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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 3:30:24 GMT
With the idea that Marvel might actually get the x-men, fantastic 4, doom, surfer, you know the drill, back and have a near perfectly complete roster,
What do you now think should and will happen the current group of characters?
- Will/Should Evan's cap die and pass the torch to Bucky/Falcon/Both? - Would you like RDJ stay on and just play an aging Tony, even if it's only part time for the rest of his career. There's no reason he can't. Imagine if he's still playing him in 20 years. No just think about it. Maybe he's given up Iron Man but he's the leader of Shield. You get to look back and see his age progression. DAMN. That would be fucking cool. Or can you actually recast him? Would you? - Can Thor be recast. It's not a character that can age like Steve or Tony. I love Hemsworth, and he can keep playing him, but if it comes to it, I'm ok with a recast here. I have no idea who, but it could be interesting. Or does his power simply get passed on if he dies, and new character is introduced instead of being a straight up recasting? - Most of the other big timers are brand new, but how about Widow and Hawkeye. Are they characters that die, do they just fade away, are they worth recasting? Can anything more be gleaned from their characters? - What if Tom Holland sticks around for 20 years as an older spiderman? Doctor Strange can work as an old man as long as Benedict wants to stick around. Chadwick can even pass the torch in 10 years to Shiri if need be.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 4:19:18 GMT
Recasting would kill the series for me. Just end their stories when necessary, and continue with the newer characters.
If they wanna reboot in ten years, whatever, but recasting now would be a slap in the face to the fans. If this thing has no conclusions then what is the point??
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 4:20:46 GMT
Recasting would kill the series for me. Just end their stories when necessary, and continue with the newer characters. If they wanna reboot in ten years, whatever, but recasting now would be a slap in the face to the fans. If this thing has no conclusions then what is the point?? Ok, fair enough. Would it work for any character at all?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 4:24:14 GMT
Recasting would kill the series for me. Just end their stories when necessary, and continue with the newer characters. If they wanna reboot in ten years, whatever, but recasting now would be a slap in the face to the fans. If this thing has no conclusions then what is the point?? Ok, fair enough. Would it work for any character at all? Not in my opinion. You can't build this huge shared universe then just discard an actor to take a character in a new direction. It undermines the whole purpose. Besides, if they really want to keep some the original cast they can just pay them to stay on. We all know Disney has the money!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 4:31:06 GMT
Ok, fair enough. Would it work for any character at all? Not in my opinion. You can't build this huge shared universe then just discard an actor to take a character in a new direction. It undermines the whole purpose. Besides, if they really want to keep some the original cast they can just pay them to stay on. We all know Disney has the money! Oh I wasn't suggesting not keeping them. Did you read? I actually said they should keep them as long as they want that character. It would be great to have an older Steve in 15 years, and older Tony, an older Peter, an older TaChalla.
I'm just asking if for some reason they couldn't keep them, or it just didn't work for a particular character, (like a supposedly near immortal thor for instance) would recasting would work for any character.
But your answer seems to be no, and honestly I probably agree with that at this point. 5 years ago, I would have said they could probably recast, and maybe they still could if the actor was gone for a long time and they choose not to kill the character off, but yeah for the most part I agree, it would take a very special circumstance for it to make any sense.
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Post by DSDSquared on Dec 6, 2017 12:59:36 GMT
I say no. I would love to see an older Tony running things behind the scenes. However, I really think that Cap and a few others will be killed off in Infinity Wars. Captain Marvel, Spiderman, Fantastic 4, etc. can be the future of these movies. That is how they move on. I am sure there will be a reboot one day, but hopefully not for like 20 years.
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Post by kuatorises on Dec 6, 2017 15:30:45 GMT
With the idea that Marvel might actually get the x-men, fantastic 4, doom, surfer, you know the drill, back and have a near perfectly complete roster,
What do you now think should and will happen the current group of characters?
- Will/Should Evan's cap die and pass the torch to Bucky/Falcon/Both? - Would you like RDJ stay on and just play an aging Tony, even if it's only part time for the rest of his career. There's no reason he can't. Imagine if he's still playing him in 20 years. No just think about it. Maybe he's given up Iron Man but he's the leader of Shield. You get to look back and see his age progression. DAMN. That would be fucking cool. Or can you actually recast him? Would you? - Can Thor be recast. It's not a character that can age like Steve or Tony. I love Hemsworth, and he can keep playing him, but if it comes to it, I'm ok with a recast here. I have no idea who, but it could be interesting. Or does his power simply get passed on if he dies, and new character is introduced instead of being a straight up recasting? - Most of the other big timers are brand new, but how about Widow and Hawkeye. Are they characters that die, do they just fade away, are they worth recasting? Can anything more be gleaned from their characters? - What if Tom Holland sticks around for 20 years as an older spiderman? Doctor Strange can work as an old man as long as Benedict wants to stick around. Chadwick can even pass the torch in 10 years to Shiri if need be.
What do you guys think? Right now, I think this question is actually more pressing for the X-Men characters. If they recast does that when they are starting over with MCU versions of the characters? Do they just bring in James McAvoy, Jennifer Lawrence, and company? Are people going to understand all this? I don't think they should recast any of the MCU characters. We identify with these particular actors as these characters at this point. I would either kill them off, phase them out, or move them into a part-time role. I'm not sure any of this is going to work anyway.The MCU was carefully constructed and if we just have these new characters dropped in, it will fly in the face of everything that made the MCU the product that it is.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 6, 2017 15:49:52 GMT
I say retire the characters. Maybe leave it open so they could return if need be.
If this deal goes through, than the MCU will have even more characters to carry it. Not to mention the cosmic side of marvel that James gunn will expand on.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 16:42:39 GMT
With the idea that Marvel might actually get the x-men, fantastic 4, doom, surfer, you know the drill, back and have a near perfectly complete roster,
What do you now think should and will happen the current group of characters?
- Will/Should Evan's cap die and pass the torch to Bucky/Falcon/Both? - Would you like RDJ stay on and just play an aging Tony, even if it's only part time for the rest of his career. There's no reason he can't. Imagine if he's still playing him in 20 years. No just think about it. Maybe he's given up Iron Man but he's the leader of Shield. You get to look back and see his age progression. DAMN. That would be fucking cool. Or can you actually recast him? Would you? - Can Thor be recast. It's not a character that can age like Steve or Tony. I love Hemsworth, and he can keep playing him, but if it comes to it, I'm ok with a recast here. I have no idea who, but it could be interesting. Or does his power simply get passed on if he dies, and new character is introduced instead of being a straight up recasting? - Most of the other big timers are brand new, but how about Widow and Hawkeye. Are they characters that die, do they just fade away, are they worth recasting? Can anything more be gleaned from their characters? - What if Tom Holland sticks around for 20 years as an older spiderman? Doctor Strange can work as an old man as long as Benedict wants to stick around. Chadwick can even pass the torch in 10 years to Shiri if need be.
What do you guys think? Right now, I think this question is actually more pressing for the X-Men characters. If they recast does that when they are starting over with MCU versions of the characters? Do they just bring in James McAvoy, Jennifer Lawrence, and company? Are people going to understand all this? I don't think they should recast any of the MCU characters. We identify with these particular actors as these characters at this point. I would either kill them off, phase them out, or move them into a part-time role. I'm not sure any of this is going to work anyway.The MCU was carefully constructed and if we just have these new characters dropped in, it will fly in the face of everything that made the MCU the product that it is. It's an interesting question. I don't think they'll bring the X-Men into the current MCU at all to be honest. I think they'll reboot that series so they can create their vision of it and leave it as a separate world. I know there is the potential to do some reality warp thing, but I really don't that happening. It's just too convoluted and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think they'll do that. But hell, if they go that route, I'm convinced they've got a plan that works.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 16:45:18 GMT
I say retire the characters. Maybe leave it open so they could return if need be. If this deal goes through, than the MCU will have even more characters to carry it. Not to mention the cosmic side of marvel that James gunn will expand on. Hell, the amount of characters they're getting will carry them for awhile. You're talking entire new series with multiple different franchises and several big time villains for even the current characters to play with. This alone would last them another decade, nevermind the 20 films they already had in the pipeline.
If Gunn was planning some sort of Annihilation event, he's about to be able to use anybody he wants.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 6, 2017 17:23:18 GMT
With the idea that Marvel might actually get the x-men, fantastic 4, doom, surfer, you know the drill, back and have a near perfectly complete roster,
What do you now think should and will happen the current group of characters?
- Will/Should Evan's cap die and pass the torch to Bucky/Falcon/Both? - Would you like RDJ stay on and just play an aging Tony, even if it's only part time for the rest of his career. There's no reason he can't. Imagine if he's still playing him in 20 years. No just think about it. Maybe he's given up Iron Man but he's the leader of Shield. You get to look back and see his age progression. DAMN. That would be fucking cool. Or can you actually recast him? Would you? - Can Thor be recast. It's not a character that can age like Steve or Tony. I love Hemsworth, and he can keep playing him, but if it comes to it, I'm ok with a recast here. I have no idea who, but it could be interesting. Or does his power simply get passed on if he dies, and new character is introduced instead of being a straight up recasting? - Most of the other big timers are brand new, but how about Widow and Hawkeye. Are they characters that die, do they just fade away, are they worth recasting? Can anything more be gleaned from their characters? - What if Tom Holland sticks around for 20 years as an older spiderman? Doctor Strange can work as an old man as long as Benedict wants to stick around. Chadwick can even pass the torch in 10 years to Shiri if need be.
What do you guys think? I Say recast, not that they shouldn't give the mantle to Falcon or Bucky, but we have still lots and lots of stories ti be told and I don't want Steve Rogers not to have expereienced these events. Someday the Heroes need the bagage. So Recast but keep the characters. Always. The timeline is already streatching like in the comics, The movies should be the same. Recast and let some other actor have a go at the character while letting the character retain the memories. Like the Hulk but in a larger scale and well made (not like psylocke and Ororo Bleargh)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 17:50:04 GMT
Not in my opinion. You can't build this huge shared universe then just discard an actor to take a character in a new direction. It undermines the whole purpose. Besides, if they really want to keep some the original cast they can just pay them to stay on. We all know Disney has the money! Oh I wasn't suggesting not keeping them. Did you read? I actually said they should keep them as long as they want that character. It would be great to have an older Steve in 15 years, and older Tony, an older Peter, an older TaChalla.
I'm just asking if for some reason they couldn't keep them, or it just didn't work for a particular character, (like a supposedly near immortal thor for instance) would recasting would work for any character.
But your answer seems to be no, and honestly I probably agree with that at this point. 5 years ago, I would have said they could probably recast, and maybe they still could if the actor was gone for a long time and they choose not to kill the character off, but yeah for the most part I agree, it would take a very special circumstance for it to make any sense.
I did read. And I was answering the part about recasting. As for the rest, I've always thought it'd be cool to keep a few of the originals around in cameos, such as Stark as the head of SHIELD. But they definately need to kill at least two main characters in the next few movies. I vote for Stark and Cap.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 6, 2017 17:58:20 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 6, 2017 17:58:43 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 6, 2017 17:59:02 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 6, 2017 17:59:18 GMT
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 18:01:12 GMT
Oh I wasn't suggesting not keeping them. Did you read? I actually said they should keep them as long as they want that character. It would be great to have an older Steve in 15 years, and older Tony, an older Peter, an older TaChalla.
I'm just asking if for some reason they couldn't keep them, or it just didn't work for a particular character, (like a supposedly near immortal thor for instance) would recasting would work for any character.
But your answer seems to be no, and honestly I probably agree with that at this point. 5 years ago, I would have said they could probably recast, and maybe they still could if the actor was gone for a long time and they choose not to kill the character off, but yeah for the most part I agree, it would take a very special circumstance for it to make any sense.
I did read. And I was answering the part about recasting. As for the rest, I've always thought it'd be cool to keep a few of the originals around in cameos, such as Stark as the head of SHIELD. But they definately need to kill at least two main characters in the next few movies. I vote for Stark and Cap. I kind of think they will kill somebody, but I think everybody needs to be realistic about. Let's so only Steve dies and the movies are fantastic. Or maybe Steve & Vision, but just very deaths and the movies are fantastic. I'm really not going to have any tolerance for the "they should have killed more" types of comments. If the films are great, I am really not worried about the death toll at all, and I don't think anybody else should either. The original Star Wars wouldn't have been better if Han or Luke or Chewy or Leia died. But I do think at least one will die. I'm just not going to set a standard that it needs to be any more.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 18:02:36 GMT
I'm pretty sure Buck is getting that mantle first, although I will say there is an equally good chance they share it together. I really don't see any way Falcon gets it first if Bucky is still alive. It's why Bucky has physically held the shield in all 3 cap films and Falcon hasn't.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 6, 2017 18:03:16 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 6, 2017 18:05:16 GMT
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