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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 11, 2017 22:05:44 GMT
There seems to be yet another roadblock apparently FOX does not have the rights. Will Marvel work something out to bring them hone? Will they end up like Hulk and appear in other films but no solo films? Will they fade away and be forgotten.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 11, 2017 22:12:36 GMT
SOMEBODY GIVE SOMEONE THE FF RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!1
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 11, 2017 22:15:30 GMT
Why can't they just buy Constantin Film?
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 11, 2017 22:21:44 GMT
They could send in some rebel spies to infiltrate CF and get the FF back. Or just Steve. He's snuck into and rescued captives from Hydra and the Raft now...
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 11, 2017 22:25:16 GMT
There seems to be yet another roadblock apparently FOX does not have the rights. Will Marvel work something out to bring them hone? Will they end up like Hulk and appear in other films but no solo films? Will they fade away and be forgotten. This situation is becoming a bit overblown. Fox is licensing the rights to produce Fantastic Four movies from a German financier. If Disney buys Fox, they inherit those licenses. Disney can still make Fantastic Four movies as long as they follow the same stipulations as Fox. It's admittedly a roundabout way to get movies based on your IP made but, it can be done. All this really means is that Disney is likely to start with FF movies as opposed to X-Men movies due to the alleged time stimulation in the Fox license. |
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Post by agentblue on Dec 11, 2017 23:31:44 GMT
There seems to be yet another roadblock apparently FOX does not have the rights. Will Marvel work something out to bring them hone? Will they end up like Hulk and appear in other films but no solo films? Will they fade away and be forgotten. This situation is becoming a bit overblown. Fox is licensing the rights to produce Fantastic Four movies from a German financier. If Disney buys Fox, they inherit those licenses. Disney can still make Fantastic Four movies as long as they follow the same stipulations as Fox. It's admittedly a roundabout way to get movies based on your IP made but, it can be done. All this really means is that Disney is likely to start with FF movies as opposed to X-Men movies due to the alleged time stimulation in the Fox license. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 11, 2017 23:55:24 GMT
This situation is becoming a bit overblown. Fox is licensing the rights to produce Fantastic Four movies from a German financier. If Disney buys Fox, they inherit those licenses. Disney can still make Fantastic Four movies as long as they follow the same stipulations as Fox. It's admittedly a roundabout way to get movies based on your IP made but, it can be done. All this really means is that Disney is likely to start with FF movies as opposed to X-Men movies due to the alleged time stimulation in the Fox license. Thanks for clearing that up. That is not accurate. Constantin is the one licensing the production rights. Fox only has the disrtibution rights. A similar scenario is preventing more Hulk films from being made. Meaning that the likeliest outcome is no FF movie at all. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 12, 2017 0:48:35 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up. That is not accurate. Constantin is the one licensing the production rights. Fox only has the disrtibution rights. A similar scenario is preventing more Hulk films from being made. Meaning that the likeliest outcome is no FF movie at all. Unless they make a deal with Constantin. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 12, 2017 0:51:54 GMT
That is not accurate. Constantin is the one licensing the production rights. Fox only has the disrtibution rights. A similar scenario is preventing more Hulk films from being made. Meaning that the likeliest outcome is no FF movie at all. Unless they make a deal with Constantin. Yes, of course, that is a possibility. But. deals like that are sometimes difficult. Remember that it took decades to work out the Hobbit deal. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 12, 2017 1:00:14 GMT
Unless they make a deal with Constantin. Yes, of course, that is a possibility. But. deals like that are sometimes difficult. Remember that it took decades to work out the Hobbit deal. I don't see how it's be hard in this case. I mean, it's not like Constantin cares much about the FF to begin with now that Fox is out of the way. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 1:00:43 GMT
Unless they make a deal with Constantin. Yes, of course, that is a possibility. But. deals like that are sometimes difficult. Remember that it took decades to work out the Hobbit deal. GIVE BILBO THE ARKENSTONE!!!!!!!!!!!!€ |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 12, 2017 1:03:07 GMT
Yes, of course, that is a possibility. But. deals like that are sometimes difficult. Remember that it took decades to work out the Hobbit deal. I don't see how it's be hard in this case. I mean, it's not like Constantin cares much about the FF to begin with now that Fox is out of the way. They've cared enough to hold on to the production rights since 1983! |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 12, 2017 1:10:06 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up. That is not accurate. Constantin is the one licensing the production rights. Fox only has the disrtibution rights.
A similar scenario is preventing more Hulk films from being made. Meaning that the likeliest outcome is no FF movie at all. Not true, Constantin and Fox supposedly share ownership of the license. They divided production and distribution rights along arbitrary lines. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 12, 2017 1:16:49 GMT
Not true, Constantin and Fox supposedly share ownership of the license. They divided production and distribution rights along arbitrary lines. Incorrect. How so? People are just theory crafting on this, Akbar. No one knows what the actual terms of the deal between Fox and Constantin is. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 12, 2017 1:32:05 GMT
How so? People are just theory crafting on this, Akbar. No one knows what the actual terms of the deal between Fox and Constantin is. Constantin has produced all four Fantastic Four films, while Fox has distributed all three that have had cinematic releases. Doesn't that tell you something? It tells CBR that “Constantin retains the production rights first sold to them in 1986, but that Fox has exclusive distribution rights as part of the 1999 deal with Marvel.” It does but, that still doesn't make for a show stopping obstacle. If Fox has exclusive distribution rights and Disney buys Fox, what materially changes? Do you think they'd really go shopping for another distributor? It's obvious that Constantin can't produce an FF film on their own. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 12, 2017 1:35:39 GMT
I don't see how it's be hard in this case. I mean, it's not like Constantin cares much about the FF to begin with now that Fox is out of the way. They've cared enough to hold on to the production rights since 1983! No one ever made a good enough deal to buy them back? After seeing Fox get absorbed and seeing the damage the last FF movie did, maybe Disney should just ask them for a price. |
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Post by kleinreturns on Dec 12, 2017 1:36:39 GMT
Interesting.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 12, 2017 1:44:26 GMT
They've cared enough to hold on to the production rights since 1983! No one ever made a good enough deal to buy them back? After seeing Fox get absorbed and seeing the damage the last FF movie did, maybe Disney should just ask them for a price. Why would Fox buy the rights from Constantin if they could make the films without owning them? I have a feeling they'll play ball with the new ownership. It will likely end up being more profitable for them. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 12, 2017 1:47:39 GMT
No one ever made a good enough deal to buy them back? After seeing Fox get absorbed and seeing the damage the last FF movie did, maybe Disney should just ask them for a price. Why would Fox buy the rights from Constantin if they could make the films without owning them? I have a feeling they'll play ball with the new ownership. It will likely end up being more profitable for them. You know what LDM? I actually agree with you, there is no reason Constantin wouldn't team up with Disney owned Fox, the same way they teamed up with Fox owned Fox. So, game on!  |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 12, 2017 1:48:23 GMT
No one ever made a good enough deal to buy them back? After seeing Fox get absorbed and seeing the damage the last FF movie did, maybe Disney should just ask them for a price. Why would Fox buy the rights from Constantin if they could make the films without owning them? I have a feeling they'll play ball with the new ownership. It will likely end up being more profitable for them. Constantin saw Marvel Studios turn D-Listers like the Guardians into a billion dollar money maker. If they call up and ask to make an FF movie they'll definitely want in. |
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