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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Dec 18, 2017 15:17:01 GMT
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Post by WarrenPeace on Dec 18, 2017 15:28:57 GMT
He was an asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 15:30:17 GMT
24? He looks 64 and graying in that pic....  |
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Dec 18, 2017 16:38:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 16:46:07 GMT
I find old school baseball fascinating.
Love the movie 'The Natural'.
I picture teams traveling in buses and the players are up until 4:00 in the morning playing poker, drinking liquor and smoking cigars and then being hung over after a few hours of sleep for the next day game - only to do it all over again the same day after a game.....
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 18, 2017 16:56:00 GMT
He's in my all time starting 9.
He's also in my top 5 MLB players.
1. Ruth
2. Cobb
3. W.Johnson
4. Mays
5. Williams
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Post by knowlto on Dec 18, 2017 16:56:01 GMT
Cool photo.
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Post by koskiewicz on Dec 18, 2017 17:58:20 GMT
...the movie "Cobb" starring Tommy Lee Jones as Cobb is a very disturbing look at a man who was widely despised even by his own teammates and family. His baseball records are truly amazing.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Dec 18, 2017 18:07:55 GMT
I find old school baseball fascinating. Love the movie 'The Natural'. I picture teams traveling in buses and the players are up until 4:00 in the morning playing poker, drinking liquor and smoking cigars and then being hung over after a few hours of sleep for the next day game - only to do it all over again the same day after a game..... So back then it was booze and smoking tobacco and now it's just chewing tobacco with PEDs added into the mix. When they made records, it was more real and genuine without any extra boost. And it really was the World Series since America was still the main country that played baseball. And The Natural. Great, great movie and glad I have a copy. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 18:27:35 GMT
I find old school baseball fascinating. Love the movie 'The Natural'. I picture teams traveling in buses and the players are up until 4:00 in the morning playing poker, drinking liquor and smoking cigars and then being hung over after a few hours of sleep for the next day game - only to do it all over again the same day after a game..... So back then it was booze and smoking tobacco and now it's just chewing tobacco with PEDs added into the mix. When they made records, it was more real and genuine without any extra boost. And it really was the World Series since America was still the main country that played baseball. And The Natural. Great, great movie and glad I have a copy. Own a copy myself. I give it a watch every night before Opening Night of the Phils  |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Dec 18, 2017 19:06:34 GMT
So back then it was booze and smoking tobacco and now it's just chewing tobacco with PEDs added into the mix. When they made records, it was more real and genuine without any extra boost. And it really was the World Series since America was still the main country that played baseball. And The Natural. Great, great movie and glad I have a copy. Own a copy myself. I give it a watch every night before Opening Night of the Phils That's cool. I almost feel like a re-watch myself even though I watched bits of it on cable recently. It is one of those movies that draws you in no matter what scene happens to come on. There is not a boring moment in it. Are you aware that it is based on a book and the book has a different ending? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 19:19:05 GMT
Own a copy myself. I give it a watch every night before Opening Night of the Phils That's cool. I almost feel like a re-watch myself even though I watched bits of it on cable recently. It is one of those movies that draws you in no matter what scene happens to come on. There is not a boring moment in it. Are you aware that it is based on a book and the book has a different ending? yep. have still yet to read it. it's a great movie. not just about baseball - but life in general - i.e. the choices/decisions/mistakes Hobbs made and his path to redemption fighting against the odds..... |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Dec 18, 2017 19:33:52 GMT
That's cool. I almost feel like a re-watch myself even though I watched bits of it on cable recently. It is one of those movies that draws you in no matter what scene happens to come on. There is not a boring moment in it. Are you aware that it is based on a book and the book has a different ending? yep. have still yet to read it. it's a great movie. not just about baseball - but life in general - i.e. the choices/decisions/mistakes Hobbs made and his path to redemption fighting against the odds..... Hmmm... That is one way of looking at it and I never thought of it. I just watch and enjoy it for how it is. So how do you see "The Judge" in terms of being part of your philosophy on the movie? This is a separate question but also relates to The Judge and Gus. Gus was a gambler and made money when Hobbs was in a slump since he bet against him. But why is he associated with The Judge? What does he have to gain in their relationship? And do you think Gus and Memo had sex? He is her Sugar Daddy. Is she just working for him to put the hot player in a slump or is there more to what she does for him? |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 18, 2017 19:55:07 GMT
...the movie "Cobb" starring Tommy Lee Jones as Cobb is a very disturbing look at a man who was widely despised even by his own teammates and family. His baseball records are truly amazing. "Cobb" was taken from Al Stump's book (Robert Wuhl in the film). Stump was a bigger asshole than Cobb. Exhibit #1, the death of Cobb's father. The autopsy reports clearly says he died from a pistol shot, not a shotgun. Not only did Stump spread that lie, he stole the shotgun from Cobb after his death (and a lot of other valuable memorabilia, which Stump profited from handsomely) www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-knife-in-ty-cobbs-back-65618032/Yes Cobb was a racist. A middle class white, born in rural Georgia 11 years after the end of the Civil War a racist, not out of the norm. He also funded hospitals in Georgia that treated blacks. You can't expect 21st Century thinking on a 19th Century person. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 20:06:37 GMT
yep. have still yet to read it. it's a great movie. not just about baseball - but life in general - i.e. the choices/decisions/mistakes Hobbs made and his path to redemption fighting against the odds..... Hmmm... That is one way of looking at it and I never thought of it. I just watch and enjoy it for how it is. So how do you see "The Judge" in terms of being part of your philosophy on the movie? This is a separate question but also relates to The Judge and Gus. Gus was a gambler and made money when Hobbs was in a slump since he bet against him. But why is he associated with The Judge? What does he have to gain in their relationship? And do you think Gus and Memo had sex? He is her Sugar Daddy. Is she just working for him to put the hot player in a slump or is there more to what she does for him? Yeah. The many questions you ask show it's way more than just about baseball (and the baseball aspects are tremendous) There's lust, greed, deceit, death, jealousy, redemption - with a love story intertwined as well. 'The Judge' - Greed, Envy, Deceit - wasn't he trying to take full ownership from Pop? Didn't care if he was putting out an abysmal product - offered Hobbs money to throw the series Gus - Typical Bookie. No concern for others other than his own wellbeing (would probably stab The Judge in the back if the money and circumstances were right) - Memo is playing him the whole time like she plays everybody - she's in it for the money and lifestyle - the two deserve each other - and yes - I'd think they slept together. Women like Memo use 'that' for manipulation purposes. She's the female version of Gus to an extent. She plays people for her own benefit. She's working for him in the sense - she'll be there until something better comes along. Master manipulator. Great movie. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 18, 2017 20:10:42 GMT
Hmmm... That is one way of looking at it and I never thought of it. I just watch and enjoy it for how it is. So how do you see "The Judge" in terms of being part of your philosophy on the movie? This is a separate question but also relates to The Judge and Gus. Gus was a gambler and made money when Hobbs was in a slump since he bet against him. But why is he associated with The Judge? What does he have to gain in their relationship? And do you think Gus and Memo had sex? He is her Sugar Daddy. Is she just working for him to put the hot player in a slump or is there more to what she does for him? Yeah. The many questions you ask show it's way more than just about baseball (and the baseball aspects are tremendous) There's lust, greed, deceit, death, jealousy, redemption - with a love story intertwined as well. 'The Judge' - Greed, Envy, Deceit - wasn't he trying to take full ownership from Pop? Didn't care if he was putting out an abysmal product - offered Hobbs money to throw the series Gus - Typical Bookie. No concern for others other than his own wellbeing (would probably stab The Judge in the back if the money and circumstances were right) - Memo is playing him the whole time like she plays everybody - she's in it for the money and lifestyle - the two deserve each other - and yes - I'd think they slept together. Women like Memo use 'that' for manipulation purposes. She's the female version of Gus to an extent. She plays people for her own benefit. She's working for him in the sense - she'll be there until something better comes along. Master manipulator. Great movie. Read the book sometime. Slightly different ending. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 20:15:24 GMT
doesn't he strike out? think i read some spoilers years ago. love books. will have to give it a read sometime |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Dec 18, 2017 20:27:41 GMT
Hmmm... That is one way of looking at it and I never thought of it. I just watch and enjoy it for how it is. So how do you see "The Judge" in terms of being part of your philosophy on the movie? This is a separate question but also relates to The Judge and Gus. Gus was a gambler and made money when Hobbs was in a slump since he bet against him. But why is he associated with The Judge? What does he have to gain in their relationship? And do you think Gus and Memo had sex? He is her Sugar Daddy. Is she just working for him to put the hot player in a slump or is there more to what she does for him? Yeah. The many questions you ask show it's way more than just about baseball (and the baseball aspects are tremendous) There's lust, greed, deceit, death, jealousy, redemption - with a love story intertwined as well. 'The Judge' - Greed, Envy, Deceit - wasn't he trying to take full ownership from Pop? Didn't care if he was putting out an abysmal product - offered Hobbs money to throw the series Gus - Typical Bookie. No concern for others other than his own wellbeing (would probably stab The Judge in the back if the money and circumstances were right) - Memo is playing him the whole time like she plays everybody - she's in it for the money and lifestyle - the two deserve each other - and yes - I'd think they slept together. Women like Memo use 'that' for manipulation purposes. She's the female version of Gus to an extent. She plays people for her own benefit. She's working for him in the sense - she'll be there until something better comes along. Master manipulator. Great movie. And great casting. Wilford Brimley plays the serious "takes no guff from anyone" manager perfectly. Before the old IMDb boards shut down, there was discussion if Memo influenced Roy's stomach attack when she fed him that thing at the party. I think it's coincidence. I was always under the impression that the slug somehow started to bother him at that same time. What do you think? Or did she poison him and then they happened to find the bullet slug? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 20:32:55 GMT
Yeah. The many questions you ask show it's way more than just about baseball (and the baseball aspects are tremendous) There's lust, greed, deceit, death, jealousy, redemption - with a love story intertwined as well. 'The Judge' - Greed, Envy, Deceit - wasn't he trying to take full ownership from Pop? Didn't care if he was putting out an abysmal product - offered Hobbs money to throw the series Gus - Typical Bookie. No concern for others other than his own wellbeing (would probably stab The Judge in the back if the money and circumstances were right) - Memo is playing him the whole time like she plays everybody - she's in it for the money and lifestyle - the two deserve each other - and yes - I'd think they slept together. Women like Memo use 'that' for manipulation purposes. She's the female version of Gus to an extent. She plays people for her own benefit. She's working for him in the sense - she'll be there until something better comes along. Master manipulator. Great movie. And great casting. Wilford Brimley plays the serious "takes no guff from anyone" manager perfectly. Before the old IMDb boards shut down, there was discussion if Memo influenced Roy's stomach attack when she fed him that thing at the party. I think it's coincidence. I was always under the impression that the slug somehow started to bother him at that same time. What do you think? Or did she poison him and then they happened to find the bullet slug? i'll have to give it a watch again this upcoming Spring before Phils opening night.... i was under the assumption it was obvious he was 'slipped' something.... maybe i'm wrong - will give it a watch in a few months..... it's really not so far off - pitchers and catchers report in february. always get exited for the start of baseball. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 18, 2017 20:55:26 GMT
doesn't he strike out? think i read some spoilers years ago. love books. will have to give it a read sometime That and more |
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