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Post by miike80 on Mar 21, 2017 11:58:26 GMT
miike80 Did I just see woozlewuzzle accuse you of being a moderator sock? If he knew who Miike is the paranoia would be greater: we are Takashi and Takeshi, we clearly are the same person
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 12:05:07 GMT
In that case, you owe me a thousand dollars. I mean I do. I mean we do. I mean.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 21, 2017 13:03:25 GMT
The scenes between the two of them were low point for the franchise. Even Natalie Portman, who is a good actor, was terrible.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 21, 2017 13:15:04 GMT
Dhe scenes between the two of them were low point for the franchise. Even Natalie Portman, who is a good actor, was terrible. They were fine. You're just regurgitating hipster internet nonsense and/or expressing an opinion about the acting that could just as easily be applied to the acting in the original trilogy. (I will grant you that the notable exception that proves this rule would be Fisher and Ford, particularly in Empire, but now we know it's because they were smashing the whole time...) The low point for the franchise was when the cynical hacks at Disney remade Star Wars (1977) BADLY, injected a bunch of hamfisted Disney magic~* into it, retconned everything that happened in episodes I-VI and especially the ending of Return of the Jedi, killed off Han Solo in a way completely unearned and unbecoming of the character mainly to placate Harrison Ford's decades-long desire to spite fans of the Star Wars franchise and George Lucas personally, and made a shit-ton of money in the process while hordes of morons flocked to the internet henceforth to claim Disney "saved" Star Wars instead of forever turning what was the Cadillac of film franchises into just another sausage factory of McBullshit.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 21, 2017 13:39:17 GMT
Dhe scenes between the two of them were low point for the franchise. Even Natalie Portman, who is a good actor, was terrible. They were fine. You're just regurgitating hipster internet nonsense and/or expressing an opinion about the acting that could just as easily be applied to the acting in the original trilogy. (I will grant you that the notable exception that proves this rule would be Fisher and Ford, particularly in Empire, but now we know it's because they were smashing the whole time...) The low point for the franchise was when the cynical hacks at Disney remade Star Wars (1977) BADLY, injected a bunch of hamfisted Disney magic~* into it, retconned everything that happened in episodes I-VI and especially the ending of Return of the Jedi, killed off Han Solo in a way completely unearned and unbecoming of the character mainly to placate Harrison Ford's decades-long desire to spite fans of the Star Wars franchise and George Lucas personally, and made a shit-ton of money in the process while hordes of morons flocked to the internet henceforth to claim Disney "saved" Star Wars instead of forever turning what was the Cadillac of film franchises into just another sausage factory of McBullshit. I don't have the time or interest in talking to you. You are one of those weirdos who is fiercely loyal to Lucas, for whatever reason, at the expense of objectivity and common sense. Plus, anyone who thinks criticizing the original trilogy serves as a valid defense for the (terrible) acting in the prequel trilogy has merit... I mean come on. Classic deflection. It's like watching a Trump supporter trying to justify his ineptness. Be gone, child.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 21, 2017 13:42:17 GMT
They were fine. You're just regurgitating hipster internet nonsense and/or expressing an opinion about the acting that could just as easily be applied to the acting in the original trilogy. (I will grant you that the notable exception that proves this rule would be Fisher and Ford, particularly in Empire, but now we know it's because they were smashing the whole time...) The low point for the franchise was when the cynical hacks at Disney remade Star Wars (1977) BADLY, injected a bunch of hamfisted Disney magic~* into it, retconned everything that happened in episodes I-VI and especially the ending of Return of the Jedi, killed off Han Solo in a way completely unearned and unbecoming of the character mainly to placate Harrison Ford's decades-long desire to spite fans of the Star Wars franchise and George Lucas personally, and made a shit-ton of money in the process while hordes of morons flocked to the internet henceforth to claim Disney "saved" Star Wars instead of forever turning what was the Cadillac of film franchises into just another sausage factory of McBullshit. I don't have the time or interest in talking to you. You are one of those weirdos who is fiercely loyal to Lucas, for whatever reason, at the expense of objectivity and common sense. Plus, anyone who thinks criticizing the original trilogy serves as a valid defense for the (terrible) acting in the prequel trilogy has merit... I mean come on. Classic deflection. It's like watching a Trump supporter trying to justify his ineptness. Be gone, child. Your tired personal attacks notwithstanding, how is it "deflection" to point out that the scene you cited as a "low point" for the franchise is no worse than the acting at various other points in the franchise? And when did I say the acting was good in either instance? I said it was "fine," which it is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 15:13:26 GMT
I sort of agree with both of you. Acting aside though, you have to admit the dialog in the original series is better overall. kuatorises' point is well made. Those romance scenes were really awful.
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Post by Ban on Mar 21, 2017 16:24:28 GMT
Maybe the worst "Star Wars" movie, but certainly not the worst movie from the Star Wars franchise... if you understand what I'm trying to say.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 21, 2017 16:34:06 GMT
I sort of agree with both of you. Acting aside though, you have to admit the dialog in the original series is better overall. kuatorises' point is well made. Those romance scenes were really awful. They're not the strongest scenes in the prequels, for sure. I just don't think they're quite as abysmal as everyone says. They're "serviceable" to me as a fan. If anything, the cringe factor is highest the moment when they either kiss or almost kiss (can't remember which), Natalie pulls away, and the music just cuts off completely. That was unintentionally hilarious to me, and I laughed like hell all four times in the theater and prolly every time I've seen it since, but not necessarily at the performances in the scene as much as how it all fell flat in that particular instance. I think the "fireplace" scene is considerably better. As far as the dialogue overall, I would definitely admit/agree that the original trilogy dialogue is more "natural" or colloquial and therefore a lot easier on people's ears. For me, though, the prequel dialogue is just different rather than inferior. Lucas was clearly going for an affected way of speaking, particularly in The Phantom Menace, to reflect both the difference in time period and the type of people who were central characters; that is, the prequels centered on mainly diplomats, Jedi, clone soldiers, etc. -- all people who would speak with some degree of refinement and precision, whereas the original trilogy was, you know, largely about (for lack of a better word) scoundrels. It's perfectly fine as a matter of taste or subjectivity to acknowledge that the differences were intentional and still find them stilted to the point of taking you out of the experience of watching the movie because "nobody talks like that." One of Harrison Ford's chief complaints about the original Star Wars movies, especially the first one, was actually the dialogue. Smarmier critics said similar stuff about the sequels, Empire and Jedi. So "cheesy dialogue" isn't a new barb to hurl at the franchise. It's just mildly amusing that certain sects of fandom have become militant defenders of the original trilogy in this respect while attacking the prequels in the same way people did decades ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 16:43:11 GMT
Smarmy critics and a very cynical Ford though isn't the majority view.
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Post by cineastewest on Mar 21, 2017 20:29:55 GMT
At least The Force Awakens makes me laugh. Rogue one puts me to sleep.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 5:21:40 GMT
I think they all have something rewarding. The Phantom Menace pod race on the big screen was amazing. The rest of it was forgettable. The two young leads carried TFA well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 11:55:57 GMT
I didn't admit that there was only one good scene in it
Yes you did cause it's true.
Nope, but even if it were so, that would still be one more than the entire prequel trilogy. Those have no redeeming features at all. None.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 11:45:00 GMT
And according to the poll we did on the other thread, the worst one is The Phantom Menace was voted the worst Star Wars film (17 out of 36 voted it the worst). Meanwhile Rogue One, only got one vote. I wonder whose vote that was?
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Post by hi224 on Mar 26, 2017 21:36:49 GMT
Rogue ones better then the last trilogy honestly.
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Post by woozlewuzzle on Mar 31, 2017 3:12:05 GMT
You sound like a punk that can't handle the truth. Sure, I'm the one ignoring the RT score, audience score, Imdb score.. etc. it's only your troll opinion that matters. You look for validation or just some replies so you would feel important? Who cares what a bunch of millennials, neck beards, and fake Star Wars fans rate this? They don't count. This movie is trash. Get triggered.
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Post by woozlewuzzle on Mar 31, 2017 3:14:49 GMT
At least The Force Awakens makes me laugh. Rogue one puts me to sleep. rekt
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Post by miike80 on Mar 31, 2017 9:14:29 GMT
Sure, I'm the one ignoring the RT score, audience score, Imdb score.. etc. it's only your troll opinion that matters. You look for validation or just some replies so you would feel important? Who cares what a bunch of millennials, neck beards, and fake Star Wars fans rate this? They don't count. This movie is trash. Get triggered. Whatever makes you sleep better, troll
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 10:01:48 GMT
And according to the poll we did on the other thread, the worst one is The Phantom Menace was voted the worst Star Wars film (17 out of 36 voted it the worst). Meanwhile Rogue One, only got one vote. I wonder whose vote that was? Maybe it was woozlewuzzle's
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Post by woozlewuzzle on Apr 4, 2017 4:05:22 GMT
Who cares what a bunch of millennials, neck beards, and fake Star Wars fans rate this? They don't count. This movie is trash. Get triggered. Whatever makes you sleep better, troll Triggered.^
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