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Post by skribb on Dec 20, 2017 23:08:32 GMT
Fucken' Rian Johnson.
Star Wars is now cemented as a joke franchise.
Rian has clearly shown he doesn't understand the following: -Luke -Leia -Rey -Snoke -The Force -story structure -Yoda -Humor -Phasma -Finn
By extension, everyone responsible for greenlighting this script is guilty of the same flaws.
There were a bunch of cool and good things about TLJ. But too many bad ones for me to stand behind this movie.
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Post by kleinreturns on Dec 20, 2017 23:25:06 GMT
Fucken' Rian Johnson. Star Wars is now cemented as a joke franchise. Rian has clearly shown he doesn't understand the following: -Luke -Leia -Rey -Snoke -The Force -story structure -Yoda -Humor -Phasma -Finn By extension, everyone responsible for greenlighting this script is guilty of the same flaws. There were a bunch of cool and good things about TLJ. But too many bad ones for me to stand behind this movie. Well to be honest neither does Jar Jar Abrams or KK.
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Post by skribb on Dec 20, 2017 23:33:03 GMT
Well to be honest neither does Jar Jar Abrams or KK. With my next-latest paragraph I included Kennedy. JJ did not succeed with TFA IMO, but he did not fail as miserably as Rian. In any case, we are discussing TLJ here, not TFA. I'm done with TFA.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 21, 2017 10:15:16 GMT
Well to be honest neither does Jar Jar Abrams or KK. With my next-latest paragraph I included Kennedy. JJ did not succeed with TFA IMO, but he did not fail as miserably as Rian. In any case, we are discussing TLJ here, not TFA. I'm done with TFA.Fair enough, but it's unfair to TLJ to negate the big picture here: TFA sowed what TLJ reaped - mostly, silly, empty mistery boxes that had to be filled after the promise somehow.
E.g., how do you reasonably explain the selfless, brave Jedi hero Luke to (i) let the exact same massacre happen to the new Jedi Order as before and - worse! - (ii) after it happened, not to clean up the mess he created, but to let evil rise (First Order/Snoke) and to hide and pout far away on an island, but still leaving a silly treasure-map-puzzle behind...?
I'm afraid we will never be done with what TFA sowed.
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Post by skribb on Dec 21, 2017 19:09:07 GMT
With my next-latest paragraph I included Kennedy. JJ did not succeed with TFA IMO, but he did not fail as miserably as Rian. In any case, we are discussing TLJ here, not TFA. I'm done with TFA.Fair enough, but it's unfair to TLJ to negate the big picture here: TFA sowed what TLJ reaped - mostly, silly, empty mistery boxes that had to be filled after the promise somehow.
E.g., how do you reasonably explain the selfless, brave Jedi hero Luke to (i) let the exact same massacre happen to the new Jedi Order as before and - worse! - (ii) after it happened, not to clean up the mess he created, but to let evil rise (First Order/Snoke) and to hide and pout far away on an island, but still leaving a silly treasure-map-puzzle behind...?
I'm afraid we will never be done with what TFA sowed.
Path dependency is a thing
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Post by skribb on Dec 21, 2017 19:37:20 GMT
it was still tits and ass. Tits? Kylo tits, yeah. Ass? Didn't really catch a glimpse of that.
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