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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 1:49:16 GMT
Just think about it for a second and read this through. Wanda gets a little nutso about something that happens to Vision or her children or the fact that she feels persecuted, and says something like "no more humans". Now this doesn't just kill everybody, but it does start leading to people developing mutant powers, and if that were the case, it builds a strong reason why humans would be afraid of it. Now I don't know how older mutants would factor in like Xavier, but maybe she does it in the past. IDK. But I thought it might be an interesting twist to alter reality, and perhaps they undo it to some degree, but mutants still exist. Thoughts?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 6, 2017 13:46:13 GMT
Friendly debate or vitriolic exchange? Let's see what the judges think. scabab justanaveragejoe. Hee hee hee... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 14:11:29 GMT
Doesn’t really work. The best bet it they are like everything- already existing but little known. SHEILD knows, and Fury knows, but they didn’t tell the Avengers because knowledge is on a need to know basis- it’s called compartmentalisation.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Dec 6, 2017 14:49:41 GMT
Friendly debate or vitriolic exchange? Let's see what the judges think. scabab justanaveragejoe . Hee hee hee... Definitely vitriolic exchange. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 16:52:32 GMT
Doesn’t really work. The best bet it they are like everything- already existing but little known. SHEILD knows, and Fury knows, but they didn’t tell the Avengers because knowledge is on a need to know basis- it’s called compartmentalisation. I almost get that, but to me that doesn't get there. They really did nothing noticeable this entire time? Even the evil mutants? nobody has misbehaved? None of the teenage mutants discovering their powers for the first time were caught using them, or freaked out themselves, and all of them immediately knew to hide it?
I'd honestly rather go with a time traveling Wanda starts mutantdom in the past sort of thing.
But truthfully, I don't think they'll put the X-Men in the MCU at all.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 6, 2017 19:36:48 GMT
Doesn’t really work. The best bet it they are like everything- already existing but little known. SHEILD knows, and Fury knows, but they didn’t tell the Avengers because knowledge is on a need to know basis- it’s called compartmentalisation. I almost get that, but to me that doesn't get there. They really did nothing noticeable this entire time? Even the evil mutants? nobody has misbehaved? None of the teenage mutants discovering their powers for the first time were caught using them, or freaked out themselves, and all of them immediately knew to hide it?
I'd honestly rather go with a time traveling Wanda starts mutantdom in the past sort of thing.
But truthfully, I don't think they'll put the X-Men in the MCU at all.
I already said in another thread how to do it. Another way is to do it like in the 60's but today. The Mutant boom only happened a few decades in the comics. Sure there were a scattered minority of mutants like Professor X, Wolverine etc, but hose can be in hiding or doing covert ops, whatever. The kids, I.E. the X-men just recently had they're mutation, and the mutant population is growing exponentially. They could do it like this: Professor X has been trying to get some mutants, because there are so few to make the team. There are only a few like magneto etc. A few years passs (since the incident) an exponentially number of teens, young adults start to have the mutations. BAM X-Men (that's how they did iyt in the comics so why wouldn't it work here?) The flaw in the thinking is that to have the X-men you need a bazillion mutants, you don't, actually it should start as a small group and become larger in each movie until it's a threat ETC. Just do the comics. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 6, 2017 20:01:23 GMT
Doesn’t really work. The best bet it they are like everything- already existing but little known. SHEILD knows, and Fury knows, but they didn’t tell the Avengers because knowledge is on a need to know basis- it’s called compartmentalisation. I almost get that, but to me that doesn't get there. They really did nothing noticeable this entire time? Even the evil mutants? nobody has misbehaved? None of the teenage mutants discovering their powers for the first time were caught using them, or freaked out themselves, and all of them immediately knew to hide it?
I'd honestly rather go with a time traveling Wanda starts mutantdom in the past sort of thing.
But truthfully, I don't think they'll put the X-Men in the MCU at all.
That's why we have Inhumans in Agents of SHIELD. Not all those powered people have to be Inhumans. That's why the fish oil pills was pretty smart. Now random people can have powers and nobody knows if that was that catalyst. Anybody can start up mutants by going back in time. A person born from a powered person and has powers themselves is a mutant. If Captain America (a mutate) has a kid and that kid has his powers, s/he's a mutant. I had an idea of doing a Fantastic Four movie before doing the X-men movie in which they have to battle Kang. They go way back in time and Kang creates an army of superhumans. They defeat Kang and his army. When they get back Mutants are a thing. Mutants would be the descendants of Kang's army. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 20:39:36 GMT
I almost get that, but to me that doesn't get there. They really did nothing noticeable this entire time? Even the evil mutants? nobody has misbehaved? None of the teenage mutants discovering their powers for the first time were caught using them, or freaked out themselves, and all of them immediately knew to hide it?
I'd honestly rather go with a time traveling Wanda starts mutantdom in the past sort of thing.
But truthfully, I don't think they'll put the X-Men in the MCU at all.
I already said in another thread how to do it. Another way is to do it like in the 60's but today. The Mutant boom only happened a few decades in the comics. Sure there were a scattered minority of mutants like Professor X, Wolverine etc, but hose can be in hiding or doing covert ops, whatever. The kids, I.E. the X-men just recently had they're mutation, and the mutant population is growing exponentially. They could do it like this: Professor X has been trying to get some mutants, because there are so few to make the team. There are only a few like magneto etc. A few years passs (since the incident) an exponentially number of teens, young adults start to have the mutations. BAM X-Men (that's how they did iyt in the comics so why wouldn't it work here?) The flaw in the thinking is that to have the X-men you need a bazillion mutants, you don't, actually it should start as a small group and become larger in each movie until it's a threat ETC. Just do the comics. Ok I'll buy that. Well said. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 6, 2017 20:58:58 GMT
Just think about it for a second and read this through. Wanda gets a little nutso about something that happens to Vision or her children or the fact that she feels persecuted, and says something like "no more humans". Now this doesn't just kill everybody, but it does start leading to people developing mutant powers, and if that were the case, it builds a strong reason why humans would be afraid of it. Now I don't know how older mutants would factor in like Xavier, but maybe she does it in the past. IDK. But I thought it might be an interesting twist to alter reality, and perhaps they undo it to some degree, but mutants still exist. Thoughts? Better idea for the X-Men in the MCU: They were always there.
Mutants were always there, just under wraps and on the down low, and the movie can start with some event that brings them to light to the world at large (a public conflict; Magnetos first attack[?]) and attracts the attention of the Avengers. Keep it simple. After all, Shield and the Inhumans were always there. Same thing.
And they can even finally add in that Scarlet With and Quicksilver are the mutants they always were (instead of that Inhumans retcon they tried to pull). |
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