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Post by Gubbio on Feb 7, 2017 18:08:08 GMT
DISCUSS PSYCHO
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Psycho (1960)
Shamley Productions
Anthony Perkins ... Norman Bates
Vera Miles ... Lila Crane
John Gavin ... Sam Loomis
Janet Leigh ... Marion Crane
Martin Balsam ... Det. Milton Arbogast
John McIntire ... Sheriff Al Chambers
Simon Oakland ... Dr. Fred Richman
Frank Albertson ... Tom Cassidy
Patricia Hitchcock ... Caroline (as Pat Hitchcock)
Vaughn Taylor ... George Lowery
Lurene Tuttle ... Mrs. Chambers
John Anderson ... California Charlie
Mort Mills ... Highway Patrol Officer
StorylinePhoenix officeworker Marion Crane is fed up with the way life has treated her. She has to meet her lover Sam in lunch breaks and they cannot get married because Sam has to give most of his money away in alimony. One Friday Marion is trusted to bank $40,000 by her employer. Seeing the opportunity to take the money and start a new life, Marion leaves town and heads towards Sam's California store. Tired after the long drive and caught in a storm, she gets off the main highway and pulls into The Bates Motel. The motel is managed by a quiet young man called Norman who seems to be dominated by his mother. _____________________________________________________________________________
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Post by swanstep on Feb 8, 2017 12:41:52 GMT
OK, I am here.
A single thread on a Classic Films board isn't going to be good solution for the long haul, and who knows whether IMDb 2.0 will even look like the best temporary solution by the end of the week. But thanks to Gubbio for putting down this marker and, changing metaphor, for getting at least one ball rolling.
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Post by Gubbio on Feb 8, 2017 15:55:54 GMT
OK, I am here. A single thread on a Classic Films board isn't going to be good solution for the long haul, and who knows whether IMDb 2.0 will even look like the best temporary solution by the end of the week. But thanks to Gubbio for putting down this marker and, changing metaphor, for getting at least one ball rolling. I see the drawbacks here and am also concerned. But right now, this is better than nothing. We're being evicted and have little choice. There are a lot of boards being touted and a lot of opinions on which is "best." But I, for one, am not up to trying them all out.If someone finds something better, we can always migrate -- like one of Norman's birds !   |
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Post by Pangolin on Feb 8, 2017 18:09:53 GMT
What I don't like is the Freudian psycho babble near the end of the movie.
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Post by ecarle on Feb 9, 2017 2:37:59 GMT
I'm already digging on the fact that The Greatest Logo in Film History...and my second favorite shot of the Bates Mansion in the movie...and Norman's chilling gaze...have anchored this board.
At a minimum, it seems to be a place to "plot the next move" when imdb proper moves away.
Its like being on the Titanic, in some ways...we just keep running to another part of the ship "above water." But here's to staying afloat.
Ecarle
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Post by phillipsdan83 on Feb 9, 2017 4:48:58 GMT
Here's another member of the old board checking in. Hopefully this'll do as a substitute for the original board.
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Post by telegonus on Feb 9, 2017 9:10:35 GMT
I actually like the Freudian psycho-babble, very much a time capsule of the movie's day. The actor who delivered it, Simon Oakland, did a masterful job of delivering. I find his performance hypnotic. So did the director apparently, as when the scene was finished Mr. Hitchcock walked over to Oakland, shook his hand and said "thank you, you just saved my movie" (or words to that effect).
But yes, a lot of people are divided where that scene is concerned.
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Post by Gubbio on Feb 9, 2017 13:43:15 GMT
I'm already digging on the fact that The Greatest Logo in Film History...and my second favorite shot of the Bates Mansion in the movie...and Norman's chilling gaze...have anchored this board. At a minimum, it seems to be a place to "plot the next move" when imdb proper moves away. Its like being on the Titanic, in some ways...we just keep running to another part of the ship "above water." But here's to staying afloat. Ecarle Hey, EC !! Glad you like the art work. I did it with YOU in mind! I like the fact that we can LINK images and YouTube here. There are a lot of other choices out there, but we could "All Go A Little Mad," trying them all out. |
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 9, 2017 14:58:36 GMT
I actually like the Freudian psycho-babble, very much a time capsule of the movie's day. The actor who delivered it, Simon Oakland, did a masterful job of delivering. I find his performance hypnotic. So did the director apparently, as when the scene was finished Mr. Hitchcock walked over to Oakland, shook his hand and said "thank you, you just saved my movie" (or words to that effect). But yes, a lot of people are divided where that scene is concerned. Loved seeing Ted Baxter as a security cop! |
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 9, 2017 15:00:10 GMT
I was an another board a few years back, and they had clips of a longer edit of Psycho. What I remember seeing is more stabs when Arboghast is killed, a longer shot of Janet Leigh undressing for the shower (I do believe they showed her bare back), and more shots of the bloody bathroom afterward!
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Post by Mr_K_Pratt on Feb 9, 2017 17:53:53 GMT
I was an another board a few years back, and they had clips of a longer edit of Psycho. What I remember seeing is more stabs when Arboghast is killed, a longer shot of Janet Leigh undressing for the shower (I do believe they showed her bare back), and more shots of the bloody bathroom afterward! Yeah, I saw that version on ITV in the UK years ago, it's the German print. I was going to look for a website that had these uncut scenes, but instead found this handy video with comparison shots of both versions. |
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 9, 2017 18:50:49 GMT
Wow, fascinating stuff! Thanks for posting that. I'm amazed I could remember the differences so well.
One thing that I did notice while watching your link--in both versions when Norman washes his hands, after he shuts off the faucet, there's a very distinct drop of blood beneath it. Surprised Lila never found that!
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Post by Mr_K_Pratt on Feb 9, 2017 19:55:27 GMT
Wow, fascinating stuff! Thanks for posting that. I'm amazed I could remember the differences so well. One thing that I did notice while watching your link--in both versions when Norman washes his hands, after he shuts off the faucet, there's a very distinct drop of blood beneath it. Surprised Lila never found that! Ever since I saw that version, the peeping scene always bugged me when I watched it on DVD as you can hear the music jump when it cuts back to Norman after cutting Marion's undressing. The first time I mentioned the uncut version on the IMDb message boards back in the early 2000's, I basically got called a liar, so I'm glad the evidence is now there for all to see!  |
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 9, 2017 20:56:44 GMT
I thought it was great, and I appreciate your posting it. Really kinda surprised as the goriness of the bathroom scene!
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Post by Gubbio on Feb 10, 2017 0:15:26 GMT
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Post by ecarle on Feb 19, 2017 23:40:53 GMT
I'm having some trouble making this page work for me, Gubbio.
Bear with me.
I seem to be "replying up top" to your post far below here...but maybe when this posts it will be nearby.
Anyway:
Your various photos thus far do offer some of the best visual material we have out there for Psycho.
The Greatest Logo, etc The "crystal clear" shot of the house and mom in the window (Arbogast's POV) The "building sized marquee" for the NYC debut of Psycho in June, 1960 The famous promotional photo of the house with Tony Perkins "in shadowy Frankenstein's monster silohette"
And indeed, if you were to find one more promotional photo -- Tony Perkins with one hand over his mouth and one hand palm outward, fingers splayed...
...you could combine (1) The logo; (2) the silhouette photo and (3) Tony with hand over mouth into...
...the 1967 TV debut billboard for Psycho's LA debut. These three elements were mashed together into one very spooky "poster" that was used for newspaper ads, TV guide ads, and giant billboards all across LA promoting Psycho's November 1967 late night debut on KABC -7.
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Post by Gubbio on Feb 19, 2017 23:56:37 GMT
The "crystal clear" shot of the house and mom in the window (Arbogast's POV) Hello EC, The first photo of the house that I found was smaller. I replaced it with the current one. Is this the photo of Tony that you are referring to? _NRFPT_03.jpg) A boy's best friend is his Mother.....
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Post by alexhurricanehiggins on Feb 20, 2017 13:49:15 GMT
Great movie.
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Post by snsurone on Feb 20, 2017 15:28:34 GMT
I'll never forget the first time I saw this movie--I was in college and it was the first time it was aired on TV.
A set was in one of my dorm's "suites", and girls gathered around it.
Even those who were just passing through sat down on the floor to watch.
SPOILER ALERT:
The murder of Marian Crane wasn't so shocking, because by that time, we knew what to expect.
No, the really scary scene was when Lila turned around "Mrs. Bates", which revealed the skull wearing a wig.
I remember letting out a gasp and other girls screaming!
That scene, with its Bernard Hermann sound effects, was the real heart-stopper!
One thing I always wondered: did Lila and Sam eventually forgive Norman for his acts?
After all, he WAS insane.
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 20, 2017 16:01:05 GMT
Watch Psycho II, and you'll discover whether Lila forgave Norman.
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