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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Nov 25, 2017 2:41:10 GMT
I need to see it again soon. I was partial to the 82 version because it was closer to the original story alien (see Barlow's Guide To Extraterrestrials for the painting of the frozen Thing--shows three eyes and a bit of husky dog in the body).
The last time I watched it, I was intrigued by the characters and need to re-evaluate.
A film writer who was a Hawks' Thing fan pointed out an interesting differences between Kenneth Tobey's hero and Kurt Russell's version.
He said Carpenter's idea of a working class hero came from daydreaming in California and no real world experiences. I think that DOES show in his depictions of the prisoner character in Assault on Precinct 13, Tom Atkins in the Fog, Russell in Escape and Big Trouble etc...
They are muted if not caricatures that would have been "alien" to Hawks and other directors of that generation.
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Post by gspdude on Nov 25, 2017 15:59:18 GMT
Great acting, dialogue, camera work, and directing.
One of my favorites.
"An intellectual carrot. The mind boggles."
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Post by fangirl1975 on Nov 25, 2017 16:43:00 GMT
I watch this on TCM every time they air it in prime time.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 27, 2017 23:52:46 GMT
A few years back I got the opportunity to do a radio interview with the actor who played ' Lieut. McPherson' who was appearing in a nearby regional theater stage production. I posed that very same question (I think he gets asked that a lot). He verified that it was almost all Hawks working with the performers, with Nyby handling technical stuff (Hawks wanting to give his favorite editor a directing screen credit). Other Hawks touches -- overlapping dialogue, isolated group, guys bounded by and respecting one another's professionalism, wise-cracking female who is 'one of the boys.' None of these appear in any of Nyby's other later work. Thanks, Matt. I too have long considered it a Hawks film for the reasons you mention and the general critical consensus, and it's nice to have it confirmed by someone who acted in it. With that said, we've got this barrage of different takes on it d'après Wikipedia: Kenneth Tobey and William Self also said that Hawks directed it, whereas George Fenneman, Hawks, and Nyby himself said that Nyby did it with Hawks advising. That's why I find it such an intriguing question all these years later...though I am similarly predisposed to think that Hawks did do it himself to give Nyby the credit. |
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Post by anthonyrocks on Nov 28, 2017 13:51:36 GMT
My Number 1 Favorite Character in the Movie was the Reporter.
LOL, He was Great!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 15:23:06 GMT
Terrific film with great shocks and suspense, and a memorable bunch of characters with strong rooting interest. It made me a fan of character actors Kenneth Tobey and Robert Cornthwaite.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Nov 29, 2017 13:27:53 GMT
Terrific film with great shocks and suspense, and a memorable bunch of characters with strong rooting interest. It made me a fan of character actors Kenneth Tobey and Robert Cornthwaite.
I love it, but I love the Carpenter version even more. What did you think of the 2011 Prequel to the John Carpenter Movie ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 15:36:26 GMT
Terrific film with great shocks and suspense, and a memorable bunch of characters with strong rooting interest. It made me a fan of character actors Kenneth Tobey and Robert Cornthwaite.
I love it, but I love the Carpenter version even more. What did you think of the 2011 Prequel to the John Carpenter Movie ?
It's nowhere in the same league as Carpenters' film, but it's decent enough. A shame that the hard work of the practical effects team was replaced with that CGI.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Nov 29, 2017 20:07:16 GMT
What did you think of the 2011 Prequel to the John Carpenter Movie ?
It's nowhere in the same league as Carpenters' film, but it's decent enough. A shame that the hard work of the practical effects team was replaced with that CGI.
Agreed and That Bad Decision was actually made by the Studio, Not anybody that actually worked on the Movie (Not even the Director). That being said, I absolutely loved the Performances of some of the Norwegian Actors like Jorgen Langhelle (Lars), Trond Espen Seim (Edvard), Stig Henrik Hoff (Peder), and Kristofer Hivju (Jonas) in the Movie. |
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Nov 30, 2017 16:56:00 GMT
It was one of the first 50s sci-fi movies I saw as a kid and I loved it. Re-watched it sometime last year and it's still a very good movie, and I love Carpenter's remake as well for different reasons. The less said about that piece of crap 2011 abomination, the better.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Dec 7, 2017 12:52:41 GMT
What does everybody else here think ?
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