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Post by gomezaddams666 on Dec 19, 2017 2:38:42 GMT
Are ypu willing to say The Last Jedi is worse than The Phantom Menace? Definitely not--While I gave Phantom Menace a 1, I gave The Last Jedi a 4(mostly because of the great battle scenes)--and I would have given TLJ a 6 if they had cut from the movie almost every Finn/Rose scene Phantom Menace had Jar jar Bing fighting droids, how can anyone compare the level of shittiness in that movie?
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Post by audiosane on Dec 19, 2017 3:17:05 GMT
True. More than most people realize. I'm obviously not a fan of his Star Trek movies I was initially glad that his Trek Into Darkness writers Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof didn't come on board for TFA. Now, in hindsight, I would at least welcome lifesaving midi-chlorian blood as something new.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Dec 19, 2017 3:45:15 GMT
I'm obviously not a fan of his Star Trek movies I was initially glad that his Trek Into Darkness writers Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof didn't come on board for TFA. Now, in hindsight, I would at least welcome lifesaving midi-chlorian blood as something new. Orci/Kurtzman wrote The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Kurtzman drove the new "Dark Universe" into the ground with The Mummy
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Post by audiosane on Dec 19, 2017 3:53:31 GMT
I was initially glad that his Trek Into Darkness writers Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof didn't come on board for TFA. Now, in hindsight, I would at least welcome lifesaving midi-chlorian blood as something new. Orci/Kurtzman wrote The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Kurtzman drove the new "Dark Universe" into the ground with The Mummy Yeah.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 19, 2017 4:06:42 GMT
Definitely not--While I gave Phantom Menace a 1, I gave The Last Jedi a 4(mostly because of the great battle scenes)--and I would have given TLJ a 6 if they had cut from the movie almost every Finn/Rose scene Phantom Menace had Jar jar Bing fighting droids, how can anyone compare the level of shittiness in that movie? Still more believable than Leia flying in outer space. And at least TPM had Quigon, Obi Wan and Darth Maul who were all awesome characters that redeemed it. Plus as silly as the thought of being born of a midicholrian father, at least it made more sense than Rey being a nobody born of nobodies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 4:27:45 GMT
Are ypu willing to say The Last Jedi is worse than The Phantom Menace? Easily. Agreed. I hate to say it but I do think TPM is better. And I don't really even like TPM...
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Dec 19, 2017 4:32:08 GMT
Phantom Menace had Jar jar Bing fighting droids, how can anyone compare the level of shittiness in that movie? Still more believable than Leia flying in outer space. And at least TPM had Quigon, Obi Wan and Darth Maul who were all awesome characters that redeemed it. Plus as silly as the thought of being born of a midicholrian father, at least it made more sense than Rey being a nobody born of nobodies. You mean the ten minutes Darth Maul actually appeared in the movie, and the two hours of that fish thing?
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 19, 2017 5:47:52 GMT
I actually enjoy TLJ on some level, still better than the rehash awakens. But I would say TLJ is artistically worse than Phantom Menace at least on an originality and imagination level, just a few examples:
- TPM had Palpatine and Maul (and Qui Gon!) - TPM had excellent world building and art design - TPM had Palpatine's brilliant plot puzzle/scheme - TPM writing did not have blatant plot holes and plot redundancies (unless you are unable to get Palps plot) - TPM had one of the most iconic/lethal saber fight ever - TPM had iconic new Sci Fi ideas like the pod racer concepts or droid armies. - TPM had iconic music like Dual of the Fates and a few better tracks too - TPM spearheaded new innovative technology - TPM gave the saga a intellectual and conceptual backbone, and expanded the lore (Republic/Capital/Sith/Padawans etc)
Honorable mention: TPM had Darth Jar Jar the most anti-iconic character ever, still pissing off middle aged virgins to no end. Such a character cannot be totally bad.
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Post by reelreviews2 on Dec 19, 2017 6:31:49 GMT
Are ypu willing to say The Last Jedi is worse than The Phantom Menace? Easily. Annie!!! Weesa no longer the worsta Star Wars movie!!! YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by darkpast on Dec 19, 2017 6:41:28 GMT
its the first Star Wars film that did not have me wondering what's next
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 19, 2017 6:44:47 GMT
its the first Star Wars film that did not have me wondering what's next more dog shit
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Post by reelreviews2 on Dec 19, 2017 7:51:34 GMT
its the first Star Wars film that did not have me wondering what's next Meh, I'm two years AHEAD of you on that one. Me after seeing The Force Awakens on DVD 6 months after Star Wars fans claimed it was amazing and a return to the "true" Star Wars of their youth: "That's IT? The big Luke Skywalker reveal was.... a 20 second non-speaking cameo? Lame. And that's the BEST storyline you could come up with the status of the galaxy after they overthrew the Empire in Return of the Jedi? There's a new 'First Order' just like the evil empire they got rid of, a second rate Darth Vader wannabe, and you end the movie by blowing up a faux Death Star? Man, this franchise ain't even trying any more. Thanks for making the "happy" ending of Return of the Jedi pointless. Cool movie but complete waste of time. So there was really no reunion of the big three, and now there never will be since you killed off Han Solo. Come to think of it, pretty much every compelling character in this franchise is dead.... Emperor Sideous, Darth Vader... yeah... and the characters they introduced for this "new trilogy" are lame, really don't care what happens to them. In fact, the ONLY cool new character was that beach ball robot. Yea...... think I'll hold off seeing 'Episode VIII' when it comes out."And I have.
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 19, 2017 9:31:03 GMT
I put The Last Jedi above Phantom Menace and Clones but I have to see it again before deciding where it ranks in the saga.
There are plenty of good stuff in this film but on the other hand there is stuff that it's just wrong.
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Post by faustus5 on Dec 19, 2017 12:24:29 GMT
The idiots who say this is worse than Phantom Menace are an embarrassment. They represent the worst, most childish and juvenile element of the Star Wars fanbase, the sort of people who make me hesitate to identify as a Star Wars fan.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 19, 2017 12:38:34 GMT
The idiots who say this is worse than Phantom Menace are an embarrassment. They represent the worst, most childish and juvenile element of the Star Wars fanbase, the sort of people who make me hesitate to identify as a Star Wars fan. I mean... you could just ignore them? Anyhow to answer the question: No, The animated Clone Wars Movie is the worse Star Wars film. The Last Jedi may be the worse of the sequel trilogy, but we'll have to see how episode 9 ends up.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 19, 2017 12:44:06 GMT
The idiots who say this is worse than Phantom Menace are an embarrassment. They represent the worst, most childish and juvenile element of the Star Wars fanbase, the sort of people who make me hesitate to identify as a Star Wars fan. I mean... you could just ignore them? Anyhow to answer the question: No, The animated Clone Wars Movie is the worse Star Wars film. The Last Jedi may be the worse of the sequel trilogy, but we'll have to see how episode 9 ends up. Last Jedi is for me the third best in the saga behind ANH and empire.
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Post by DSDSquared on Dec 19, 2017 13:01:00 GMT
Anyone who says this is dumb. Period. The Last Jedi is WAY better than any movie in the prequel trilogy and better than Return of the Jedi or The Force Awakens. The only comparison is with A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back.
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Post by faustus5 on Dec 19, 2017 13:02:31 GMT
Last Jedi is for me the third best in the saga behind ANH and empire. That's where it ranks for me, even though the more I think about it the more flaws I see.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 19, 2017 13:05:34 GMT
Last Jedi is for me the third best in the saga behind ANH and empire. That's where it ranks for me, even though the more I think about it the more flaws I see. Oh yeah it has flaws. All of them has flaws. But Star Wars is more than the sum of the parts, at least for me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 15:00:06 GMT
That as a film I think TLJ is better than TFA, JJ Abrams is a shit story teller. I disagree. There really wasn't a story at all in TFA as it turns out. TLJ's "story" was worse than the lack of story in TFA.
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