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Post by Surly on Dec 22, 2017 0:47:51 GMT
...for showing me the true meaning of the Force! It wasn't balance between the the Light side and the Dark side. It was wasn't millenniums of history of the Jedi and the Sith. It wasn't the Chosen One. It wasn't MaRey Sue. It wasn't the saga of the Skywalker family. It wasn't "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."
It was Carrie Poppins! The mystery is solved! Join me in the enlightenment!
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 22, 2017 3:00:46 GMT
I thought it was microorganisms in people's blood?
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 22, 2017 5:37:16 GMT
I thought it was microorganisms in people's blood? Nope. Qui-Gon Jinn: Life forms living together for mutual advantage. Without the midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to you, telling you the will of the Force. When you learn to quiet your mind, you will hear them speaking to you.From Wookipedia: A misconception exists that rather than being indicators, midi-chlorians actually are the Force or create it; there is no canonical basis for this belief.[13][14][15] ..... George Lucas, on the other hand, considers the two aspects of the Force separately, treating the midi-chlorians as the practical, biological side, distinct from the spiritual and metaphysical side of the Force.[12] starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorianBut you are always trying, I give you that, still as you should know: there is no try. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 5:46:05 GMT
I thought it was microorganisms in people's blood? Nope. Qui-Gon Jinn: Life forms living together for mutual advantage. Without the midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to you, telling you the will of the Force. When you learn to quiet your mind, you will hear them speaking to you.From Wookipedia: A misconception exists that rather than being indicators, midi-chlorians actually are the Force or create it; there is no canonical basis for this belief.[13][14][15] ..... George Lucas, on the other hand, considers the two aspects of the Force separately, treating the midi-chlorians as the practical, biological side, distinct from the spiritual and metaphysical side of the Force.[12] starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorianBut you are always trying, I give you that, still as you should know: there is no try. Preach. This is exactly why I tell people there was no evolution of the Force between the OT and the PT. Like many of his themes, the midi-chlorian idea is allegorical. "There's power in the blood" and all that. |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 22, 2017 8:02:49 GMT
I thought it was microorganisms in people's blood? Nope. Qui-Gon Jinn: Life forms living together for mutual advantage. Without the midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to you, telling you the will of the Force. When you learn to quiet your mind, you will hear them speaking to you.From Wookipedia: A misconception exists that rather than being indicators, midi-chlorians actually are the Force or create it; there is no canonical basis for this belief.[13][14][15] ..... George Lucas, on the other hand, considers the two aspects of the Force separately, treating the midi-chlorians as the practical, biological side, distinct from the spiritual and metaphysical side of the Force.[12] starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorianBut you are always trying, I give you that, still as you should know: there is no try. That's bullshit and a Retcon. They screwd up just like they did with Jar JAr Binks. (We will never mention that ever again!!!!) |
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 22, 2017 8:16:20 GMT
Nope. Qui-Gon Jinn: Life forms living together for mutual advantage. Without the midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to you, telling you the will of the Force. When you learn to quiet your mind, you will hear them speaking to you.From Wookipedia: A misconception exists that rather than being indicators, midi-chlorians actually are the Force or create it; there is no canonical basis for this belief.[13][14][15] ..... George Lucas, on the other hand, considers the two aspects of the Force separately, treating the midi-chlorians as the practical, biological side, distinct from the spiritual and metaphysical side of the Force.[12] starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorianBut you are always trying, I give you that, still as you should know: there is no try. They screwd up just like they did with Jar JAr Binks. (We will never mention that ever again!!!!) Uhh, no. Actually it isn't. |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 22, 2017 8:23:14 GMT
That's bullshit and a Retcon. They screwd up just like they did with Jar JAr Binks. (We will never mention that ever again!!!!) Uhh, no. Actually it isn't. UUUUh yes it is... It was explained that way because of the backlash of the fans. Separate my ass! George Lucas had to explain in a manner that the fans would swallow it like they always do. I DID. But it's still proper and utter BULLSHIT! |
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 22, 2017 8:30:09 GMT
Uhh, no. Actually it isn't. UUUUh yes it is... It was explained that way because of the backlash of the fans. Separate my ass! George Lucas had to explain in a manner that the fans would swallow it like they always do. I DID. But it's still proper and utter BULLSHIT! Wrong! Rather was explained because some fans misunderstood it. There's nothing in that conversation that QuiGon had with Anakin that says the midichlorians are the Force. You, like some fans, mistook it to mean that. |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 22, 2017 8:41:14 GMT
UUUUh yes it is... It was explained that way because of the backlash of the fans. Separate my ass! George Lucas had to explain in a manner that the fans would swallow it like they always do. I DID. But it's still proper and utter BULLSHIT! Wrong! Rather was explained because some fans misunderstood it. There's nothing in that conversation that QuiGon had with Anakin that says the midichlorians are the Force. You, like some fans, mistook it to mean that. No i Undestood they were a vessel from the beginning, don't worry. I never thaught they were actually the force. Just a Bullshit excuse to some people to have it and some don't. And it is bullshit. I guess it's true that some fans eat this shit up without question. "Georgie said that!" Georgie tried to save face that's it. But like i said even if it's Bullcrap i ate that shit up as not to ruin the rest of the saga. It must be a great coincidence that they are never mentioned again for the rest of the fucking saga. Nothing, ever again. Bullshit! Oh i guess they neeeeever thought of experimenting further with the so called force symbiotes, i don't know to create stronger force users NOOOOO. Bulshit! |
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 22, 2017 8:44:15 GMT
Wrong! Rather was explained because some fans misunderstood it. There's nothing in that conversation that QuiGon had with Anakin that says the midichlorians are the Force. You, like some fans, mistook it to mean that. No i Undestood they were a vessel from the beginning, don't worry. I never thaught they were actually the force. Just a Bullshit excuse to some people to have it and some don't. And it is bullshit. I guess it's true that some fans eat this shit up without question. "Georgie said that!" Georgie tried to save face that's it. But like i said even if it's Bullcrap i ate that shit up as not to ruin the rest of the saga. It must be a great coincidence that they are never mentioned again for the rest of the fucking saga. Nothing, ever again. Bullshit! So why is it BS (according to you)? |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 22, 2017 9:04:19 GMT
No i Undestood they were a vessel from the beginning, don't worry. I never thaught they were actually the force. Just a Bullshit excuse to some people to have it and some don't. And it is bullshit. I guess it's true that some fans eat this shit up without question. "Georgie said that!" Georgie tried to save face that's it. But like i said even if it's Bullcrap i ate that shit up as not to ruin the rest of the saga. It must be a great coincidence that they are never mentioned again for the rest of the fucking saga. Nothing, ever again. Bullshit! So why is it BS (according to you)? Because George Lucas tried to explain the force in a way no one liked, but it was already in the movies. He thought let's give it a scientific explanation, and when it backlashed, whell here it is a bullshit explanation out of my ass. It ruined the mystical part of the force. "I feel jesus inside me, but that's because i have a simbiote inside me, so that's ok" Good thing he course corrected in future installments until another bulshit explanation. A galaxy with hyperdrives, prosthetic limbs, clones, medicine beyond imagination, they even know whayt makes a person feel the force, and it's never used, again. At least in the other bulshit scene of ROTS, where PAdme "dies of a broken heart" HAHAHA I can't even right this with a straight face, they could inject her with some magical force symbiotes to saver her life, or try? Fuck, if they actually said in ROTS, these kids have a midi clorian count that is of the charts, but fucking nothing until today. Look, theres bulshit all around in SW, and we accept it, that's fine. Some lame ass explanation serves as a consolation so we can enjoy the rest of the story without thinking too much about the inconsistencies, nothing wrong about that. For me, it works like this, that's bullshit, but ok, i'll buy it, what happens next? If you want to linger in the explanations that's fine, but don't try to indoctrinate me with some lame ass explanation no one asked or wanted. |
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 22, 2017 9:20:38 GMT
So why is it BS (according to you)? Because George Lucas tried to explain the force in a way no one liked, but it was already in the movies. He thought let's give it a scientific explanation, and when it backlashed, whell here it is a bullshit explanation out of my ass. It ruined the mystical part of the force. "I feel jesus inside me, but that's because i have a simbiote inside me, so that's ok" Good thing he course corrected in future installments until another bulshit explanation. A galaxy with hyperdrives, prosthetic limbs, clones, medicine beyond imagination, they even know whayt makes a person feel the force, and it's never used, again. At least in the other bulshit scene of ROTS, where PAdme "dies of a broken heart" HAHAHA I can't even right this with a straight face, they could inject her with some magical force symbiotes to saver her life, or try? Fuck, if they actually said in ROTS, these kids have a midi clorian count that is of the charts, but fucking nothing until today. Look, theres bulshit all around in SW, and we accept it, that's fine. Some lame ass explanation serves as a consolation so we can enjoy the rest of the story without thinking too much about the inconsistencies, nothing wrong about that. For me, it works like this, that's bullshit, but ok, i'll buy it, what happens next? I don't agree. First off, who says midichlorians are transferable? That's an assumption on your part. You draw the conclusion that it ruined the mystical part of the Force because you didn't like it. It doesn't. It was still a mystical power in the PT as it has been in all the trilogies. On the contrary, midichlorians actually enhanced it. Midichlorians were a means of measuring Force potential. They were a means of explaining why some people could not become Force users. And they served as channelers of the Force. Similarly to the way conductors channel the force of electricity. But whining fans freaked out because they interpreted it as ruining the mystical properties of the Force. Oh, and as far as the "dying of a broken heart" thing with Padmé: google Debbie Fisher (Carrie Fisher's mother). Then google Doug Flutie's parents. |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 22, 2017 9:22:15 GMT
Because George Lucas tried to explain the force in a way no one liked, but it was already in the movies. He thought let's give it a scientific explanation, and when it backlashed, whell here it is a bullshit explanation out of my ass. It ruined the mystical part of the force. "I feel jesus inside me, but that's because i have a simbiote inside me, so that's ok" Good thing he course corrected in future installments until another bulshit explanation. A galaxy with hyperdrives, prosthetic limbs, clones, medicine beyond imagination, they even know whayt makes a person feel the force, and it's never used, again. At least in the other bulshit scene of ROTS, where PAdme "dies of a broken heart" HAHAHA I can't even right this with a straight face, they could inject her with some magical force symbiotes to saver her life, or try? Fuck, if they actually said in ROTS, these kids have a midi clorian count that is of the charts, but fucking nothing until today. Look, theres bulshit all around in SW, and we accept it, that's fine. Some lame ass explanation serves as a consolation so we can enjoy the rest of the story without thinking too much about the inconsistencies, nothing wrong about that. For me, it works like this, that's bullshit, but ok, i'll buy it, what happens next? I don't agree. First off, who says midichlorians are transferable? That's an assumption on your part. You draw the conclusion that it ruined the mystical part of the Force because you didn't like it. It doesn't. It was still a mystical power in the PT as it has been in all the trilogies. On the contrary, midichlorians actually enhanced it. Midichlorians were a means of measuring Force potential. They were a means of explaining why some people could not become Force users. And they served as channelers of the Force. Similarly to the way conductors channel the force of electricity. But whining fans freaked out because they interpreted as ruining the mystical properties of the Force. Oh, and as far as the "dying of a broken heart"thing with Padmé: google Debbie Fisher (Carrie Fisher's mother. Then google Doug Flutie's parents. Whatever you say bulshit eater. |
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 22, 2017 9:23:45 GMT
I don't agree. First off, who says midichlorians are transferable? That's an assumption on your part. You draw the conclusion that it ruined the mystical part of the Force because you didn't like it. It doesn't. It was still a mystical power in the PT as it has been in all the trilogies. On the contrary, midichlorians actually enhanced it. Midichlorians were a means of measuring Force potential. They were a means of explaining why some people could not become Force users. And they served as channelers of the Force. Similarly to the way conductors channel the force of electricity. But whining fans freaked out because they interpreted as ruining the mystical properties of the Force. Oh, and as far as the "dying of a broken heart"thing with Padmé: google Debbie Fisher (Carrie Fisher's mother. Then google Doug Flutie's parents. Whatever you say bulshit eater. Like the BS you eat on Mary Poppins Leia!?! LOL! The pot calling the kettle black. |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 22, 2017 9:24:54 GMT
Whatever you say bulshit eater. Like the BS you eat on Mary Poppins Leia!?! LOL! The pot calling the kettle black. Exactly like that. |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 22, 2017 9:27:19 GMT
Wrong! Rather was explained because some fans misunderstood it. There's nothing in that conversation that QuiGon had with Anakin that says the midichlorians are the Force. You, like some fans, mistook it to mean that. No i Undestood they were a vessel from the beginning, don't worry. I never thaught they were actually the force. Just a Bullshit excuse to some people to have it and some don't. And it is bullshit. I guess it's true that some fans eat this shit up without question. "Georgie said that!" Georgie tried to save face that's it. But like i said even if it's Bullcrap i ate that shit up as not to ruin the rest of the saga. It must be a great coincidence that they are never mentioned again for the rest of the fucking saga. Nothing, ever again. Bullshit!Oh i guess they neeeeever thought of experimenting further with the so called force symbiotes, i don't know to create stronger force users NOOOOO. Bulshit! Lol. I have no idea why you get so drama queen-ish over that old subject, but the anger clouds your judgement. I guess the reaction by some when they first heard that diseases are caused by lowly microscopic bateria and not by divine intervention must have been similar.
Anyway, Midichlorians were of course mentioned again at a pivotal moment: In the opera scene (inarguably one of the best scene in the Saga if not in SciFi fantasy).
"Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create...life." thus suggesting Anakin might have been fathered this way.
Also, Midi Chlorians allegedly were an early concept long predating the prequels; and George Lucas as the creator is perfectly withing his Dramatic License to add concept as long as they do not violate the underlying lore.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 22, 2017 9:29:03 GMT
Like the BS you eat on Mary Poppins Leia!?! LOL! The pot calling the kettle black. Exactly like that. And yet you argued that BS like your life depended on it. |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 22, 2017 9:32:24 GMT
And yet you argued that BS like your life depended on it. Everybody has some kind of bullshit to defend. Also it seems it was mentioned again in ROTS, so i guess i was wrong. It's not bullshit. I apologize. Happy? |
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 22, 2017 9:35:22 GMT
And yet you argued that BS like your life depended on it. Everybody has some kind of bullshit to defend. Also it seems it was mentioned again in ROTS, so i guess i was wrong. It's not bullshit. I apologize. Happy? I accept your apology. ;-) |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 22, 2017 9:42:07 GMT
Everybody has some kind of bullshit to defend. Also it seems it was mentioned again in ROTS, so i guess i was wrong. It's not bullshit. I apologize. Happy? I accept your apology. ;-) Sarcasm goes over your head right? Edit: guess not, didn't see the wink. I apologize. Sincere this time. |
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