harpospoke And it also doesn't mean they're only known by geeks either. Cyborg was one of the characters in a Teen Titans cartoon, he never had his own cartoon like Iron Man.
Oh of course you'll come up with some excuse. You'll need one for the video games too. That means everyone knew who Cyborg was according to your claim.
I know all that. The only reason an Iron Man movie got made is because Marvel did it. It obviously wasn't going to happen otherwise as proven by reality. No one thought it had the potential to gross over 200m or they would have made the movie and/or kept the rights. Just the fact that Marvel got the rights back proves the point.
The problem is you need to explain how Marvel got the rights back if any other studio thought it was a viable property. That's the fact that kills your claim dead. Fox won't even give up FF and yet Marvel got Iron Man back.
Oh by the way....Marvel also got Punisher, Daredevil, and Ghost Rider back too. ...But studios actually thought they had
MORE potential than Iron Man because they at least tried to make movies with those characters. Iron Man wasn't even important enough to try one movie before being kicked back to Marvel. That's the best illustration of how minor a character Iron Man was...and Marvel had to start with that.
Plenty of space? You must be joking. Where do you propose they fit the Blade character in this Infinity War storyline?
The problem here is you are still pretending there is something "brave" about making an R rated movie. That's not remotely true.
I love how Netflix is a "cop out" (because you don't want to count that, do you?) but you are very eager to claim some home video DC release as some kind of proof of "bravery". You can't possibly think that sounds valid.
Where is DC's R rated movie if you think that's so important? (excuse time!)
It's all part of the conversation. Marvel has been taking risks since day one...by necessity. That's how they rose to being the dominant CBM studio.
Good...then we can dispense with the odd notion that there is any need for an R rated movie. It doesn't matter in story telling obviously.
No need obviously. (it couldn't actually be more obvious than it is) It's not an achievement. When they feel the need to do it, they'll do it just like everyone else does it. They'll lower the budget so the risk is the same.
100% horse crap. Fake complaints built on fanboy bitterness. All part of the talking points dredged up in desperate search for a reason to claim Marvel is not doing ...what they are doing. Which is dominating the CBM market and changing the way CBMs are made.
If a person actually heard all these fake complaints and didn't know what is actually happening, they might think Marvel is a dismal failure instead of the leader of the genre.
As always, there is nothing brave about making an R rated movie. You just lower the budget and the risk is the same. That's the
REASON they lower the budget. This is self evident.
And since we have established there is nothing superior about R rated movies then your entire complaint falls apart. Notice that DC is copying what Marvel is doing instead of making R rated movies? Yeah...because the whole idea is ridiculous.
Common sense also tells us they knew what tracking was and how well the Deadpool marketing was going before they made Logan.
But mostly we know for a fact that Fox had zero interest in R rated movies for 17 years until Ryan Reynolds talked them into it. They then lowered the budget to 59 million so there was almost no risk to them and let RR do what he wanted. That includes two Wolverine movies so obviously they didn't think it was important for him either.
Fox obviously didn't have any big change of heart prior to Deadpool. It took RR
10 frigging years to get them to do it. Interesting how easy it is for a studio not named Marvel to impress you.
Well now you don't know anything about movies if you think Taika Waititi and James Gunn make the same kind of movies.
But of course now you have to think up a new excuse for why Marvel was "playing it safe" with Gunn and GotG. (an obscure comic property) This is just spinning out of control for you.
Change is not safe. It's a risk. They could have just lowered the budget for Thor 3 and stayed with what was working. $644,571,402 is a pretty big return on a 170m budget. Heck...no real need to lower the budget really.
But instead, Marvel increased the budget to 180m and brought in an indie director and let him do the movie his way. That's the epitome of risk. And it paid off like their other risks. $798,398,766 and counting.
Hilarious! I knew you would have a double standard on that one. Gotta love it. Fanboy logic always fails.
The problem is...they didn't kill Superman. They couldn't even get past the credits of the movie without letting us know Supes was coming back. At least Marvel let Coulson stay dead until the TV show. (See how easy it is to find these fake accomplishments?)
Here some other ones. Marvel killed the Red Skull...one of their biggest villains. Why hasn't DC been brave enough to kill the Joker or Luthor? Cowards!
Marvel killed off Odin....one of the main characters in the Thor franchise. Why won't DC kill off one of their main characters?
We need character deaths because...reasons.
So silly....only Marvel is expected to kill characters. (I say they kill too many....keep the villains around like DC does)
I see you realized halfway through this nonsense that Peggy Carter defeated your argument. Naturally Rachael counts and Peggy doesn't. What a shocker.
So now "fake deaths" are ok! lol.... Any loophole to make the DC "deaths" approved, eh?
Oh really? So everyone releases R rated home video versions as a matter of routine now? Because "they already exist"?
Is there some reason why they didn't name it "The Enchantress"?
Oh that's right...because the movie isn't based on her. So...where is DC's movie about a magic welding hero? (This is what
you do....keep narrowing the definition until it only fits DC movies)
No...DC has announced a ridiculous number of movies that they are never going to make. Let's not hold our breath for this alleged movie about Cyborg.
It's exactly that kind of lame logic. Glad you picked up on my mocking this whole thing.
Oh now Deadshot is
THE main character of the movie, eh? You couldn't resist demoting Harley and Joker to supporting roles, could you?
Too bad the trailer spoils that fantasy:
It just happens to be dominated by Harley....who was more popular than Wonder Woman at that time.
And casting one of the most popular actors of the past 20 years isn't actually being risky. Can you guess how many people knew the name of Will Smith's character in Men in Black before that movie was released?
Yeah...not important if you cast Will Smith. If you wanna impress me, cast someone like RDJ to play an unknown character like Marvel did.
Oh so now getting to star in a 90 million dollar production isn't a big deal? You're actually trying to claim Will Smith isn't a star? Wow!
Thank you. Marvel has more characters to fit in and still have 6 more years to get to this fake "accomplishment" that you are demanding for no logical reason.
Great question. All you have to do is answer it so we can figure out why you think it's so important.
Good...then we can drop the whole silly idea. "R rated movies". Fake complaint.