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Post by NewtJorden on Dec 28, 2017 22:40:13 GMT
Maybe its true, but i tend not to belive anything i see on Screen Rant.
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Post by medjay on Dec 28, 2017 22:48:25 GMT
I enjoyed the last one but i am okay with this ending.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 28, 2017 22:57:48 GMT
Just kidding. Serves Sir Ridley right for killing Blomkamp's cool sounding Aliens sequel.
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Post by Archelaus on Dec 29, 2017 0:32:17 GMT
I'm going to wait until sources like Variety or The Hollywood Reporter confirm it's official. I find it difficult to believe a high-profile sequel would be quietly cancelled without fanfare.
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Post by kleinreturns on Dec 29, 2017 2:23:02 GMT
I'm sorry I saw no where in that link it had anything to do with Disney. Truthfully I don't see why Didney wouldn't want to continue making more Alien movies. They know it's a successful franchise. The last good entry into this series was Aliens. Back in 1986. Sad but very true. Every movie sequel/prequel following Aliens keeps getting worse than the one before.
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Post by ravi02 on Dec 29, 2017 19:46:17 GMT
I liked Michael Fassbinder in these films; he just needed better material around him.
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Post by bluerisk on Dec 31, 2017 17:54:32 GMT
Covenant was way too bad to deserve a second chance. I hope Scott's career is over. But most likely it is not...
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Post by politicidal on Dec 31, 2017 17:59:23 GMT
I'm going to wait until sources like Variety or The Hollywood Reporter confirm it's official. I find it difficult to believe a high-profile sequel would be quietly cancelled without fanfare. Well, Universal cancelled the whole 'Dark Universe' franchise after The Mummy bombed and no one cared.
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Post by bluerisk on Dec 31, 2017 18:00:57 GMT
Looks like it could be getting replaced with 'Alien 5' with the return of Ripley and on Studio 10 when Disney bought Fox they were talking about rebooting the entire franchise with a new actress playing Ripley. I never saw the other movies as proper 'Alien' movies without Ripley and while I am not saying they were bad Ripley is 'Alien' to me and making movies without her is like doing 'Die Hard' movies without John McClane. Time to bring back the star!! Was the issue really about Ripley not being there or the fact they simply couldn't find a way to make another strong female lead? Like others said, the last 2 movies were filled with idiots and alien fodder. That's one difference in the crew but the biggest difference is that Ripley made rational and common sense decision, it's just that it wasn't always her call (like getting John Hurt on board)or things didn't go as expected but her judgment was always sound. Prometheus and Alien Covenant issues could be summarize with one scene from the movie Life (2017, www.imdb.com/title/tt5442430/?ref_=nv_sr_2 )* small spoiler if you haven't seen it (don't waste your time and money if you haven't)*: At some point only half the crew survived and they discuss how to deal with the creature. One guy suggest that they remotely control the doors to isolate it, starve it to death then separate the section from the space station and send it into deep space . Problem is, the leader is actually saying "no,no,no..." then one guy suggest splitting up and chasing the bastard around and she points at him and goes "yes"! That's pretty much how everything happened in Prometheus and Alien Covenant. They have to make though calls but it's always the "let's-dive-straight-into-the-puddle-of-shit-and-see-what-happens-after-were-neck-deep-into-it" mentality over the "play-safe-hoping-things-will-go-our-way" mentality that is ridiculous and tiring. I could live with the crew stupidity in Prometheus: For such a low profile mission (the crew didn't know what the actual mission was) that takes five of your best career years, you only get the people who weren't not good enough for a top careers, or people who know the job but have other issue (social behaviour etc.) that prevented them of having a proper career on Earth. But the Convenant crew was selected and with a clear mission.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 31, 2017 19:26:39 GMT
Was the issue really about Ripley not being there or the fact they simply couldn't find a way to make another strong female lead? Like others said, the last 2 movies were filled with idiots and alien fodder. That's one difference in the crew but the biggest difference is that Ripley made rational and common sense decision, it's just that it wasn't always her call (like getting John Hurt on board)or things didn't go as expected but her judgment was always sound. Prometheus and Alien Covenant issues could be summarize with one scene from the movie Life (2017, www.imdb.com/title/tt5442430/?ref_=nv_sr_2 )* small spoiler if you haven't seen it (don't waste your time and money if you haven't)*: At some point only half the crew survived and they discuss how to deal with the creature. One guy suggest that they remotely control the doors to isolate it, starve it to death then separate the section from the space station and send it into deep space . Problem is, the leader is actually saying "no,no,no..." then one guy suggest splitting up and chasing the bastard around and she points at him and goes "yes"! That's pretty much how everything happened in Prometheus and Alien Covenant. They have to make though calls but it's always the "let's-dive-straight-into-the-puddle-of-shit-and-see-what-happens-after-were-neck-deep-into-it" mentality over the "play-safe-hoping-things-will-go-our-way" mentality that is ridiculous and tiring. I could live with the crew stupidity in Prometheus: For such a low profile mission (the crew didn't know what the actual mission was) that takes five of your best career years, you only get the people who weren't not good enough for a top careers, or people who know the job but have other issue (social behaviour etc.) that prevented them of having a proper career on Earth.But the Convenant crew was selected and with a clear mission. Though I always felt the point in both movies is that human beings are idiots who make bad decisions and that we are slowly becoming obsolete. David's whole story in Covenant has to do with him thinking humans don't deserve a place in the world anymore exactly because we are idiots. Prometheus is basically laughing in our faces that we still believe in God. It's also the same with The Counselor. A movie that is basically saying we are doomed selfish idiots.
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Post by Archelaus on Dec 31, 2017 19:46:49 GMT
I'm going to wait until sources like Variety or The Hollywood Reporter confirm it's official. I find it difficult to believe a high-profile sequel would be quietly cancelled without fanfare. Well, Universal cancelled the whole 'Dark Universe' franchise after The Mummy bombed and no one cared. You're comparing apples and oranges. The Mummy and what was to come of the Dark Universe lacked a fanbase. The Alien franchise does have a fanbase. If the Covenant sequel is in fact cancelled, I think there will be a mixed feeling.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 31, 2017 20:28:23 GMT
Well, Universal cancelled the whole 'Dark Universe' franchise after The Mummy bombed and no one cared. You're comparing apples and oranges. The Mummy and what was to come of the Dark Universe lacked a fanbase. The Alien franchise does have a fanbase. If the Covenant sequel is in fact cancelled, I think there will be a mixed feeling. It's too bad such little thought went into that movie. I think the Dark Universe was doomed from the start because they seemed to want to go in the blockbuster direction. There is no reason these movies need to have huge budgets.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 1, 2018 15:29:46 GMT
Beh, to be honest I haven't enjoyed the Alien movies since Alien 3 (flawed, but it was enjoyable). Prometheus just didn't do it for me so I never saw Covenant.
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Post by spooner5020 on Jan 1, 2018 20:22:11 GMT
So am I gonna get an answer on how this is Disney's fault? Covenant was just a bad movie and I don't know how well it did box office wise,but probably not too well. Prometheus probably left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
If Disney really wants to continue the Alien franchise,there is nothing stopping them.
Also I'm sure people thought once Disney bought Lucasarts that they wouldn't make Star Wars movies. Well guess what they did. 3 in the past years with another coming out this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 11:13:53 GMT
Looks like it could be getting replaced with 'Alien 5' with the return of Ripley and on Studio 10 when Disney bought Fox they were talking about rebooting the entire franchise with a new actress playing Ripley. I never saw the other movies as proper 'Alien' movies without Ripley and while I am not saying they were bad Ripley is 'Alien' to me and making movies without her is like doing 'Die Hard' movies without John McClane. Time to bring back the star!! Was the issue really about Ripley not being there or the fact they simply couldn't find a way to make another strong female lead? For me it is definitely an issue of the lack of Ripley. Sigourney Weaver was the main star of the first 4 Alien movies and writing her character out of the movies was like making 'A Nightmare On Elm Street' movie without Freddy Kreuger, a 'Child's Play' movie without Chucky, a 'Psycho' movie without Norman Bates or an 'Evil Dead' movie without Ash and I think 'Alien vs Predator' would have been better if they had got Sigourney Weaver and Arnold Schwarzenegger for it.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 2, 2018 16:37:31 GMT
1. The article says reportedly. Your title is quite definitive. Did you write it that way so people would click on your thread? 2. Disney?
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 2, 2018 16:43:07 GMT
Terrible news. Covenant had such a big cliffhanger ending. It's a shame we won't have a conclusion now. I'm one of few that actually liked Covenant, and was looking forward to this.I liked it too. I thought it was a lot better than Prometheus.
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