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Post by blockbusted on Dec 5, 2017 21:55:24 GMT
...even if the purchase happens?
I mean, it seems that people are panicking at the idea of Disney never allowing an R-rated films to be made...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 22:40:30 GMT
If it really calls for an R-rated then of course they will, you are all worrying way to much over this!
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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 5, 2017 22:42:18 GMT
Deadpool: yes
Everything else: no
I think they'll do everything in their power to keep it all PG-13 other than Deadpool.
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 5, 2017 22:46:07 GMT
Deadpool: yes Everything else: no I think they'll do everything in their power to keep it all PG-13 other than Deadpool. You do know that Fox has the "X-men" movies staying at PG-13 also, right? Logan really isn't an X-men movie even if it has characters from it. Same with Deadpool. They never would have made an R-rated "X-men" movie. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 5, 2017 22:53:26 GMT
Deadpool: yes Everything else: no I think they'll do everything in their power to keep it all PG-13 other than Deadpool. You do know that Fox has the "X-men" movies staying at PG-13 also, right? Logan really isn't an X-men movie even if it has characters from it. Same with Deadpool. They never would have made an R-rated "X-men" movie. Except they are in the same universe. If Thor 4 is rated R then it's still an R-rated MCU movie. Just because it's not a team-up movie that doesn't make it invalid. I never said it was a bad thing. The vast majority of X-Men movies should be PG-13. Just like every Deadpool standalone movie should be rated R. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 5, 2017 23:29:24 GMT
...even if the purchase happens? I mean, it seems that people are panicking at the idea of Disney never allowing an R-rated films to be made... Sure they might. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 5, 2017 23:30:52 GMT
You do know that Fox has the "X-men" movies staying at PG-13 also, right? Logan really isn't an X-men movie even if it has characters from it. Same with Deadpool. They never would have made an R-rated "X-men" movie. Except they are in the same universe. If Thor 4 is rated R then it's still an R-rated MCU movie. Just because it's not a team-up movie that doesn't make it invalid. I never said it was a bad thing. The vast majority of X-Men movies should be PG-13. Just like every Deadpool standalone movie should be rated R. I would just argue Logan wasn't any better or worse for being R rated. I don't even remember it that way. It would have had the exact same effect as a PG13 film. I mean really, did anything happen that just had to be R rated? |
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Post by politicidal on Dec 5, 2017 23:42:23 GMT
Under a different label for distribution like in the old days perhaps.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 5, 2017 23:45:31 GMT
I'm betting Disney goes triple X Sex-Men: The Dark Phallus. Hee hee hee...
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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 6, 2017 0:31:07 GMT
Except they are in the same universe. If Thor 4 is rated R then it's still an R-rated MCU movie. Just because it's not a team-up movie that doesn't make it invalid. I never said it was a bad thing. The vast majority of X-Men movies should be PG-13. Just like every Deadpool standalone movie should be rated R. I would just argue Logan was any better or worse for being R rated. I don't even remember it that way. It would have the exact same effect as a PG13 film. I mean really, did anything happen that just had to be R rated? Well the main theme of the movie is Logan finding redemption by helping a little girl find her way to safety in a dark and violent world. I think the R rating was justified and the movie would've lost something if it was PG-13. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 0:40:12 GMT
I would just argue Logan was any better or worse for being R rated. I don't even remember it that way. It would have the exact same effect as a PG13 film. I mean really, did anything happen that just had to be R rated? Well the main theme of the movie is Logan finding redemption by helping a little girl find her way to safety in a dark and violent world. I think the R rating was justified and the movie would've lost something if it was PG-13. It was definitely good as an R rated film, I'm not suggesting it lost anything for that.
But what would it have lost by being PG13. Can you think of any scenes that just had to be R rated or the scene wouldn't have worked?
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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 6, 2017 0:47:49 GMT
Well the main theme of the movie is Logan finding redemption by helping a little girl find her way to safety in a dark and violent world. I think the R rating was justified and the movie would've lost something if it was PG-13. It was definitely good as an R rated film, I'm not suggesting it lost anything for that.
But what would it have lost by being PG13. Can you think of any scenes that just had to be R rated or the scene wouldn't have worked?
I would say there were two definite scenes that were supposed to be graphic to get the right tone for the movie. The first one was the rural scene with the massacre of the farm family The second was the death of Logan, which showcased his redemption and sacrifice for his "daughter" I don't know if spoiler tags are necessary anymore, but whatever. There are also several other scenes that I could mention, but those are the two most prominent that lend the most to the central theme and elevate the movie. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 6, 2017 0:56:57 GMT
You do know that Fox has the "X-men" movies staying at PG-13 also, right? Logan really isn't an X-men movie even if it has characters from it. Same with Deadpool. They never would have made an R-rated "X-men" movie. Except they are in the same universe. If Thor 4 is rated R then it's still an R-rated MCU movie. Just because it's not a team-up movie that doesn't make it invalid. I never said it was a bad thing. The vast majority of X-Men movies should be PG-13. Just like every Deadpool standalone movie should be rated R. Why? Why should standalone Deadpool movies be rated R? |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 0:57:41 GMT
It was definitely good as an R rated film, I'm not suggesting it lost anything for that.
But what would it have lost by being PG13. Can you think of any scenes that just had to be R rated or the scene wouldn't have worked?
I would say there were two definite scenes that were supposed to be graphic to get the right tone for the movie. The first one was the rural scene with the massacre of the farm family The second was the death of Logan, which showcased his redemption and sacrifice for his "daughter" I don't know if spoiler tags are necessary anymore, but whatever. There are also several other scenes that I could mention, but those are the two most prominent that lend the most to the central theme and elevate the movie. I'll think about it. Might even watch it again with this in mind. I'm just not really convinced those had to be R rated to convey that point, but maybe.
I would say that Wolverines Origin is the type of a film that could use an R, for showing him ripped open, to convey that type of unimaginable pain, so I could see where you're going here. IDK. Punisher yes, needs to be R. Does something like Deadpool really have to be though? I know we had a lot of off color commentary and that's great, I love it, but does it have to be there to make a good Deadpool film? I don't really think so.
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 6, 2017 0:59:16 GMT
It was definitely good as an R rated film, I'm not suggesting it lost anything for that.
But what would it have lost by being PG13. Can you think of any scenes that just had to be R rated or the scene wouldn't have worked?
I would say there were two definite scenes that were supposed to be graphic to get the right tone for the movie. The first one was the rural scene with the massacre of the farm family The second was the death of Logan, which showcased his redemption and sacrifice for his "daughter" I don't know if spoiler tags are necessary anymore, but whatever. There are also several other scenes that I could mention, but those are the two most prominent that lend the most to the central theme and elevate the movie. Can't remember, but did they actually show them being killed? |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 1:27:12 GMT
I would say there were two definite scenes that were supposed to be graphic to get the right tone for the movie. The first one was the rural scene with the massacre of the farm family The second was the death of Logan, which showcased his redemption and sacrifice for his "daughter" I don't know if spoiler tags are necessary anymore, but whatever. There are also several other scenes that I could mention, but those are the two most prominent that lend the most to the central theme and elevate the movie. Can't remember, but did they actually show them being killed? My point exactly. Even if they did show it, it didn't stand out to you, or me, so the point would be that making that scene R rated, didn't make a difference. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 6, 2017 2:50:13 GMT
I would say there were two definite scenes that were supposed to be graphic to get the right tone for the movie. The first one was the rural scene with the massacre of the farm family The second was the death of Logan, which showcased his redemption and sacrifice for his "daughter" I don't know if spoiler tags are necessary anymore, but whatever. There are also several other scenes that I could mention, but those are the two most prominent that lend the most to the central theme and elevate the movie. Can't remember, but did they actually show them being killed? It shows the kid and the father's death, but not the mother, who was stabbed off-screen. It also shows Professor X's death on top of that. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 6, 2017 2:53:00 GMT
Except they are in the same universe. If Thor 4 is rated R then it's still an R-rated MCU movie. Just because it's not a team-up movie that doesn't make it invalid. I never said it was a bad thing. The vast majority of X-Men movies should be PG-13. Just like every Deadpool standalone movie should be rated R. Why? Why should standalone Deadpool movies be rated R? Because it's accurate to the source material and in line with the first movie. People would go mad if Deadpool 3 is PG-13. Now, if they rebooted it in a few years and decide to take a more family-friendly approach to the character, then PG-13 is perfectly fine. |
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Post by politicidal on Dec 6, 2017 3:05:25 GMT
Why? Why should standalone Deadpool movies be rated R? Because it's accurate to the source material and in line with the first movie. People would go mad if Deadpool 3 is PG-13. If people flipped their shit over Expendables 3 being PG13 instead of simply a bad movie, they'd riot over Deadpool 3. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 6, 2017 15:05:36 GMT
Why? Why should standalone Deadpool movies be rated R? Because it's accurate to the source material and in line with the first movie. People would go mad if Deadpool 3 is PG-13. Now, if they rebooted it in a few years and decide to take a more family-friendly approach to the character, then PG-13 is perfectly fine. The source material really is R-rated. If that were true, every comic ever made would be considered R-rated. Not really. If you took out a lot of the unneeded stuff in the 1st Deadpool that would have been PG13. It was just a bunch of gore, a pegging snippet and masturbating. You can cut some of the profanity and get a PG13. Heh, family friendly. |
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