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Post by OrsonSwelles on Dec 15, 2017 19:00:27 GMT
We live in an R-rated world. Maybe people like seeing reality reflected in their art? No we do not. At least, not for the regular people. A regular person will not go through life seeing gory deaths or tortures. A regular person engages in sexual acts which only he/she does, they won't usually go and watch other people engaging in sexual acts live. Swear words though, I guess that can be argued. Depending on where you live, you may or may not get a whole load of swearing. Still, I don't think that's the norm. People look at traffic accidents when they go by, even slowing down to do it. News in other countries other than the US/Canada is more explicit. People don't watch sex acts live? I thought we were talking about movies onscreen. And since we are, I'm pretty sure a lot of people look at a lot of porn. As far as swearing goes, not including my own words, I don't go a day without hearing someone swear-- all professions, all ages, all nationalities and even in languages I don't know except for a couple swear words.
An R rating is defined by rules, those rules can change, and there can be flexibility in interpreting those rules. There's been nudity in less than R movies as well as swearing, and obviously there's lots of violence.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 15, 2017 20:02:31 GMT
No we do not. At least, not for the regular people. A regular person will not go through life seeing gory deaths or tortures. A regular person engages in sexual acts which only he/she does, they won't usually go and watch other people engaging in sexual acts live. Swear words though, I guess that can be argued. Depending on where you live, you may or may not get a whole load of swearing. Still, I don't think that's the norm. People look at traffic accidents when they go by, even slowing down to do it. News in other countries other than the US/Canada is more explicit. People don't watch sex acts live? I thought we were talking about movies onscreen. And since we are, I'm pretty sure a lot of people look at a lot of porn. As far as swearing goes, not including my own words, I don't go a day without hearing someone swear-- all professions, all ages, all nationalities and even in languages I don't know except for a couple swear words.
An R rating is defined by rules, those rules can change, and there can be flexibility in interpreting those rules. There's been nudity in less than R movies as well as swearing, and obviously there's lots of violence.
Your original claim was that movies are R-rated to reflect reality more. If your defense of sexual acts is that people in real life watch porn vids, that would be reflected in a movie as the movie character watching porn vids in the movie. However, if a movie shows nudity or sexual acts, that would be the equivalent of someone in real life being nude and performing sexual acts while visible by multiple people. Majority of people in real life perform sexual acts in the privacy of their own homes or in some place where they can't be seen by others. In the same way, majority of movies that are not R-rated do have sexual acts and nudity, they're just presented in a way where they're not shown to other people or the audience. You say people see car accidents all the time, well, you can have car accidents in a non R-rated film as well. See the aftermath of a car accident isn't the same as seeing their bodies being torn in half or getting their skulls crushed. Very very few people actually get to see stuff like that in real life. So again, that's reflected in the movies, as there are multiple movies that show accidents but not the gory details. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 22:51:55 GMT
Do you really think some tits, swearing and extra blood is all it takes to make a good movie? oh don't forget smoking too! Disney doesn't like that either  but seriously , R rated films allow the director(s) MUCH more creative freedom & leeway compared to safe PG 13 films. Obviously not EVERY film has to be R rated but come on, a little variety is a good thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 1:23:46 GMT
Do you really think some tits, swearing and extra blood is all it takes to make a good movie? oh don't forget smoking too! Disney doesn't like that either but seriously , R rated films allow the director(s) MUCH more creative freedom & leeway compared to safe PG 13 films. Obviously not EVERY film has to be R rated but come on, a little variety is a good thing. 99.99% of the superhero subgenre doesn't require an R rating. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 16, 2017 3:35:50 GMT
Do you really think some tits, swearing and extra blood is all it takes to make a good movie? I mean. Yes?  |
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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 16, 2017 7:00:17 GMT
On the subject of comic movies I want more serious movies and less humor. Think Winter Soldier,MOS and ASM
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Post by harpospoke on Dec 16, 2017 23:31:53 GMT
Screw R rated... I want X rated. I can't think of one CBM that would not be improved by a money shot. In fact it could be an additional moment of peril in Ant-Man. "HULK, SPLASH!" I like it. Totally makes sense too. If R rating makes a better CBM, then X rating would improve a CBM by leaps and bounds. But we really know what this is all about. It's a Marvel thing. Some are just desperate to find some "flaw" in what Marvel does even if they have to invent it. Since Marvel hasn't done an R rated movie yet, that was seized upon and exaggerated beyond belief as "important". Gotta have abundant curse words, blood and gore, and sex to make a good CMB now according to some people. Big ole fake complaint like the others. I recall seeing the South Park movie and thinking it was more funny when they had to bleep out the curse words on TV. That sounded more funny than actually hearing them curse. |
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Post by merh on Dec 17, 2017 6:18:12 GMT
Is there really anyone out there saying that a R rated Movie is good because of it's rating? My husband did. But he was in a motorcycle accident before I met him & had part of his brain cut out so he functioned on the mental level of a 16 yr old. And yeah, a lot of young people seem to believe R=adult & mature. I never look at the rating. If the movie looks good, I go. Last movie I saw was The Shape of Water which was excellent. I assume after seeing it that it was R because of the sex scenes, but that wasn't what made it good. |
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Post by merh on Dec 17, 2017 6:23:20 GMT
Hell no. That is not the best scene in that movie The scene where the killer is going up the stairs & gets hung up on a was of gum is funnier. The premise that teen boys cannot get out of a garbage bag & thus die is funny. And the phone call where the killer says he is talking thru a rubber chicken "click""Did you just hang up?""No. I just said click" is great. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 16:27:26 GMT
Hell no. That is not the best scene in that movie The scene where the killer is going up the stairs & gets hung up on a was of gum is funnier. The premise that teen boys cannot get out of a garbage bag & thus die is funny. And the phone call where the killer says he is talking thru a rubber chicken "click""Did you just hang up?""No. I just said click" is great. LOL, incredibly funny movie., and was better than any of those "Scary Movie" films that it predated by decades. Funny that this thread caused me to remember the "R rating" scene and I was trying to google up the scene, and couldn't find it because I couldn't think of a keyword and forgot the title. Then I remembered "Horse Head Bookends", lol, freakin' 36 years later and it was still recessed in the brain, then the title popped up and found the scene. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 7:25:53 GMT
I think it depends on what titles you are talking about and with the comic book genre there are a LOT of comic books that need to be ‘R’ rated to translate onto screen outside of the DC and Marvel bubble especially Horror superhero series such as the ‘Razor’ franchise and spinoff, ‘Strike’ which Rob Cohen said won’t be watered down and I am grateful for that ‘cause we saw what happens when they water down comic book movies and the movie adaption of ‘Faust: Love of the Damned’ was the perfect example of it and that is a movie that should have been the most controversial superhero film ever made. The ‘Faust’ comic books are one of the most disturbing and violently graphic comics I have ever read and I am still wondering what comic books the people who made the movie adaption were even reading. They did the same thing with ‘Spawn’ and a lot of ‘Spawn’ fans hated the movie in the 90s ‘cause they made it look like a 'Power Rangers' movie.
‘The Mask’ is another and while I like the Jim Carrey/Cameron Diaz movie ‘The Mask’ is Horror and it was originally meant to take a ‘A Nightmare On Elm Street’s’ spot as the next major Horror franchise under New Line Cinema but the heads and Chuck Russell thought the character was too sadistic and not likeable enough so they made it into a family friendly Action Comedy and it was nothing like the original comic books. Some comic book movies should be R rated and shouldn’t be watered down in to something that doesn’t even remotely resemble the source material and series like ‘Hack/Slash’, ‘Red Sonja’, ‘Vampirella’, ‘Painkiller Jane’, ‘Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose’, ‘Hellina’, ‘Pandora’, ‘The Ravening’, ‘Razor’, ‘Belladonna’, ‘Sunstone’, ‘Darkchylde’, ‘Lady Death’, ‘Bomb Queen’, ‘Nancy In Hell’, ‘Vampblade’, ‘Devi’, ‘Supergirl (Linda Danvers)’, ‘Fallen Angel’, ‘Avegeleyne’, ‘Monstress’, ‘Purgatori’, ‘Jennifer Blood’, ‘Wonderland (Zenescope) etc go a lot further with violence, blood, guts, nudity and sex than any movies I have ever seen on screen and wouldn’t work as PG rated movies.
No 'Hack/Slash' fan wants a PG Rated movie. We want blood and guts and Cassie Hack kicking ass with Vlad!! 
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Post by THawk on Dec 19, 2017 14:32:35 GMT
Do you really think some tits, swearing and extra blood is all it takes to make a good movie? Agreed. So many movies today cram all that in order to meet some kind of "edginess" quota. Much of the time it doesn't feel natural to the story, but forced. The difference is that especially in the last few years, many of these movies/shows have received insane amounts of critical and commercial success, which only increases the pressure on others to conform. Superficiality and shallowness is at an all time-high in society, that much is clear. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 20, 2017 23:58:28 GMT
Still don't get why it's so controversial to want a R rated MCU film.
It's not like it'll keep them from doing pg-13 films.
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Post by egon1982 on Mar 20, 2019 22:01:31 GMT
Do you really think some tits, swearing and extra blood is all it takes to make a good movie? Agreed. So many movies today cram all that in order to meet some kind of "edginess" quota. Much of the time it doesn't feel natural to the story, but forced. The difference is that especially in the last few years, many of these movies/shows have received insane amounts of critical and commercial success, which only increases the pressure on others to conform. Superficiality and shallowness is at an all time-high in society, that much is clear. What about Robocop? it was almost rated X
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Post by politicidal on Mar 20, 2019 22:55:57 GMT
How'd I miss this one. Anyway to answer the question, because at least we know they went all the way as far as content on a visceral level.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 21, 2019 1:38:34 GMT
How'd I miss this one. Anyway to answer the question, because at least we know they went all the way as far as content on a visceral level. Can't even remember what I made this thread in reference to. |
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Post by egon1982 on Mar 24, 2019 11:56:08 GMT
The Punisher and Blade were mature readers comics so it makes since they are TV-MA and R-rated properties
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