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Post by SciFive on Nov 28, 2017 14:10:35 GMT
What do you think of 'Mindhunter' on Netflix?
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Post by SciFive on Nov 28, 2017 14:12:51 GMT
Some days ago, I watched 'Mindhunter' on Netflix. It's about the Behavioral Science group in the FBI that the author of "Silence of the Lambs" based his novels on about serial killers.
I think it's pretty good and I gave it a 9/10.
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Post by SciFive on Nov 28, 2017 14:13:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 14:31:23 GMT
What do you think, @mickeeteeze ? I liked it, really enjoyed it. The actor who portrayed Kemper was fantastic. My favorite scene was when the older agent and his wife have that painful realization about the agents job, son, effects on others, etc. Very powerful. The thing I 'docked it' two stars for? The younger agents girlfriend subplot. Just too predictable for me. "Idealistic young agent spends too much time in the 'dark side', realizes he too, has a dark side, spoiling relationship with 'hip young woman'". I dunno. Almost a cliche in these things. Maybe the lead actor just couldn't pull it off? Overall, enjoyed it. I'm signed up for season 2!! |
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Post by SciFive on Nov 28, 2017 14:38:35 GMT
What do you think, @mickeeteeze ? I liked it, really enjoyed it. The actor who portrayed Kemper was fantastic. My favorite scene was when the older agent and his wife have that painful realization about the agents job, son, effects on others, etc. Very powerful. The thing I 'docked it' two stars for? The younger agents girlfriend subplot. Just too predictable for me. "Idealistic young agent spends too much time in the 'dark side', realizes he too, has a dark side, spoiling relationship with 'hip young woman'". I dunno. Almost a cliche in these things. Maybe the lead actor just couldn't pull it off? Overall, enjoyed it. I'm signed up for season 2!! Agree with you on all counts!! If not for the younger agent's girlfriend subplot, I would have given the series a 10/10! If you've seen photos of the real Ed Kemper as he looked when the real FBI guys were interviewing him in prison, the actor is almost hauntingly similar to him. I didn't know that Kemper was a real person until I had a hunch and searched for him on Google. I don't remember ever hearing about him in the past. I had seen the words at the beginning that the series was "inspired" by a real book, but it hadn't hit me that these cases and serial killers on the show were all quite real. So guess what I did? I bought the book (Kindle eBook version) and read it. I'm signed up for Season 2, as well!! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 14:51:04 GMT
I liked it, really enjoyed it. The actor who portrayed Kemper was fantastic. My favorite scene was when the older agent and his wife have that painful realization about the agents job, son, effects on others, etc. Very powerful. The thing I 'docked it' two stars for? The younger agents girlfriend subplot. Just too predictable for me. "Idealistic young agent spends too much time in the 'dark side', realizes he too, has a dark side, spoiling relationship with 'hip young woman'". I dunno. Almost a cliche in these things. Maybe the lead actor just couldn't pull it off? Overall, enjoyed it. I'm signed up for season 2!! Agree with you on all counts!! If not for the younger agent's girlfriend subplot, I would have given the series a 10/10! If you've seen photos of the real Ed Kemper as he looked when the real FBI guys were interviewing him in prison, the actor is almost hauntingly similar to him. I didn't know that Kemper was a real person until I had a hunch and searched for him on Google. I don't remember ever hearing about him in the past. I had seen the words at the beginning that the series was "inspired" by a real book, but it hadn't hit me that these cases and serial killers on the show were all quite real. So guess what I did? I bought the book (Kindle eBook version) and read it. I'm signed up for Season 2, as well!! Haha. Another one of my weird fascinations is 'true crime', though not so much anymore. IOW, I'm familiar with Kemper. I don't know how much the book goes into it, but? Before Edward Kemper got caught, he used to spend a lot of time 'shooting the shit' with police, and was well known by the local cops as a 'nice guy', LOL. Well, not so funny when you consider his victims. The "Mindhunter" story is fascinating. Up until now, it's been mostly handled in police 'procedurals', with the pop culture break out being 'Silence Of The Lambs'. But the story of the bureaucracy behind it is worth telling,even if some substantial poetic license is taken. The three principals driving around the country interviewing violent criminal sadists is pretty accurate. Didn't Douglas interview Bundy extensively in the 1980's? |
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Post by SciFive on Nov 28, 2017 15:47:20 GMT
Agree with you on all counts!! If not for the younger agent's girlfriend subplot, I would have given the series a 10/10! If you've seen photos of the real Ed Kemper as he looked when the real FBI guys were interviewing him in prison, the actor is almost hauntingly similar to him. I didn't know that Kemper was a real person until I had a hunch and searched for him on Google. I don't remember ever hearing about him in the past. I had seen the words at the beginning that the series was "inspired" by a real book, but it hadn't hit me that these cases and serial killers on the show were all quite real. So guess what I did? I bought the book (Kindle eBook version) and read it. I'm signed up for Season 2, as well!! Haha. Another one of my weird fascinations is 'true crime', though not so much anymore. IOW, I'm familiar with Kemper. I don't know how much the book goes into it, but? Before Edward Kemper got caught, he used to spend a lot of time 'shooting the shit' with police, and was well known by the local cops as a 'nice guy', LOL. Well, not so funny when you consider his victims. The "Mindhunter" story is fascinating. Up until now, it's been mostly handled in police 'procedurals', with the pop culture break out being 'Silence Of The Lambs'. But the story of the bureaucracy behind it is worth telling,even if some substantial poetic license is taken. The three principals driving around the country interviewing violent criminal sadists is pretty accurate. Didn't Douglas interview Bundy extensively in the 1980's? Yeah, I look at 'true crime' now and then, too. I think the 'Manhunter' and 'Silence of the Lambs' movies got me somewhat interested in the people who do the behavioral analyses. Douglas mentions Bundy in the book, but I don't recall anything about interviewing him. I think the collection of police departments where Bundy did his murders in the west (spread out over 4 or 5 states, I think) had their detectives going after him when they could. Bundy didn't admit to his murders until he was nearing execution and hoped he could get a different deal in exchange for helping to close a lot of other cases. Florida couldn't make the exchange, though, because it would encourage other serial killers to commit even more murders than they may have planned so that they could use these as bargaining chips in case they were caught. Bundy admitted to a bunch of new ones anyway, and then he was executed. ------ About the younger agent's girlfriend subplot - there is something to this in real life, even when it comes to police department homicide detectives. I think they have a high divorce rate. I had a friend whose older sister was married to an actual NYPD Homicide detective. The older sister was sweet and somewhat naive, which made everyone in the family see the two as a good match. He saw horror during the day and came home to a sweet wife and their children on Long Island (so he appreciated the family with all his heart and soul). His work did wear on the family after awhile, though. He had a moody side sometimes that he couldn't shake after everything he saw. His wife lasted a little over 20 years and then got a divorce. I think this is a risk that a lot of these guys take when they get into this kind of field. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 17:17:33 GMT
Haha. Another one of my weird fascinations is 'true crime', though not so much anymore. IOW, I'm familiar with Kemper. I don't know how much the book goes into it, but? Before Edward Kemper got caught, he used to spend a lot of time 'shooting the shit' with police, and was well known by the local cops as a 'nice guy', LOL. Well, not so funny when you consider his victims. The "Mindhunter" story is fascinating. Up until now, it's been mostly handled in police 'procedurals', with the pop culture break out being 'Silence Of The Lambs'. But the story of the bureaucracy behind it is worth telling,even if some substantial poetic license is taken. The three principals driving around the country interviewing violent criminal sadists is pretty accurate. Didn't Douglas interview Bundy extensively in the 1980's? Yeah, I look at 'true crime' now and then, too. I think the 'Manhunter' and 'Silence of the Lambs' movies got me somewhat interested in the people who do the behavioral analyses. Douglas mentions Bundy in the book, but I don't recall anything about interviewing him. I think the collection of police departments where Bundy did his murders in the west (spread out over 4 or 5 states, I think) had their detectives going after him when they could. Bundy didn't admit to his murders until he was nearing execution and hoped he could get a different deal in exchange for helping to close a lot of other cases. Florida couldn't make the exchange, though, because it would encourage other serial killers to commit even more murders than they may have planned so that they could use these as bargaining chips in case they were caught. Bundy admitted to a bunch of new ones anyway, and then he was executed. ------ About the younger agent's girlfriend subplot - there is something to this in real life, even when it comes to police department homicide detectives. I think they have a high divorce rate. I had a friend whose older sister was married to an actual NYPD Homicide detective. The older sister was sweet and somewhat naive, which made everyone in the family see the two as a good match. He saw horror during the day and came home to a sweet wife and their children on Long Island (so he appreciated the family with all his heart and soul). His work did wear on the family after awhile, though. He had a moody side sometimes that he couldn't shake after everything he saw. His wife lasted a little over 20 years and then got a divorce. I think this is a risk that a lot of these guys take when they get into this kind of field. Oh, my Dad was a NYC cop. A good one. He was also a lousy husband, and a 'law and order' Father, if you get my drift. The job ate him up. |
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Post by SciFive on Nov 28, 2017 17:41:48 GMT
Yeah, I look at 'true crime' now and then, too. I think the 'Manhunter' and 'Silence of the Lambs' movies got me somewhat interested in the people who do the behavioral analyses. Douglas mentions Bundy in the book, but I don't recall anything about interviewing him. I think the collection of police departments where Bundy did his murders in the west (spread out over 4 or 5 states, I think) had their detectives going after him when they could. Bundy didn't admit to his murders until he was nearing execution and hoped he could get a different deal in exchange for helping to close a lot of other cases. Florida couldn't make the exchange, though, because it would encourage other serial killers to commit even more murders than they may have planned so that they could use these as bargaining chips in case they were caught. Bundy admitted to a bunch of new ones anyway, and then he was executed. ------ About the younger agent's girlfriend subplot - there is something to this in real life, even when it comes to police department homicide detectives. I think they have a high divorce rate. I had a friend whose older sister was married to an actual NYPD Homicide detective. The older sister was sweet and somewhat naive, which made everyone in the family see the two as a good match. He saw horror during the day and came home to a sweet wife and their children on Long Island (so he appreciated the family with all his heart and soul). His work did wear on the family after awhile, though. He had a moody side sometimes that he couldn't shake after everything he saw. His wife lasted a little over 20 years and then got a divorce. I think this is a risk that a lot of these guys take when they get into this kind of field. Oh, my Dad was a NYC cop. A good one. He was also a lousy husband, and a 'law and order' Father, if you get my drift. The job ate him up. It's an occupational hazard, which is kind of sad for a lot of families.  |
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Post by SciFive on Nov 28, 2017 17:47:47 GMT
@mickeeteeze What did you think of the season finale? I thought I was gonna die when Ed Kemper put his feet on the floor with a thunderous pounding in the hospital room. When he hugged the young agent, I think HE thought HE was gonna die. OMG. Looking forward to the next season! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 18:10:44 GMT
@mickeeteeze What did you think of the season finale? I thought I was gonna die when Ed Kemper put his feet on the floor with a thunderous pounding in the hospital room. When he hugged the young agent, I think HE thought HE was gonna die. OMG. Looking forward to the next season! Yess!!! Kemper recognized they were kindred spirits!! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 19:11:31 GMT
9/10. I absolutely loved it.
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Post by SciFive on Nov 28, 2017 19:49:29 GMT
9/10. I absolutely loved it. Me, too! I found it by accident while browsing around Netflix one evening. As soon as I saw it, I knew I needed to check it out. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 19:56:01 GMT
9/10. I absolutely loved it. Me, too! I found it by accident while browsing around Netflix one evening. As soon as I saw it, I knew I needed to check it out. Nice! It's always so much fun to stumble across a gem. David Fincher is one of my favorite directors (I believe he directed the first two and last two episodes) so I was anticipated 'Mindhunter' all year. I'm glad it lived up to my expectations. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 18, 2023 20:21:03 GMT
The first season is a 10. Second season brings it down to an 8 overall - wasn't terrible, just spinning its wheels a bit, and none of the killers they brought in were nearly as captivating as the guy who played Kemper.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 14, 2024 17:26:03 GMT
8/10
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 14, 2024 17:26:58 GMT
The first season is a 10. Second season brings it down to an 8 overall - wasn't terrible, just spinning its wheels a bit, and none of the killers they brought in were nearly as captivating as the guy who played Kemper. For me the first season was close to 9/10. Second season was closer to 7/10. |
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