16:35 GMT
I never rate a film a 1, never. I absolutely hated Iron Man 3 for how they treated the Mandarin, but still gave it a 3.
And Winter Soldier is one of the greatest comic book movies ever made in my opinion.
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Post by dazz on Nov 19, 2017 16:37:39 GMT
It does not matter. It is a troll thread. He is the biggest troll on these boards. I'm not a troll. So you say...from under your bridge.
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Post by dazz on Nov 19, 2017 16:50:03 GMT
Dude you do realise right this just shows how mentally stunted you are right, and that you are insane, you rated no MCU film above a 3 yet you watched all of them, I watched 20 minutes of a Hellraiser film once and hated it, I saw 30 minutes of Saw and hated it, I watched Daredevil and felt bored, so guess what I never watched another Hellraiser, Saw or Elektra after because I knew they just weren't for me, the fact you keep watching MCU films despite not liking a single one shows what a prat you must be.
Also your need to repeatedly say your fair and unbiased as I said before just highlights the fact you aren't, because I know I'm not a homophobe, racist or sexist I don't feel the need to preface everything I say by stating that, you know your full of shit and so does everyone else...so why not do away with the bullshit and just own it.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 19, 2017 19:56:17 GMT
Dude you do realise right this just shows how mentally stunted you are right, and that you are insane, you rated no MCU film above a 3 yet you watched all of them Like I've explained before, I'm always unbiased and fair so I give each movie a fair chance by watching it without any preconceived opinions. I watched 20 minutes of a Hellraiser film once and hated it, I saw 30 minutes of Saw and hated it, I watched Daredevil and felt bored, so guess what I never watched another Hellraiser, Saw or Elektra after because I knew they just weren't for me, the fact you keep watching MCU films despite not liking a single one shows what a prat you must be. No, like I said, I give each movie a fair chance by watching it without any preconceived notions.
For example, I thought Star Trek: The Motion Picture was boring. So according to your flawed logic, I should've stopped watching any more Star Trek movies. But when Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn was released, I watched that and it was great. I also liked Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home but Star Trek V: The Final Frontier wasn't all that good. But I continued to watch Star Trek movies, and I liked Star Trek: First Contact.
The first 2 Terminator movies were great, the rest not so much. Similar with the Die Hard movies. Similar with the Indiana Jones movies. Similar with the X-Men movies. I liked X-Men United, First Class, and Days of Future Past but didn't like The Last Stand.
Most franchises has better movies as well as really awful movies. (The only exceptions are The Dark Knight Trilogy and the Back to the Future trilogy. Some of those movies were better but none of those movies were bad.) So I give each movie a fair chance by watching it without any preconceive notions, regardless of how a previous movie in the franchise was.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 20:00:03 GMT
those scores are crap.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 19, 2017 20:14:04 GMT
what with his expressed admiration for DC's films at the expense of Marvel's I have Spider-Man 2 in my top 5 best superhero movies of all time and Spider-Man in my top 10 superhero movies of all time. Capisco, amico mio. I also don't have universally-shared tastes in movies, even comic-book movies: I'm not particularly fond of The Dark Knight, for one, and Spider-Man 2 would also be one of my favorite superhero movies. I meant that your expressed preference for one over the other has to do with the films coming out now (with this "cinematic universe" bit, a conceit I dislike). My comment referenced your repeated phrase "unbiased and fair." As stated, I have some unusual choices as well, but I don't feel the continual need to call my rankings "unbiased and fair." Just present them: "I've seen these movies, this is what I think of them. If you disagree, let's talk, but they're what I like." De gustibus and all that.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 19, 2017 22:09:54 GMT
So here for the 1st time is my unbiased and fair ratings 1) You're lying about being unbiased and fair. 2) You're a thief.
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Post by dazz on Nov 20, 2017 0:57:27 GMT
Dude you do realise right this just shows how mentally stunted you are right, and that you are insane, you rated no MCU film above a 3 yet you watched all of them Like I've explained before, I'm always unbiased and fair so I give each movie a fair chance by watching it without any preconceived opinions. I watched 20 minutes of a Hellraiser film once and hated it, I saw 30 minutes of Saw and hated it, I watched Daredevil and felt bored, so guess what I never watched another Hellraiser, Saw or Elektra after because I knew they just weren't for me, the fact you keep watching MCU films despite not liking a single one shows what a prat you must be. No, like I said, I give each movie a fair chance by watching it without any preconceived notions.
For example, I thought Star Trek: The Motion Picture was boring. So according to your flawed logic, I should've stopped watching any more Star Trek movies. But when Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn was released, I watched that and it was great. I also liked Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home but Star Trek V: The Final Frontier wasn't all that good. But I continued to watch Star Trek movies, and I liked Star Trek: First Contact.
The first 2 Terminator movies were great, the rest not so much. Similar with the Die Hard movies. Similar with the Indiana Jones movies. Similar with the X-Men movies. I liked X-Men United, First Class, and Days of Future Past but didn't like The Last Stand.
Most franchises has better movies as well as really awful movies. (The only exceptions are The Dark Knight Trilogy and the Back to the Future trilogy. Some of those movies were better but none of those movies were bad.) So I give each movie a fair chance by watching it without any preconceive notions, regardless of how a previous movie in the franchise was.
You have admitted in another thread that you don't though go in without preconceived notions, you hated X-Men 3 because it diverged from the comics by not making Cyclops a main character, now I'm not defending X3 because imo it's fucking dogshit, but you didn't cite the stupid main story, waste of characters, meaningless side story that went no where, outright silliness of some of the characters & their tactics, you cited it's not like the comics, there by showing a bias going in and a preconceived notion of what the film should be.
Also it's common sense that if you watch a film, and makes a lot of money, is considered both a financial and critical success, but you don't like anything about it, that you wont continue to watch films in that series if you hate them because there is no reasons for them to change things up, where as Star Trek TMP was a financially underwhelming film with low critical or fan approval, also it had the TV show, so if you liked the TV show, hated the film and had a reasonable expectation that the next film would improve on the first, that's a fair chance to take, because the first film did not do what the studio thought it would so expecting change makes sense, also makes sense if you hated the first but then hear the 2nd is actually getting good word of mouth or was well received to check it out.
But to keep going back and watching a franchise that has had no trashed films and have a 90% or more hit to miss financial record and expecting them to suddenly change the working formula which you hate to a unproven one you may like is idiotic, I watched the first Saw film which is one of the better regarded and hated it, I also heard the series just goes more and more into the same shit I disliked, Hellraiser I'm pretty sure was the first I watched which is again one of the better regarded in the franchise, I hated it so I knew if I dislike this and the others just get worse I'm not going to like them, it's just common sense,
To repeatedly go back and watch the newest MCU films when you have not liked ANY of their prior works shows what a fucking idiot you are, and if you don't see that then you are dumber than I give you credit for, it's one thing to go back if the films are hit and miss but you say they go from bad to god awful so why keep giving them chances?
The fact you rate them so low shows your BS though as not a single MCU film is below a 4 at worst, 2's or 1's mean nearly nothing to nothing at all worked, not the story, not the music, not the acting, not the lighting or effects, a 1/10 is literally the most amateurish bullshit production with untalented performers with inane bullshit for a story, even crappy horror films tend to be 2-3/10's and their made on shoe strings with talentless performers or writers, no one with any credibility can say the MCU films are that bad because they have quality production and performers, the story or style quality may vary depending on individual taste but the rest don't, so you show your trollishness in your idiocy my friend.
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Post by sostie on Nov 20, 2017 10:16:22 GMT
No, like I said, I give each movie a fair chance by watching it without any preconceived notions. Then why did you lie about seeing Spider-Man:Homecoming but still commented, criticised and rated it?
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 20, 2017 12:36:49 GMT
No, like I said, I give each movie a fair chance by watching it without any preconceived notions. Then why did you lie about seeing Spider-Man:Homecoming but still commented, criticised and rated it? He's a liar and a thief, natch.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 21, 2017 3:52:05 GMT
You have admitted in another thread that you don't though go in without preconceived notions, you hated X-Men 3 because it diverged from the comics by not making Cyclops a main character, now I'm not defending X3 because imo it's fucking dogshit, but you didn't cite the stupid main story, waste of characters, meaningless side story that went no where, outright silliness of some of the characters & their tactics, you cited it's not like the comics, there by showing a bias going in and a preconceived notion of what the film should be. No, you don't seem to understand what a preconceived bias is. A preconceived bias would be if I formed an opinion of a movie (either positive or negative) based solely on which studio produced the movie and not based on how good or bad the movie was. I formed no such opinion of The Last Stand based on which studio produced the movie. I didn't like The Last Stand because it fucked up The Dark Phoenix Saga that the movie was trying to adapt. That's not a preconceived bias. For example, I haven't seen Murder on the Orient Express yet, but the movie is supposed to be an adaptation of the Agatha Christie novel of the same title. Since it's supposed to be an adaptation of that novel, then I would expect the movie to be faithful to the novel. That doesn't mean the movie has to be 100% like the novel, but the movie should be at least 90% faithful to the novel. So when I go to see Murder on the Orient Express, I don't want to see a movie where the train passengers are getting killed in alphabetical order of their last names (i.e. The ABC Murders) or where the train passengers are getting killed 1 at a time until there are none left (i.e. And Then There Were None). I want to see a movie that's at least 90% faithful to the novel of the same title. Same with The Last Stand. The Last Stand was supposed to adapt The Dark Phoenix Saga from the comics so it should've been at least 90% faithful to the comic story. Another example. When I went to see Wonder Woman, I wanted to see Wonder Woman use her bracelets to deflect bullets and use her magic lasso but I didn't want to see Wonder Woman fight bad guys using Batarangs or Bat-smoke grenades because that would've been a complete butchering of the character. Well, Patty Jenkins had Wonder Woman use her bracelets and her magic lasso in the movie and not use Batarangs or Bat-smoke grenades. Conversely, when I saw SMH, I didn't want to see Spider-Man turn into another War Machine, just using AI suits made by Tony Stark. It was supposed to be a Spider-Man movie, but instead MCU turned the movie into War Machine: Homecoming and completely butchered the Spider-Man character by turning him into an immature and shallow show-off whose only motivation for being a hero was to try to impress Tony Stark.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 21, 2017 4:07:28 GMT
You have admitted in another thread that you don't though go in without preconceived notions, you hated X-Men 3 because it diverged from the comics by not making Cyclops a main character, now I'm not defending X3 because imo it's fucking dogshit, but you didn't cite the stupid main story, waste of characters, meaningless side story that went no where, outright silliness of some of the characters & their tactics, you cited it's not like the comics, there by showing a bias going in and a preconceived notion of what the film should be. No, you don't seem to understand what a preconceived bias is It's what you have against anything produced by the MCU. Mainly because it keeps making people enjoy Marvel characters who've been around for decades but never gotten their dues. And because they're helping people realize that DC needs to step up its game. Right now all it has is Wonder Woman, and that movie is enjoyed for political reasons.
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Post by dazz on Nov 21, 2017 5:38:37 GMT
You have admitted in another thread that you don't though go in without preconceived notions, you hated X-Men 3 because it diverged from the comics by not making Cyclops a main character, now I'm not defending X3 because imo it's fucking dogshit, but you didn't cite the stupid main story, waste of characters, meaningless side story that went no where, outright silliness of some of the characters & their tactics, you cited it's not like the comics, there by showing a bias going in and a preconceived notion of what the film should be. No, you don't seem to understand what a preconceived bias is. A preconceived bias would be if I formed an opinion of a movie (either positive or negative) based solely on which studio produced the movie and not based on how good or bad the movie was. You don't seem to get that what you just said was a redundant term, all bias is preconceived, it's also not what I said, I said preconceived notions, which how much of said notions a film meets is where you are bias, you don't judge these films on their own merit but on whether they check off enough fanboy wank boxes for you which is shallow and superficial.
Thor Ragnarok wasn't the film I expected or wanted to see going in, but what I got was a fun but odd film I did enjoy, I don't knock it down for not being what I expected or wanted I judge it based on the actual quality of the film presented to me, such as why BVS is a bad film imo, it gave me a lot of moments I wanted to see for years, but it did so in a weak manner and had a lot of needless crap, it presented an impossible for me to buy into villain who is what pushes the whole plot of the film meaning I cant buy that either and no matter how many epic moments that as a fan of these characters I loved seeing, no matter how many of them they throw at me is going to change that.
But then I base my opinion on quality and you base yours on idiocy.
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