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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 22:39:47 GMT
I don't know if it's been pointed out yet because, let's be honest, there are so many things to loathe about this film, that you just can't cover them all, but in case it hasn't been discussed yet, I'd like to add weight to the argument that Luke's scene on Krait was not only a disservice to the character, but also an example of really bad writing.
Remember the premise for the idea of escape? "He got in here, so there must be a way out."
Yeah, except...he didn't "get in there."
But don't worry! There actually is a way out! What a lovely coincidence!
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Post by azzajones on Dec 17, 2017 22:48:31 GMT
I found it incredibly wise to build a base without a second entrance, or at least escape tunnels for when shit hits the fan.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 22:51:55 GMT
I found it incredibly wise to build a base without a second entrance, or at least escape tunnels for when shit hits the fan. Don't overthink it. These assholes don't know what they're doing. RJ wrote a (terrible) idea about one ship slowly chasing another ship at sublight and said, "damn, it has to end somewhere" and then shit out the idea of a death trap base. |
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 17, 2017 23:16:55 GMT
I don't know if it's been pointed out yet because, let's be honest, there are so many things to loathe about this film, that you just can't cover them all, but in case it hasn't been discussed yet, I'd like to add weight to the argument that Luke's scene on Krait was not only a disservice to the character, but also an example of really bad writing. Remember the premise for the idea of escape? "He got in here, so there must be a way out." Yeah, except...he didn't "get in there." But don't worry! There actually is a way out! What a lovely coincidence! Yep! I didn't catch that but you're exactly right! |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Dec 18, 2017 4:18:08 GMT
Actually, that's not really a plot hole. They didn't know Luke was just a Force Projection and really thought he got in somehow. So that inspired them to look for a way out when they originally thought it was just the front bunker
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 4:25:44 GMT
Actually, that's not really a plot hole. They didn't know Luke was just a Force Projection and really thought he got in somehow. So that inspired them to look for a way out when they originally thought it was just the front bunker Right, but per C3PO, schematics dictated there was no way out. And I get that they thought he was there and concede that it doesn't matter whether their inspiration was catalyzed by something false or true. But then they did look and, coincidentally, there was something there. It begs the question: in a life or death situation, why didn't they just look anyway? Why even need inspiration? The fact that it came as a false narrative makes me speculate that Rian Johnson just messed the writing up. |
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 18, 2017 6:25:28 GMT
Yeah. We can make excuses and reasons for why it worked all we want, at the end of the day it was still plain bad writing. Then again when you have scenes like Leia flying through space I guess things like these pale in comparison.
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Post by DSDSquared on Dec 18, 2017 13:49:29 GMT
I don't know if it's been pointed out yet because, let's be honest, there are so many things to loathe about this film, that you just can't cover them all, but in case it hasn't been discussed yet, I'd like to add weight to the argument that Luke's scene on Krait was not only a disservice to the character, but also an example of really bad writing. Remember the premise for the idea of escape? "He got in here, so there must be a way out." Yeah, except...he didn't "get in there." But don't worry! There actually is a way out! What a lovely coincidence! They were talking about the ice dogs too. They left through the back somewhere so the Rebels knew that there has to be a way out. People make issues out of nothing. This is not a plot hole. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 18, 2017 14:04:13 GMT
I don't know if it's been pointed out yet because, let's be honest, there are so many things to loathe about this film, that you just can't cover them all, but in case it hasn't been discussed yet, I'd like to add weight to the argument that Luke's scene on Krait was not only a disservice to the character, but also an example of really bad writing. Remember the premise for the idea of escape? "He got in here, so there must be a way out." Yeah, except...he didn't "get in there." But don't worry! There actually is a way out! What a lovely coincidence! They were talking about the ice dogs too. They left through the back somewhere so the Rebels knew that there has to be a way out. People make issues out of nothing. This is not a plot hole. There's a plot hole between your ears. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 15:26:40 GMT
I don't know if it's been pointed out yet because, let's be honest, there are so many things to loathe about this film, that you just can't cover them all, but in case it hasn't been discussed yet, I'd like to add weight to the argument that Luke's scene on Krait was not only a disservice to the character, but also an example of really bad writing. Remember the premise for the idea of escape? "He got in here, so there must be a way out." Yeah, except...he didn't "get in there." But don't worry! There actually is a way out! What a lovely coincidence! They were talking about the ice dogs too. They left through the back somewhere so the Rebels knew that there has to be a way out. People make issues out of nothing. This is not a plot hole. Maybe plot hole is not the right thing to say. It's purely bad writing, though. You should need no inspiration other than survival to see if there's a way out. The fact that the inspiration came as a false narrative is, to me, one more example of RJ's terrible writing. |
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